Re: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/17/01 11:48 PM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Put your project on SourceForget.net. There is another project there that is > | now hugely successful that we also rejected here and which I hosted for a > | number of years on my own dime, the Jboss project. Hope is not lost.

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Ceki Gülcü
You should remove the last paragraph, otherwise +1. At 21:31 17.10.2001 -0700, you wrote: >Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not linked >it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 votes >from the PMC. > >

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 08:48 18.10.2001 +0200, you wrote: >| Put your project on SourceForget.net. There is another project there that is >| now hugely successful that we also rejected here and which I hosted for a >| number of years on my own dime, the Jboss project. Hope is not lost. > >So you (Jakarta) rejected J

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/18/01 12:41 AM, "Ceki Gülcü" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should remove the last paragraph, otherwise +1. Done. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/18/01 12:18 AM, "Ranjit Mathew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's sadder still, Jon, that you quote Paul almost > verbatim in your document "New Project Proposals" > (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html) and #1. It is a quote made in a public forum. #2. I also used a quote from

RE: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Title: RE: ASPizer Hi Paul! > -Mensaje original- > De: Paul Ilechko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Enviado el: jueves 18 de octubre de 2001 0:43 > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Asunto: RE: ASPizer > > How can you commit to backing a project over the long term > if your company > > can't

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Sam Ruby
Jon Stevens wrote: > > Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not linked > it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 votes > from the PMC. > > > > I will accept any patches against this docum

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
> Jon Stevens wrote: > > > > Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not > linked > > it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 > votes > > from the PMC. > > > > > > > > I will accept any pat

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread Daniel Rall
"Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > IMHO, the commitment from your company is not enough. The company might go > under, or shift strategy, or find the product no longer useful. That would > leave the product effectively orphaned, in Jakarta land but with nobody willing >

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thursday, October 18, 2001, at 07:48 AM, Endre Stølsvik wrote: > So you (Jakarta) rejected Jboss. I didn't know that. How incredibly smart > of you. Think about the synergies between Tomcat and Jboss!!! Wow! > Incredible. rejecting jboss was probably good (in the long term) for everybody. jbo

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thursday, October 18, 2001, at 08:18 AM, Ranjit Mathew wrote: > Coming to the issues raised in Jon's document and > elsewhere on this thread, I must tell you that this > has been a closed-source project so far with no > external developer community to speak of. It is still > being actively dev

RE: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread Danny Angus
I've followed this thread with interest, I have to say that I think the move to open source for a product has to be independant of any other action. If you aren't commited to releasing your product under an open source licence without the support of Apache it does seem suspicious. If your OS pro

RE: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread Paul Ilechko
Thanks to all the people who came up with helpful suggestions, we'll be looking into our options. Paul. > -Original Message- > From: Danny Angus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ASPizer > > > I've follow

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Jon Stevens
Sam, I have integrated the changes that you suggested, please take a look. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Sam Ruby
Jon Stevens wrote: > > Sam, > > I have integrated the changes that you suggested, please take a look. > > +1 on the proposal - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 10/18/01 3:18 AM, "Ranjit Mathew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear All, > > It's somewhat sad that this discussion has degenerated > into a flamefest, rife with personal attacks and orificial > metaphors. Made me actually make a separate folder and rule for general@ [SNIP] > > No, tha