Re: Last call for comments Was: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-06 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Danny Angus wrote: There are a couple of tweaky things - like the font seems a little bigger than it needs to be, I twiddled with James css y'day, I think the fonts there are finally OK http://james.apache.org the (extremely simple) css is in svn if you want to look. I'd be int

Re: Last call for comments Was: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-06 Thread Danny Angus
> There are a couple of tweaky things - like the font seems a little > bigger than it needs to be, I twiddled with James css y'day, I think the fonts there are finally OK http://james.apache.org the (extremely simple) css is in svn if you want to look. I'd be interested in theiveing the 3tier xsl

Re: Last call for comments Was: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-06 Thread sebb
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:57:10 -0800, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:19:37 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://www.apache.org/~bayard/jakarta-3tier.html > > > > Rolled back to remove the table->div header change for the moment. I'd

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-06 Thread Danny Angus
> So either: a) we should roll back to the table style for header and > footer for the moment; or b) we should just ignore it and wait for > complaints to come in :) > Does a) sound okay? When you sell it like that its unopposable! d. ***

Re: Last call for comments Was: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:19:37 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.apache.org/~bayard/jakarta-3tier.html > > Rolled back to remove the table->div header change for the moment. I'd > like to go ahead and make the change to a 3 column on Friday. Looks OK to me. I'd sa

Last call for comments Was: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread Henri Yandell
http://www.apache.org/~bayard/jakarta-3tier.html Rolled back to remove the table->div header change for the moment. I'd like to go ahead and make the change to a 3 column on Friday. Any nay-sayers before then, let me know. Hen -

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Sounds good to me. Then we'll have everything under version control. That way I can send patches for you to apply :-) Since the site will be generated from the xdocs anyway, it will be easy to roll out a new more css-savvy site later on. -- Dennis Lundberg Henri Yandell wrote: I want to get us

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread Henri Yandell
I want to get us to CSS only, but dev wise that can be a bit of a pain in the arse to get to in my experience, death by a thousand minor bugs. Getting these changes folded into the site soon is my aim as otherwise it'll end up becoming a dead fork. So either: a) we should roll back to the table

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread Dennis Lundberg
This is probably due to the large table. I've stumbled across this a few times in the past. When printing, Firefox/Mozilla/Netscape sometimes (not allways) tries to fit a table on one printed page. Here's a rundown on what goes on inside the browser: 1. Can I fit the first div and the following

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread sebb
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 12:25:53 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which version are you on? Which OS? Help About shows: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0 i.e. WinNT + FF 1.0 I can check on WinXP later. Just noticed that the firs

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread Henri Yandell
Which version are you on? Which OS? 1.0 on XP looks good. 1.0PR on OS X looks good. 1.0 on SuSE 9.2 looks...crap :) But doesn't display your problem. Hen On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: Looking good. Just noticed a peculiarity with FireFox: print preview shows only the logo and 1st HR on the first

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread sebb
Looking good. Just noticed a peculiarity with FireFox: print preview shows only the logo and 1st HR on the first page; the rest appears on subsequent pages. == Might be worth considering using the CSS attribute display:none for the side columns on some pages when the output is a printer. S. On

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Dennis Lundberg wrote: Your changes do the same as mine did, so it wasn't the 1% or 98% bit in my .page-header. Also, when you switch to a div the container no longer stretches across the screen and so the border line only goes under the logo and not all the way across. That

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Dennis Lundberg wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Dennis Lundberg wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: I've made a stab at doing as you suggest. The hr is gone at the top. To get it to shift in a bit I couldn't find a way that didn't move the feather in a bit too. I know

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Dennis Lundberg wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: I've made a stab at doing as you suggest. The hr is gone at the top. To get it to shift in a bit I couldn't find a way that didn't move the feather in a bit too. I know I could probably now move the feather agai

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Dennis Lundberg wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: I've made a stab at doing as you suggest. The hr is gone at the top. To get it to shift in a bit I couldn't find a way that didn't move the feather in a bit too. I know I could probably now move the feather again to the left, but it

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-05 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Henri Yandell wrote: I've made a stab at doing as you suggest. The hr is gone at the top. To get it to shift in a bit I couldn't find a way that didn't move the feather in a bit too. I know I could probably now move the feather again to the left, but it seems to not be a big deal and I want to a

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-04 Thread Henri Yandell
I've made a stab at doing as you suggest. The hr is gone at the top. To get it to shift in a bit I couldn't find a way that didn't move the feather in a bit too. I know I could probably now move the feather again to the left, but it seems to not be a big deal and I want to avoid such hackery. I

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-04 Thread Henri Yandell
Both good css-embraces. I'm happy with any moves from html to css and expect the page to get more and more into css over time. Patches/suggestions welcome (though it'll need to be in cvs first for patches to be done easily :) ). I'll add it to the todo list. Hen On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Dennis Lundbe

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-04 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Great work on this Henri! Two small details that would clean up the html a bit: 1. Skip the header separator, see below. This can be done by putting a class on the page header table and applying a css-rule similar to the ones used in the left-navbar. ... ... 2. Skip the tables inside the "

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-04 Thread Henri Yandell
Font'd, though not the same 95% size as www.apache.org. http://www.apache.org/~bayard/jakarta-3tier.html In fact, there's a css now: http://www.apache.org/~bayard/jakarta-3tier.css Any other suggestions? Hen On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Brett Porter wrote: [The aim

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-03 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Brett Porter wrote: [The aim is to use inline styles for the interim, and then migrate to a real css sheet later]. Will it use the same styles as the foundation/top level site? Especially given that they look so similar now, its a bit weird that the fonts change. Looks like www

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-02 Thread Brett Porter
> [The aim is to use inline styles for the interim, and then migrate to a > real css sheet later]. Will it use the same styles as the foundation/top level site? Especially given that they look so similar now, its a bit weird that the fonts change. Cheers, Brett --

[site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-02 Thread Henri Yandell
Next I'd like to move to the three tier approach; but without changing content or removing nav-options etc. http://www.apache.org/~bayard/jakarta-3tier.html Obviously, with 3-tiers there is less room in the centre, though a lot of that is made up by a tighter LHS navbar. Following a move to a 3