Re: [gentoo-amd64] [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Craig Webster
On 10 Dec 2005, at 01:54, Eric Bliss wrote: Okay, I lied, there's one more point. It doesn't apply to me, but there are plenty of people who it does apply to - not everybody who subscribes to these lists has a broadband internet connection. And depending on how many of these lists they sub

Re: [gentoo-amd64] [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Eric Bliss
On Friday 09 December 2005 04:17 pm, Bob Young wrote: > Thank you, that's exactly the point, the major objection is on a *mailing > list*, the content is much more well defined, each and every message is > thousands of times less likely to be spam or malware, than any randomly > selected non-list e

[gentoo-amd64] RE: [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Duncan
Bob Young posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:17:57 -0800: >>So, exactly what would you refer to the Sober Worm attack on Nov. 23 >>as??? > 3 >>weeks ago is pretty damned recent. > > Two points, first I'd bet that the attack didn't start with a message to > an ema

RE: [gentoo-amd64] [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Bob Young
-Original Message- From: Eric Bliss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:17 PM To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] [OT- html posts] >Now suppose these e-mail >accounts were for kids, rather than old professionals and it just gets worse. >A

[gentoo-amd64] RE: RE: Re: gcc compile failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Duncan
Bob Young posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:14:55 -0800: >>2) For those with content worth reading, the content is /just/ as worth >>reading in plain text. It doesn't need HTML to fancy it up or obscure >>it. In fact, those who DO seem to /need/ HTML, don't oft

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Firefox and Flash

2005-12-09 Thread Olivier Crete
On Fri, 2005-09-12 at 22:45 +, Neil Stone wrote: > does firefox-bin have svg support ?? Version 1.5 does -- Olivier Crête [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Developer -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Firefox and Flash

2005-12-09 Thread Olivier Crete
On Fri, 2005-09-12 at 22:33 +, Neil Stone wrote: > Has anyone managed to get this working together, I have tried everything > I can think of to no avail... There is no 64-bit flash plugin available. You must use firefox-bin (which is 32bit) and then you will get working flash. -- Olivier Crê

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Firefox and Flash

2005-12-09 Thread Neil Stone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Gryniewicz wrote: > On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 22:33 +, Neil Stone wrote: > >>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>Hash: SHA1 >> >>Has anyone managed to get this working together, I have tried everything >>I can think of to no avail... >> >>So m

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Firefox and Flash

2005-12-09 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz
On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 22:33 +, Neil Stone wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Has anyone managed to get this working together, I have tried everything > I can think of to no avail... > > So many websites these days are using Flash it's a shame to miss out.. > You ne

[gentoo-amd64] Firefox and Flash

2005-12-09 Thread Neil Stone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone managed to get this working together, I have tried everything I can think of to no avail... So many websites these days are using Flash it's a shame to miss out.. Neil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Commen

Re: [gentoo-amd64] [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Eric Bliss
On Friday 09 December 2005 01:14 pm, Bob Young wrote: > >For those of us seriously concerned about security, > >that's a huge reason right there, altho admittedly, alone, the benefits > >might outweigh it, if a suitably secure parsing method can be found (and > >there is such a method, don't fetch

RE: [gentoo-amd64] RE: Re: gcc compile failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Bob Young
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Duncan Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 11:26 AM To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-amd64] RE: Re: gcc compile failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation [OT- html posts] Bob Young posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerp

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Multiple X with multiple Keyboards

2005-12-09 Thread Christian Aistleitner
Hello Duncan aka magician aka geek god aka guru, So, I'm glad you replied, to let me know you got the message. Do let us know how it works, [...] I tried to upgrade xorg, but failed. The xorg 7.0 ran about 1-2 seconds and then crashed. No hints in log files. As I currently do not have time

Re: [gentoo-amd64] RE: Re: gcc compile failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Barry . SCHWARTZ
In the olden days, I didn't have much trouble expressing myself with a typewriter, didn't need any HTML then. And usually the only legitimate form of emphasis in text is italics, or, when italics are unavailable, underlining or something like _this technique_. Even users of HTML should practice suc

[gentoo-amd64] RE: Re: gcc compile failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Duncan
Bob Young posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:25:21 -0800: > Even the two reasons listed in the above reply don't stand up very well to > logical reasoning, it's obvious the OP was neither a spammer nor a malware > author, filtering all html email on the basis of t

[gentoo-amd64] RE: Re: gcc compile failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation

2005-12-09 Thread Duncan
Clemente Aguiar posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:39:01 +: > >> De: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Duncan >> >> Clemente Aguiar ... >> >> > After the basic stage3 instalation, kernel compilation and reboot, >> > everything was fine. [Then an eme

