Peter Humphrey posted on Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:16:13 +0100 as excerpted:
> On Sunday 23 August 2009 18:04:45 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
>> Reading your emails takes more time than installing kde.
>
> So do what I did a few years ago: put him in your kill file.
Indeed. No need to get huffy abo
Barry Schwartz posted on Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:56:33 -0500 as excerpted:
> Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> skribis:
>> Barry Schwartz posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:54:58 -0500 as excerpted:
>>
>> > Konsole for 4 seems to need a bit more work,
>>
>> What issues are you seeing?
>
> No background imag
Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> skribis:
> Barry Schwartz posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:54:58 -0500 as excerpted:
>
> > Konsole for 4 seems to need a bit more work,
>
> What issues are you seeing?
No background image support, apparently (I couldn't find it, and
Googling made me think it wasn't the
> Well, the nVidia might be nice, but I asked specifically for Radeon (tho
> other well freedomware driver supported or headed that way card would work)
> as well as AGP, because Radeon is AFAIK the best freedomware supported
> hardware available.
>
> But... (vv)
I think that yes, along with intel
Jesús Guerrero posted on Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:18:56 +0200 as excerpted:
> On Fri, August 28, 2009 01:52, Duncan wrote:
>> Jesús Guerrero posted on Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:08:07 +0200 as excerpted:
>>
>>
>>> Just for the record, things like compiz work preferctly in an nvidia
>>> 6200, agp. They will w
Barry Schwartz posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:54:58 -0500 as excerpted:
> Konsole for 4 seems to need a bit more work,
What issues are you seeing? That's /one/ major kde thing I use that I
had /no/ problems with the 4.x version on, at least since 4.2.4. I don't
believe I ran it enough before t
On Fri, August 28, 2009 03:39, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Freitag 28 August 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> On Fri, August 28, 2009 03:18, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>
>>> On Freitag 28 August 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>>>
On Fri, August 28, 2009 02:01, Frank Peters wrote:
>>>
On Freitag 28 August 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> On Fri, August 28, 2009 03:18, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Freitag 28 August 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> >> On Fri, August 28, 2009 02:01, Frank Peters wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:34:24 +0200
> >>>
> oh really? can mc present
On Freitag 28 August 2009, Frank Peters wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:42:00 +0200
>
> Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> > In kde, when you enter a cdaudio in your drive and open it, this
> > kio-slave presents you the cdaudio disk in an fs-like fashion, with
> > a number of folders. One folder containing
On Fri, August 28, 2009 03:18, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Freitag 28 August 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> On Fri, August 28, 2009 02:01, Frank Peters wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:34:24 +0200
>>>
>>>
oh really? can mc present an audiocd as ogg/mp3/flac/wav files?
I d
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:42:00 +0200
Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
> In kde, when you enter a cdaudio in your drive and open it, this
> kio-slave presents you the cdaudio disk in an fs-like fashion, with
> a number of folders. One folder containing ogg files, other mp3 files,
> other wav files, and so o
On Freitag 28 August 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> On Fri, August 28, 2009 02:01, Frank Peters wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:34:24 +0200
> >
> >> oh really? can mc present an audiocd as ogg/mp3/flac/wav files?
> >>
> >> I don't think so.
> >
> > I am not sure what is meant by "present an audio
Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> skribis:
> Frank Peters posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:03:51 -0400 as excerpted:
>
> > After reading this thread on the problems of the new KDE, I can only say
> > that the best solution would be to abandon KDE entirely and choose
> > something much simpler.
>
> That'
On Fri, August 28, 2009 02:01, Frank Peters wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:34:24 +0200
>
>>
>> oh really? can mc present an audiocd as ogg/mp3/flac/wav files?
>>
>> I don't think so.
