Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-30 Thread Greg Stein
Yeah... kind of hard for me to vote while I was on vacation last week. Didn't happen, but that is not a problem. As Justin notes, our job is to *mentor* ... that doesn't mean we are obligated to vote. Voting on a release implies a large commitment to downloading the tarball, building, deploying,

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-30 Thread Myrle Krantz
As a podling member, who's been observing here for a couple of months I have a question here: What are the principles the incubator uses to decide whether or not to accept a podling? I know there are a few questions that all podlings have to answer when creating their proposal, but I haven't

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1

2016-05-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I'm still interested in figuring out how to build this thing The easiest way to to compile the newt package (by tuning build.sh) first and then use the produced “newt” binary to compile the blinky project via instructions in the read me. > - You're trying to release "Apache Mynewt" but

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote: >> I just want to clarify here on the thread —- while I think in general there >> may be problems with too many podlings/inactive

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
I will admit to being somewhat of a quiet mentor for Mynewt, particularly with respect to vetting releases. I have been monitoring the community and signing off on reports. I've often seen more experienced mentors vote on releases, and held back on voting based on trust in them. I'll try to do

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote: > I just want to clarify here on the thread —- while I think in general there > may be problems with too many podlings/inactive mentors, that is not an > issue we often face. Justin Mclean has voted on so many releases

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > as always, snapshots in time is not as useful as trending data over time. I > guess it is time to take a look at whimsy.. :-) http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html Justin - To unsubscribe,

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 05/28/2016 05:31 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > And where is the sources for that? https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/ With regards, Daniel. > > On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > >> On 05/28/2016 05:25 AM, Niclas Hedhman

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
And where is the sources for that? On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 05/28/2016 05:25 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > Thanks Justin, > > as always, snapshots in time is not as useful as trending data over > time. I > > guess it is time to take a look

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 05/28/2016 05:25 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Thanks Justin, > as always, snapshots in time is not as useful as trending data over time. I > guess it is time to take a look at whimsy.. :-) Or projects.apache.org :) Since there's already an incubator chart there - should be easy to add another

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Thanks Justin, as always, snapshots in time is not as useful as trending data over time. I guess it is time to take a look at whimsy.. :-) Cheers On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > An additional graph that would be super-interesting to

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > An additional graph that would be super-interesting to get is "Months in > Incubation" for the current podlings, plotted over time. Some of the data can be found here [1] (column B) Thanks, Justin 1. http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1

2016-05-27 Thread Sterling Hughes
Hey John, I think the VOTE should be recalled based upon looking at newt. I’ll admit — all my testing was on the git tags for the release, and not the tarballs themselves. As a FYI, what happened is that only the newt directory got released in newt tarball instead of the TLD:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1

2016-05-27 Thread John D. Ament
I'm still interested in figuring out how to build this thing, however I feel that I need to vote -1 on the release on the following grounds: - You're trying to release "Apache Mynewt" but not a single one of these packages says "Mynewt" on them. Even the generated binary says "newt" and not

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Sterling Hughes
I just want to clarify here on the thread —- while I think in general there may be problems with too many podlings/inactive mentors, that is not an issue we often face. It is simply that this release came at a time when some of our mentors were busy, and we want to get a release out the door—

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:05 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > I can agree that there's an issue with the overall number of podlings > around. However, I don't agree with telling a podling that the IPMC isn't > going to look at your vote and that your mentors should do that.

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread John D. Ament
I can agree that there's an issue with the overall number of podlings around. However, I don't agree with telling a podling that the IPMC isn't going to look at your vote and that your mentors should do that. The funny thing though, MyNewt has more than the recommended 3 mentors, yet this is

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1

2016-05-27 Thread John D. Ament
Hi Christopher, I'm happy to take a look at the release. Its probably a bit hard since it seems like its not buildable. Your instructions seem to be "newt test all" When I run that I get Johns-MBP-2:apache-newt-0.9.0-incubating johnament$ newt test go -bash: newt: command not found I'm

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > I respectfully disagree... One of the main reasons we went from 1 to 3 > recommended mentors, way back in the days, was that those 3 would be the > primary people to ping for binding votes, without limiting the rest of

Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
I respectfully disagree... One of the main reasons we went from 1 to 3 recommended mentors, way back in the days, was that those 3 would be the primary people to ping for binding votes, without limiting the rest of the IPMC to do so. If that is no longer the consensus, then we need to look at the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1

2016-05-27 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I think you need to ping your mentors, and if they are not able, then I > think you need to raise this as an issue with the Incubator PMC, either in > separate thread or put it in the report for next month. AFAIK it's not the responsibility of the mentors to vote, it's the responsibility

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1

2016-05-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
I think you need to ping your mentors, and if they are not able, then I think you need to raise this as an issue with the Incubator PMC, either in separate thread or put it in the report for next month. I am not on the PMC, and can't help at this point. Niclas On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 7:18 AM,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1

2016-05-27 Thread Sterling Hughes
Hi, It’s been 5 days since the start of the vote thread — we’re waiting on 2 more votes +1 — already passed podling PMC. Can folks jump in? Thanks, Sterling On 25 May 2016, at 7:58, Sterling Hughes wrote: Hi All, Trying to get this out, we have one +1 binding vote on general@ (from me),

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1

2016-05-25 Thread Sterling Hughes
Hi All, Trying to get this out, we have one +1 binding vote on general@ (from me), and need _2_ more votes. The release has passed the podling PMC unanimously -- please help us get this out, as we're approaching the end of the vote window (we may be past it.) This is the 4th release we're

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1

2016-05-24 Thread Christopher Collins
Hello all, I would like to make an open request to the PMC community: if you have the time, could you please take a look at this release candidate and cast a vote? This release contains some critical bug fixes, so we would like to release it if possible. I can tell from all the traffic that

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1

2016-05-22 Thread Sterling Hughes
+1 binding carries over mynewt dev list Ship it! > On May 22, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Christopher Collins wrote: > > Hello, > > The Apache Mynewt Incubator PPMC has approved a proposal to release > Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating. We now kindly request that the Incubator >

[VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1

2016-05-22 Thread Christopher Collins
Hello, The Apache Mynewt Incubator PPMC has approved a proposal to release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating. We now kindly request that the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this incubator release. Apache Mynewt is a community-driven, permissively licensed open source initiative for