RE: [gentoo-amd64] Re: gcc compile failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Bob Young
-Original Message- From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 12:05 AM To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: gcc compile failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation [OT- html posts] * Bob Young wrote: >> I know that many share this

Re: [gentoo-amd64] initio seen, mt -f doesn't work

2005-12-09 Thread Brett Johnson
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 05:55:28PM +, Gavin Seddon wrote: > Thanks > Which modules do I need to add to 'etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6'? > Gavin. > > Assuming that doing the 'modprobe initio' worked for you, that's all you need to put into the /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. It appe

Re: [gentoo-amd64] initio seen, mt -f doesn't work

2005-12-09 Thread Gavin Seddon
Thanks Which modules do I need to add to 'etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6'? Gavin. On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 08:08 -0600, Brett Johnson wrote: > > st: Version 20050830, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256 > > It appears to me that the st driver is loading properly, but I did not > see any sign of

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problems with Ethernet on installation

2005-12-09 Thread Felipe Ribeiro
I want to overwrite my slack with gentoo, i think the simplest way is to put a second NIC while installing (actually i think i have one somewhere...). it's what i'm gonna do. thanks! On 12/9/05, Brett Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this a brand new system or one running Slackware alread

Re: [gentoo-amd64] chrooted environment not available to users

2005-12-09 Thread Billy Holmes
Peter Humphrey wrote: (Pardon my butting in, Billy; I thought my experience might help Mark.) no worries! What you said is pretty much on target except for the distfiles, but as Duncan said, if you run a distfile cleaner it will clean out the original tarball, however, the ebuild *should* dow

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Problems with Ethernet on installation

2005-12-09 Thread Brett Johnson
Is this a brand new system or one running Slackware already? I'm guessing the easiest way would be to add a second NIC. If you already have a linux OS running on the box, and have some spare disk space, you could start the install from the disk setup step. This way you would have network support.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge world problems kde-base blocking kwin

2005-12-09 Thread Γιώργος Αβραμίδης
Thanks! I should check out changes in gentoo documentation more often... Στις Παρ 09 Δεκ 2005 16:22, ο/η Brett Johnson έγραψε: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 03:59:48PM +0200, ??? ? wrote: > > Hi there. I just synced after a long time and I had the following problem > > > > Calculating wor

Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge world problems kde-base blocking kwin

2005-12-09 Thread Brett Johnson
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 03:59:48PM +0200, ??? ? wrote: > Hi there. I just synced after a long time and I had the following problem > > Calculating world dependencies ...done! > [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kwin-3.4.3) > [blocks B ] =kde-base/kwin-3.4

[gentoo-amd64] Problems with Ethernet on installation

2005-12-09 Thread Felipe Ribeiro
Hi all, I'm a Slackware user, but i decided to give Gentoo a try! :-) Gentoo instalation uses kernel 2.6.12, and it doesn't have my ethernet card module. It is the sis190, that have been added on 2.6.14, do i have to put another card while installing or is there another solution? Thanks in advanc

Re: [gentoo-amd64] initio seen, mt -f doesn't work

2005-12-09 Thread Brett Johnson
> st: Version 20050830, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256 It appears to me that the st driver is loading properly, but I did not see any sign of the SCSI driver loading in the dmesg output. This could be becuase you have the module compiled as a module, in which case you can jump to the last para

[gentoo-amd64] emerge world problems kde-base blocking kwin

2005-12-09 Thread Γιώργος Αβραμίδης
Hi there. I just synced after a long time and I had the following problem Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kwin-3.4.3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kwin-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1) [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gnuconfig

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: cockspeed: no effect on amd64?

2005-12-09 Thread Taka John Brunkhorst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] :D -- Int'l Anti-Microsoft Assn. Japan/S'pore Dept. fsck /dev/urandom; Taka John Brunkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-amd64] Re: chrooted environment not available to users

2005-12-09 Thread Duncan
Peter Humphrey posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:42:09 +: > Oh, and don't put the tarball in /usr/portage/distfiles/ or it'll be erased > at the next emerge --sync! As the default location for downloaded source tarballs, distfiles isn't synced, so anything

[gentoo-amd64] Re: clockspeed: no effect on amd64?

2005-12-09 Thread Duncan
Yassen Damyanov posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 09 Dec 2005 11:45:51 +0200: > I'm looking for anyone using clockspeed successfully on > amd64. > > I have a success story 2 years ago using it on a Redhat 6 > system to correct a terribly drifting clock. It did a > *perfect* jo

Re: [gentoo-amd64] xine - Station Agent - libdvdcss

2005-12-09 Thread theboywho
On Friday 09 December 2005 01:49, Mark Knecht wrote: > Thanks. Which version of xine-ui have you emerged? I've got 0.99.4-r3 > and I do not see that setting even when I'm Master of the Known > Universe. I have the same version. After changing to Master Of The Known Universe you have to hit apply b

[gentoo-amd64] Re: cockspeed: no effect on amd64?