>>
>
> I am not sure what is meant by "present an audio cd," but mc can be
> programmed by the user to accomplish
On Fri, August 28, 2009 01:52, Duncan wrote:
> Jesús Guerrero posted on Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:08:07 +0200 as excerpted:
>
>
>> Just for the record, things like compiz work preferctly in an nvidia
>> 6200, agp. They will work without a problem in an hd2600 which is a much
>> better card, agp as wel
Frank Peters posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:03:51 -0400 as excerpted:
> After reading this thread on the problems of the new KDE, I can only say
> that the best solution would be to abandon KDE entirely and choose
> something much simpler.
That's what many are doing. Under a bit different circums
Mark Knecht posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:15:15 -0700 as excerpted:
> Now, lest it sound like I'm complaining, I'm really not. I'm just saying
> how I see the truth about this stuff. I prefer FLOSS when it does what I
> need, but being FLOSS it may or may not be up to the quality I can get
> from
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:34:24 +0200
>
> oh really? can mc present an audiocd as ogg/mp3/flac/wav files?
>
> I don't think so.
I am not sure what is meant by "present an audio cd," but mc can be
programmed by the user to accomplish a lot of tasks based on the
file type. Therefore, although I hav
Allistar posted on Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:05:31 +1200 as excerpted:
> No, a static layout in xorg.conf. From what I know, the XRANDR extension
> doesn't play well with the COMPOSITE extension. Also the XINERAMA
> extension doesn't play well with COMPOSITE either. (WHich is why I have
> two separate X
Jesús Guerrero posted on Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:08:07 +0200 as excerpted:
> Just for the record, things like compiz work preferctly in an nvidia
> 6200, agp. They will work without a problem in an hd2600 which is a much
> better card, agp as well.
Hmm, I wasn't aware the Radeons (I assume you're tal
Paul Hartman posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:04:22 -0500 as excerpted:
>> Oh and I miss the weather applet, and the kworldclock background image
>> and… and… and…
>
> I miss the old weather applet, too. The weather forecast and LCD weather
> station don't show the same kind of info when docked into
On Fri, August 28, 2009 00:37, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Freitag 28 August 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> On Thu, August 27, 2009 17:49, Paul Hartman wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:16 AM, BRM wrote:
>>>
Not everyone upgrades their video card every 6 months.
Most probabl
On Fri, August 28, 2009 00:34, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Freitag 28 August 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> On Thu, August 27, 2009 21:14, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>
>>> On Donnerstag 27 August 2009, Frank Peters wrote:
>>> Also: network transparency.
>>>
>>
>> mc can do whatever konque
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
> well, I am just saying that even if Frank things highly integrated, code and
> functionanilty sharing DEs might be superfluos I am thinking the exact
> opposite.
Well, thats the good thing we all use Linux and everyone can use what
ever he/she/it likes to use. Be
On Freitag 28 August 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> On Thu, August 27, 2009 17:49, Paul Hartman wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:16 AM, BRM wrote:
> >> Not everyone upgrades their video card every 6 months.
> >> Most probably get a video card upgrade only when they buy a new
> >> computer; and m
On Freitag 28 August 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> On Thu, August 27, 2009 21:14, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Donnerstag 27 August 2009, Frank Peters wrote:
> > Also: network transparency.
>
> mc can do whatever konqueror can, including ftp, ssh, samba, and some
> more things that konqueror
On Thu, August 27, 2009 21:14, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Donnerstag 27 August 2009, Frank Peters wrote:
> Also: network transparency.
mc can do whatever konqueror can, including ftp, ssh, samba, and some
more things that konqueror can't, isos, archives, etc. Oh, and it
actually work, unlik
On Thu, August 27, 2009 18:27, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Sebastian
> Beßler wrote:
>
>> Paul Hartman schrieb:
>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:16 AM, BRM wrote:
>>>
Not everyone upgrades their video card every 6 months.
Most probably get a video card upgrade
On Thu, August 27, 2009 17:49, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:16 AM, BRM wrote:
>
>> Not everyone upgrades their video card every 6 months.
