Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Folks, this is *NOT* a VOTE thread. Please refrain from casting ballots thanks, dims On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm -1 because the Axis2 project is not just axis2- its a collection of enabling pieces (axiom, neethi at least) and a bunch of up

Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Gee...thanks a ton for the clarficiation. -- dims On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeez I wasn't casting a vote - I expressed my opinion and then made it clear using the Apache terminology for expressing positions. Lighten up dude. Sanjiva.

Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Dear Team, For a few years now, there is a growing consensus at the board level that a small focused PMC that directly reports to the board is better than a huge umbrella PMCs. two umbrella PMC's have already made transitions including XML and Jakarta. One reason is that they have found that a

Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Deepal jayasinghe
One reason is that they have found that a small focused PMC/committer set takes better care of the code, web site, releases, legal issues and basic oversight of day to day workings of a PMC better than a huge umbrella PMC. For example, personally i think Synapse has thrived after it left the

Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Deepal jayasinghe wrote: Personally, I'd really like to get all of us committed, willing and able to contribute in a much more coordinated fashion then we are today. We don't hang out on IRC, no weekly chats, not much forward looking discussions, not much enthusiasm or cooperation anymore from

Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Deepal, yep, not taking care of them is what i meant. Yep, i totally understand day-to-day work. thanks, dims On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Deepal jayasinghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One reason is that they have found that a small focused PMC/committer set takes better care of the code,

Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Glen Daniels
Hi dims, all: Davanum Srinivas wrote: For a few years now, there is a growing consensus at the board level that a small focused PMC that directly reports to the board is better than a huge umbrella PMCs. two umbrella PMC's have already made transitions including XML and Jakarta. +1. As PMC

Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Glen Daniels
Hi Sanjiva: Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: Also the other reason IMO is that axis2 is mostly done .. I have no objection at all to someone starting an axis3 or doing a lot of changes to axis2, but I personally don't have major problems that I see need to be fixed in axis2. Yes there are tons of

Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Glen Daniels
Kurt T Stam wrote: jUDDI has 3 active developers working on implementing the UDDIv3 spec (http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/webservices/juddi/branches/v3_trunk/) . Please don't talk about moth-balling us! Just checking to see if you were paying attention. :) No way, Kurt - I hope to be using your

Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
How does becoming a TLP change the status quo for getting things done? Sanjiva. Davanum Srinivas wrote: No one is asking that everyone needs to get excited at the proposal. If people are interested, let it move forward. If no one is interested, it will just drop dead. If people take this

Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
If we can find people to man the PMC's and act as chair, sure, let's get more projects as TLP's. -- dims On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glen, so if you agree that its a TLP with Axis2 + up stream and downstream projects then why not push the other

Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP

2008-10-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Anything that is usable/shipped with Axis2 or depends on Axis2 IMHO. -- dims On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Glen, if we're talking about a new TLP what are the proposed components under it? What will remain in the ws TLP because they don't have