Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-28 Thread Sam Ruby
Kevin Burton wrote: > > I think we are just on the classic "slippery slope". It will probably > get worse before there is uniform acceptance that it exists. Or that it splits. One could easily imagine that a database and related projects merits its own PMC. - Sam Ruby ---

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-28 Thread burtonator
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Duncan Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday, July 26, 2001, at 03:50 PM, burtonator wrote: > > > I might agree with that. But IMO we have a lot of things that are out of > > scope? > > Ant? James? Log4J? Regexp? Come on? Don'

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-27 Thread James Duncan Davidson
On Thursday, July 26, 2001, at 03:50 PM, burtonator wrote: > I might agree with that. But IMO we have a lot of things that are out > of scope? > Ant? James? Log4J? Regexp? Come on? Don't get me wrong.. I LOVE > those > projects but I think that a DB is more in-scope than they are :) > Y

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-26 Thread burtonator
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Duncan Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday, July 24, 2001, at 04:30 PM, GOMEZ Henri wrote: > > > And after all sourceforge is now a really good area > > to host OpenSource projects (java and others). > > This isn't Sourcefor

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-26 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/25/01 1:38 PM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > burtonator at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> But they haven't approached us... And I believe the first step should be >>> done by them.. >> >> >> Not according to them. They said that they approached Jakarta about 1 - 1.5 >

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-26 Thread Ted Husted
James Duncan Davidson wrote: > This isn't Sourceforge. I'm actually *not* in favor of bringing a > database under the Jakarta umbrella. It's out of scope in my opinion -- > and scope creep is a problem that we've been facing for a long time. It's tempting to say, well a lot of our in-scope projec

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-26 Thread James Duncan Davidson
On Tuesday, July 24, 2001, at 04:30 PM, GOMEZ Henri wrote: > And after all sourceforge is now a really good area > to host OpenSource projects (java and others). This isn't Sourceforge. I'm actually *not* in favor of bringing a database under the Jakarta umbrella. It's out of scope in my o

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-25 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
burtonator at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> But they haven't approached us... And I believe the first step should be >> done by them.. > > > Not according to them. They said that they approached Jakarta about 1 - 1.5 > years ago. > > Of course that was a LONG time ago :) :) Then it was when I

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-25 Thread burtonator
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > GOMEZ Henri at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I totally agree and I'll be more than happy to see hsql > > in jakarta. > > But they haven't approached us... And I believe the first step should be

RE: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-25 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>I'm pretty happy with our little niche on Apache... And again, >let's try not >to get off-topic :) ok, end of thread :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-24 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
GOMEZ Henri at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Sometimes competition in similar (or same) projects >>> became a sane emulation (Pier knows what I mean :) >> >> We're not competing with HSQL... > > I don't speak of HSQL Pier :) Well, I am, and Kevin is... Our disagreements on visions for Tomcat is

RE: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-24 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>> Sometimes competition in similar (or same) projects >> became a sane emulation (Pier knows what I mean :) > >We're not competing with HSQL... I don't speak of HSQL Pier :) >> And after all sourceforge is now a really good area >> to host OpenSource projects (java and others). > > I do

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-24 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
GOMEZ Henri at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I totally agree and I'll be more than happy to see hsql > in jakarta. But they haven't approached us... And I believe the first step should be done by them.. > Sometimes competition in similar (or same) projects > became a sane emulation (Pier knows

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-24 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
burtonator at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> IMVHO, we shouldn't run after projects who, as you said, have a negative >> inclination towards the Foundation. We have already enough stuff in ou

RE: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-24 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>> If one of their team comes up and asks, we can consider it, >but I don't feel >> it's our task to go out and convince them to join us... > > >Yes. I understand this perspective. However I think it is >important to note >that sometimes cooperation is much better than competition. I totall

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-24 Thread burtonator
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > IMVHO, we shouldn't run after projects who, as you said, have a negative > inclination towards the Foundation. We have already enough stuff in our bags > to keep us busy forever, and although the pro

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-22 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
burtonator at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Just an FYI. > > I have spent a lot of time recently working with the Hypersonic people. > > There are a number of issues here. It seems they talked to Apache in the past > about moving Hypersonic under Jakarta but were turned down. Since then a lot

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-22 Thread burtonator
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Michael McCallum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > try this one with a BSD licence... > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/hsqldb Just an FYI. I have spent a lot of time recently working with the Hypersonic people. There are a number of issues here