>> Most probably get a video card upgrade only when they buy a new
>> computer; and most don't buy a new computer every other year either,
>>
Paul Hartman schrieb:
> Good news, generic USB support is coming back in latest Amarok 2 svn:
Yes I know and it is better then nothing but you always have to remember
to create the ".is_audio_player"-file and the syntax of the file if you
want a music-folder. But it is progress that I can see.
>
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Frank Peters wrote:
> What does KDE, or Gnome for that matter, offer that a simple window
> manager cannot? I would claim that the benefits are all illusory.
> The user is deceived by the scintillating visual effects into believing
> that he possesses a tool extrao
On Donnerstag 27 August 2009, Frank Peters wrote:
> Henry Ford, the great American industrial pioneer, once remarked:
> "The best way to solve the problems of the city is to leave the city."
Henry Ford also praised national socialism.
>
> But this is pure bunk. Using Openbox with a virtual desk
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Sebastian
Beßler wrote:
> Duncan schrieb:
>> But I finally got so fed up with amarok I found a different solution.
>> They killed all the functionality I actually used, while adding a
>> bunch of junk I'm not interested in.
>
> That is exact my point. Hurray a lot
Henry Ford, the great American industrial pioneer, once remarked:
"The best way to solve the problems of the city is to leave the city."
After reading this thread on the problems of the new KDE, I can only
say that the best solution would be to abandon KDE entirely and choose
something much simple
On 8/27/09, Mark Knecht wrote:
> I'd love to see some little
> daemon that ran on my system and noticed when something I currently
> had installed was being removed from portage.
Gentoo seems to provide a feed with the information (additions,
removals etc) parseable over here:
http://packages.ge
Duncan schrieb:
> When I first switched to Linux, I was in much the same boat. While I had
> been researching a switch for a couple years, and had therefore verified
> that all my hardware purchases "did Linux", I wasn't yet aware of the
> difference between "Linux drivers" and "freedomware Li
Duncan schrieb:
> Meanwhile, kde4.3.0 still has issues with xinerama (what SB calls
> "big screen") mode in some cases (including mine), too.
If I would mean xinerama I would say so. Maybe I am pedantic but
xinerama is only a deprecated extension of the X-server, that I never
had installed becaus
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Duncan<1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> Of course, I'd say another moral is to pick hardware that's FLOSS
> supported from the beginning, if at all possible. Sometimes it may not
> be, and then one has to decide whether it's worth the negatives to go
> servantware o
BRM posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:03:02 -0700 as excerpted:
> Graphically, I notice not difference between the ATI R250 in my laptop
> and the nVidia 9600 in my AMD64 Desktop.
One thing to keep in mind is the relative resolutions. One of the
reasons the netbooks do as good as they do with their
Mark Knecht posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:25:01 -0700 as excerpted:
> If it see this it would automatically moved a copy of ebuilds and
> distfiles into some sort of a local 'in-use' overlay so they'd still be
> available to me on this machine. With something like that at least then
> nothing woul
Paul Hartman posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:27:31 -0500 as excerpted:
> I have an old Pentium 4 box which has a PCI-E video card. If a computer
> is so old it doesn't even have PCI-E, its owner probably wouldn't expect
> 3D desktop effects to work so well in the first place.
I'd contest that. Of
- Original Message
From: Paul Hartman
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:27:31 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Heads-up: KDEers: Particularly kde3-ers,
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Sebastian
> Beßler wrote:
> > Paul Hartman schrieb:
Mark Knecht posted on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:56:25 -0700 as excerpted:
> We need better tools for creating and maintaining personal overlays.
I'd like to explore that comment a bit, but below...
> Here is my story.
>
> Support for old hardware has been one of the downfalls of the devs
> deciding t
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Sebastian
Beßler wrote:
> Paul Hartman schrieb:
>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:16 AM, BRM wrote:
>>> Not everyone upgrades their video card every 6 months.
