Re: Problem installing Jarkarta-Tomcat

2002-02-19 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Danny Angus wrote: | Hi, | although this question would be more likely to get an accurate answer on the | tomcat mailing lists: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html "idiot.html" - no less. How _nice_.. What about "ignorant" or some other not so rude word? -- Mvh, End

Jakarta PMC 2002 Elections: verification of votes

2002-02-19 Thread dirkx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Folks, We're well past the deadline for voting now. At the moment we are verifying the ballots. Committers: If you voted - you should have received a confirmation by now. If all information is correct - then you do not need to do anything. If you did not vot

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I'm not sure I'm against this idea entirely... Just who is going to pay for it? VA has massive hardware behind Sourceforge (and its still down all the damn time). How do you do Apacheforge on far less boxen without whats left of VC money and probably an IPO? All of the other issues are little d

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Vladimir Bossicard
> Apache is and has always been selective for a reason: we value > communities more than software and it takes a lot of energy to build a > community solid enough to build good enough software to pay back Apache > for the risk of diluting the brand each time a new effort is added. The question i

RE: ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Marc Saegesser
Paul, That helped me better understand your position. Let me see if I can clarify mine a little more. ApacheForge is essentially SourceForce with an Apache flavor. The purpose of ApacheForge would be to provide a nursery for starting projects licensed under the Apache License. I like the idea

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Paul Hammant wrote: > Apache create ApacheForge. It has rules on IP and decision making, but > is completely open to entrants. -1 Apache is and has always been selective for a reason: we value communities more than software and it takes a lot of energy to build a community solid enough to build

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Hammant
Marc, Apache as is is an Ivory tower. Projects come here infrequently and Apache license is not a natural or obvious choice for peopel starting projects elsewhere (typically sourceforge). Perhaps think of it this way, Apache with in partnership with sourceforge mounts ApacheForge. Communi

RE: ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Marc Saegesser
Paul, I still don't get it. What you've essentially proposed is SourceForge running on Apache hardware and named ApacheForge. The idea being, I think, that having 'Apache' in the name lends it some credibility. But you've also removed all the normal barriers to entry into the Apache community

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Hammant
Marc, It's a marketing thing. This is more general than my AltRMI issue. I think ApacheForge has merit irrespective of what happens to AltRMI. - Paul >-1 > >Since the proposed ApacheForge would have no real connection with Apache >other than running on Apache hardware I don't really see the val

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Hammant
Daniel, Yes I guess I would. Do you hold the purse strings for Apache.org ? - Paul >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Hammant writes: > >>I like the idea of a seperate, but endorsed ApacheForge site. It would >>give i) Encouragement ii) Independance but also iii) Community. I think >>it

RE: ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Marc Saegesser
-1 Since the proposed ApacheForge would have no real connection with Apache other than running on Apache hardware I don't really see the value. How is this different from starting a project on SourceForge and building the community that way? There's nothing stopping anyone from using the Apache

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Hammant writes: >I like the idea of a seperate, but endorsed ApacheForge site. It would >give i) Encouragement ii) Independance but also iii) Community. I think >it is a good and safe solution to what I think is the catch-22 situation >of trying to get a

ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Hammant
Folks, *Management summary* Apache create ApacheForge. It has rules on IP and decision making, but is completely open to entrants. *Long winded desc* The Free Software Foundation were peeved that SourceForge forked their site source internally. So upset in fact they mounted their own site -

RE: Problem installing Jarkarta-Tomcat

2002-02-19 Thread Danny Angus
Hi, although this question would be more likely to get an accurate answer on the tomcat mailing lists: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html You may find that your environment variable JAVA_HOME is not set, how you set it depends upon what version of windows you are using. d. > -Original

Problem installing Jarkarta-Tomcat

2002-02-19 Thread EZEILO Uchenna
Hi, I am having problem installing Tomcat_4_0.exe on windows. I keep getting error message .. Couldn't find a Java Development Kit installed on this computer.Please download one from http://java.sun.com. My confusion is that I actually have installed j2sdk and j2sdkee and even moved them to vario