2005-12-09 Thread Duncan
Rob Lesslie posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:53:27 +: > Bit of a typo in the subject :) Indeed, and it may trip many spam filters. However, did you /really/ need to quote all 60-ish lines to make that one-line observation? -- Duncan - List replies prefer

[gentoo-amd64] cLockspeed: no effect on amd64?

2005-12-09 Thread Yassen Damyanov
Rob Lesslie wrote: > Bit of a typo in the subject :) > > -- > Rob Lesslie > :)) Well, *that* was funny :)) Sorry, was completely unintentional... So I repeat my request for those who thought it was spam: I'm looking for anyone using clockspeed successfully on amd64. I have a success story 2 y

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: gcc compile failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
Bob Young wrote: Must we be constrained to communicate with each other via nothing more sophisticated than plain text forever and ever? Yes. Oh, and how am I supposed to know where your quote ends and your message begins? -- Rgds Peter Humphrey Linux Counter 5290, Aug 93. -- gentoo-amd64@gen

Re: [gentoo-amd64] chrooted environment not available to users

2005-12-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
Mark Knecht wrote: I'm apparently not able to get the path edit quite right. It's asking about /home/32-bit. Please double check me if possible: 1) Everything, including the patch file, is copied to /usr/local/portage/sys-apps/l32: (Pardon my butting in, Billy; I thought my experience migh

Re: [gentoo-amd64] initio seen, mt -f doesn't work

2005-12-09 Thread Gavin Seddon
Hi Script attached. I am going to rebuild the kernel anyway. Gavin On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 11:46 -0500, Billy Holmes wrote: > Brett Johnson wrote: > > As an example, look for your primary hard drive entry (hda, hde, sda etc). > > There should be a similar entry for st0 after it detects the tape

Re: [gentoo-amd64] cockspeed: no effect on amd64?

2005-12-09 Thread Rob Lesslie
On 09/12/05, Yassen Damyanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking for anyone using clockspeed successfully on > amd64. > > I have a success story 2 years ago using it on a Redhat 6 > system to correct a terribly drifting clock. It did a > *perfect* job for me. > > Now I am trying to

[gentoo-amd64] cockspeed: no effect on amd64?

2005-12-09 Thread Yassen Damyanov
Hello, I'm looking for anyone using clockspeed successfully on amd64. I have a success story 2 years ago using it on a Redhat 6 system to correct a terribly drifting clock. It did a *perfect* job for me. Now I am trying to use it to correct a clock that speeds up about 1 sec. per hour, this on

RE: [gentoo-amd64] Re: gcc compile failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation

2005-12-09 Thread Clemente Aguiar
> -Mensagem original- > De: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Duncan > Enviada: quinta-feira, 8 de Dezembro de 2005 14:30 > Para: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org > > > Clemente Aguiar posted > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > excerpted below, on Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:02:31 +: > > > How

Re: [gentoo-amd64] AMD64 - Firefox, flash, java, mplayer and more....

2005-12-09 Thread milton . yates
Selon Nuitari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You can have mplayer(64 bit) and mplayer-bin(32 bit) concurrently on a > gentoo installation. Whenever you need the 32 bit part just use > mplayer-bin This also works and enables the use of win32codecs on a 64 bit platform (using a 32bit mplayer of course). If

[gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Multiple X with multiple Keyboards

2005-12-09 Thread Duncan
Christian Aistleitner posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:35:54 +0100: > good grief! The new xorgs came just in time :D Thank you. That is exactly > what I was looking for. =8^) I was thinking just how coincidental it seemed, when I saw that in the RSS scroller (

Re: [gentoo-amd64] AMD64 - Firefox, flash, java, mplayer and more....

2005-12-09 Thread Nuitari
One problem I see with your suggestion is that I need to play wmv files from web links and the win32codecs flag for mplayer is masked out on my box. Until I set this positive in my chroot'ed environment all I got was audio. With it turned on I get video also. If this cannot be turned on in the 64

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: gcc compile failed after 2005.1-r1 instalation [OT- html posts]

2005-12-09 Thread Marco Matthies
Bob Young wrote: I know that many share this opinion, and although I don't want to start a flame war, I do think there are some valid counter points in favor of html. Everyone is of course free to filter content based on his or her own preferences. However most of the reasons given against postin