>>> Most probably get a video card upgrade only when they buy a new computer;
>>> and most don't buy a new comp
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Arttu V. wrote:
> On 8/27/09, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> Moral of the story - don't trust portage to support your machine
>> tomorrow just because it works today, and don't expect portage
>> maintainers to care. The response you'll get, if you get one at all,
>> is 'be
Paul Hartman schrieb:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:16 AM, BRM wrote:
>> Not everyone upgrades their video card every 6 months.
>> Most probably get a video card upgrade only when they buy a new computer;
>> and most don't buy a new computer every other year either, probably more
>> like 4 years or
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:16 AM, BRM wrote:
> Not everyone upgrades their video card every 6 months.
> Most probably get a video card upgrade only when they buy a new computer;
> and most don't buy a new computer every other year either, probably more like
> 4 years or so.
You can get a GeForce 9
On 8/27/09, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Moral of the story - don't trust portage to support your machine
> tomorrow just because it works today, and don't expect portage
> maintainers to care. The response you'll get, if you get one at all,
> is 'be a man, create your own overlay, be responsible for your
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:16 AM, BRM wrote:
>
> I have to agree with Duncan on this one. (not that that's a bad thing - I've
> really enjoyed his insights on this thread.)
As do I.
>
> Not everyone upgrades their video card every 6 months.
> Most probably get a video card upgrade only when they
- Original Message
From: Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:15:38 AM
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Heads-up: KDEers: Particularly kde3-ers,
Volker Armin Hemmann posted on Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:13:51 +0200 as
excerpted:
&g
Volker Armin Hemmann posted on Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:33:23 +0200 as
excerpted:
> On Montag 24 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
>> 3) Screen-setup: I have to monitores connected to my pc static in xorg
>> as two seperated displays :0.0 and :0.1. If I start kde <4.4-svn I have
>> both screens on
Volker Armin Hemmann posted on Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:13:51 +0200 as
excerpted:
> On Mittwoch 26 August 2009, Duncan wrote:
> By 4.2.4 (and I think for 4.2.0, maybe even
>> 4.1.something), kde had fixed that. It now tries to detect if OpenGL
>> will work before setting it, and normally won't let y
On Mittwoch 26 August 2009, Duncan wrote:
By 4.2.4 (and I think for 4.2.0, maybe even
> 4.1.something), kde had fixed that. It now tries to detect if OpenGL
> will work before setting it, and normally won't let you set it if it
> thinks it won't work. You can override it, but in ordered to do s
Volker Armin Hemmann posted on Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:33:23 +0200 as
excerpted:
> n Montag 24 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
>> szal...@szalkai.net schrieb:
>> > Duncan please give some examples of major breakage in KDE4?
>>
>> I'm not Duncan but I have 5 reasons not to switch to kde4 atm.
>>
>
Jesús Guerrero schrieb:
> Ignore please, I found it myself. And it, indeed, solved my problem,
> thanks a lot for the inspiration, this has been bothering me for
> some time.
Just in case anyone is still trying to disable RandR 1.2 support in
catalyst driver ( and for me as a backup :-D ), the fo
On Tue, August 25, 2009 23:56, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
> On Tue, August 25, 2009 19:17, Sebastian BeÃler wrote:
>
>> Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
>>
>>
>>> On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Sebastian BeÃler wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
No, because I can't use randr as randr doesn't supports my setup at
>>
On Tue, August 25, 2009 19:17, Sebastian BeÃler wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
>
>> On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Sebastian BeÃler wrote:
>>
>
>>> No, because I can't use randr as randr doesn't supports my setup at
>>> all. I had to deactivate randr-support in catalyst-drivers to get it
>>
szalkai posted on Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:41:19 +0200 as excerpted:
> Now that this exciting little flamewar has finished, and everybody is
> friends again :), could you Duncan please give some examples of major
> breakage in KDE4?
Altho some of it's covered down-thread by others, I did promise it if
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
> On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
>
>> I am a user not a designer. I don't know how to create a new design or
>> whatever needed to make it look and behave like what I had before.
>
> kde-look.org amarok themes. There you go.
>
This link would b
On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> I am a user not a designer. I don't know how to create a new design or
> whatever needed to make it look and behave like what I had before.
kde-look.org amarok themes. There you go.
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
> On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
>> No, because I can't use randr as randr doesn't supports my setup at all.
>> I had to deactivate randr-support in catalyst-drivers to get it working.
>> With randr only stupid bigscreen is possible. This is the r
Barry Schwartz posted on Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:20:50 -0500 as excerpted:
> Sebastian Beßler skribis:
>> The last reason I stick with kde 3.5.10 for a while is that working
>> with kde 4.x just doesn't feel right. Switching to kde4 is like
>> switching to a completly different DE. KDE 4 isn't kde an
On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
> >> 2) Crashes: kde 4.3 crashes way to often, sometimes it even brings X to
> >> its knees. Kde 3.5.10 is solid as a rock.
> >
> > I had never seen a 'bring down X' crash. There have been some konqueror
> > crashes
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
>> 2) Crashes: kde 4.3 crashes way to often, sometimes it even brings X to
>> its knees. Kde 3.5.10 is solid as a rock.
>
> I had never seen a 'bring down X' crash. There have been some konqueror
> crashes in the past - but the same is true for 3.5. Compared with 3
On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 08/25/2009 03:54 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >> Only Catalyst has this problem. The open source Radeon drivers are fine
> >> (and of course NVidia's closed drivers and everythin
On 08/25/2009 03:54 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Only Catalyst has this problem. The open source Radeon drivers are fine
(and of course NVidia's closed drivers and everything Intel is fine
too). It's one of those Catalyst bugs that are th
On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 08/25/2009 02:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >> On 08/25/2009 02:33 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>> On Montag 24 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> szal...@szalkai
On 08/25/2009 02:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/25/2009 02:33 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Montag 24 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
szal...@szalkai.net schrieb:
Now that this exciting little flamewar has finished, and
On Dienstag 25 August 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 08/25/2009 02:33 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Montag 24 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> >> szal...@szalkai.net schrieb:
> >>> Now that this exciting little flamewar has finished, and everybody is
> >>> friends again :), coul
On 08/25/2009 02:33 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Montag 24 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
szal...@szalkai.net schrieb:
Now that this exciting little flamewar has finished, and everybody is
friends again :), could you Duncan please give some examples of major
breakage in KDE4?
I'
On Montag 24 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> szal...@szalkai.net schrieb:
> > Now that this exciting little flamewar has finished, and everybody is
> > friends again :), could you Duncan please give some examples of major
> > breakage in KDE4?
>
> I'm not Duncan but I have 5 reasons not to
Sebastian Beßler skribis:
> The last reason I stick with kde 3.5.10 for a while is that working with
> kde 4.x just doesn't feel right. Switching to kde4 is like switching to
> a completly different DE. KDE 4 isn't kde anymore, it is something
> absolutly different that calls itself kde.
A few mo
szal...@szalkai.net schrieb:
> Now that this exciting little flamewar has finished, and everybody is
> friends again :), could you Duncan please give some examples of major
> breakage in KDE4?
I'm not Duncan but I have 5 reasons not to switch to kde4 atm.
1) Speed: I have a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2
Now that this exciting little flamewar has finished, and everybody is friends
again :), could you Duncan please give some examples of major
breakage in KDE4? I have been using it since 4.1.something and it is getting
better and better. Also, it took me nowhere near 80 hours to
switch from 3.5.1
Mark Knecht posted on Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:49:47 -0700 as excerpted:
> Duncan,
>I am not a KDE user as I've always felt it's too large to build and
> maintain on Gentoo, at least on my machines. That said it seems to me
> that maybe you should consider cross-posting this to Gentoo-users as I
>
Volker Armin Hemmann posted on Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:04:45 +0200 as
excerpted:
> duncan, if I want to read a book, I buy a book, This is an INTERNATIONAL
> list. We are not living in nightmare land where everybody's first
> language is english.
> Reading your emails takes more time than installing k
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