Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-19 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Jason Stubbs wrote: > So to summarise prefixed install support thus far: > 2 Portage needs to be enhanced with new ebuild support functions for >detecting the location of a dependency. Did you intend this to be needed for those deps to be installed from the ebuild-tree into the same prefix

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 19 May 2005 10:18:03 +0200 Michael Haubenwallner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > So unless it is shown otherwise, home install support requires: | | But imo the home-support _really_ requires another glep, as there | are lots of more issuses than for the prefix-support. Naah. Not really. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Another call for BugVoting on bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-19 Thread Michael Cummings
On Thursday 19 May 2005 02:56 am, Alin Nastac wrote: > gentoo is developed by volunteers, not by mercenaries. The occasional free pizza wouldn't hurt though. And some coffee. And some helper monkeys. Yeah, those three things should be considered acceptable prizes. I tried getting them to provide

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-19 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 19 May 2005 10:18:03 +0200 Michael Haubenwallner > | But imo the home-support _really_ requires another glep, as there > | are lots of more issuses than for the prefix-support. > > Naah. Not really. The hard part is figuring out how to correctly change > all shel

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:05:20 +0200 Michael Haubenwallner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Most of the packages (not ebuilds) wont work on systems without | /bin/sh (Bourne-Shell, not bash) and /usr/bin/env, so there's no need | to have a Bourne-Shell installed in /my/prefix/bin/sh instead of | /bin/sh.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-19 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 04:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Do you like the picture? Feedback please. I do like the picture. It's a very pretty picture. However, some explanation of libtool would be nice, if only because it's so good at breaking in new and inventive ways. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-19 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
One general Question: How can open source packages work on Unices which are non-Gentoo-Linux if there are that many unresolved issues you try to point out ? This is what autoconf and libtool are for, and if a package lacks using them, autoconf/libtool-like trickery has to be done in ebuilds. Ther

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 19 May 2005 01:43 am, Mike Frysinger wrote: > - i would add notes under AC_ARG_ENABLE / > AC_ARG_WITH that misuse of these macros is *very* common just remembered ... an example of how you can detect that your package may be misusing it ... if you run ./configure --enable-foo, then f

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 19 May 2005 17:18, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > 2 Portage needs to be enhanced with new ebuild support functions for > >detecting the location of a dependency. > > Did you intend this to be needed for those deps to be installed from the > ebuild-tree into

[gentoo-dev] OpenPAM compatibility fixes (why and how)

2005-05-19 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Ok many people today have seen bugs related to "openpam compatibility fixes". I think it's better explain what's going on, why I'm filling them and why some of them are marked "openpam and amd64 compatibility". For who doesn't remember, OpenPAM[1] is the PAM implementation used by FreeBSD, so al

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenLDAP 2.2 series

2005-05-19 Thread Jason Wever
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Robin H. Johnson wrote: It shouldn't cause any problems for anybody that has OpenLDAP installed as a client only, but it's a bit bumpy for those that are running OpenLDAP servers. Before this package goes stable, I'd like to suggest

[gentoo-dev] will the maintainer of app-admin/mon please contact me?

2005-05-19 Thread Michael Cummings
There's no metadata, no clear indication in the changelog, and a whole lot of perl deps are missing, but before addressing them I wanted to give a heads up to the real owner. Thanks, -Mike -- -o()o- Michael Cummings |#gentoo-dev, #gentoo-pe

[gentoo-dev] Re: xorg's RDEPEND

2005-05-19 Thread Rafael Espíndola
On 5/18/05, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How is it that you know those two greps will catch everything? I don't. In fact I am sure they don't catch everything: given a Turing machine one can replace all halts by a "do something with flex". So it is undecidable if x11 rdepends on fle

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: xorg's RDEPEND

2005-05-19 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 13:52 -0300, Rafael EspÃndola wrote: > On 5/18/05, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How is it that you know those two greps will catch everything? > I don't. In fact I am sure they don't catch everything: given a Turing > machine one can replace all halts by a "d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-19 Thread Chris White
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > It came to my attention during a recent discussion on -core that a > significant number of devs don't have a clue how autotools work and find > any kind of patching that involves tinkering with configure.ac / > Makefile.am leve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 19 May 2005 01:53 pm, Chris White wrote: > AC_CHECK_LIB(mng, mng_initialize, > [ AC_CHECK_HEADER(libmng.h, > [ have_libmng=yes > MNG_LIBS="-lmng" ], > AC_MSG_RESULT([*** All libmng dependent parts will be > disabled ***]))], >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 19 May 2005 02:59 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: > then if it works, it will add '-lmng' to LDFLAGS ... err, no it doesnt ... it adds -lmng to MNG_LIBS which is updated in Makefile's with AC_SUBST() ... -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 19 May 2005 14:46:34 +0200 Michael Haubenwallner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | How can open source packages work on Unices which are non-Gentoo-Linux | if there are that many unresolved issues you try to point out ? The issues I'm pointing out are things which are issues with the way ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-19 Thread Chris White
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 19 May 2005 02:59 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>then if it works, it will add '-lmng' to LDFLAGS ... > > > err, no it doesnt ... it adds -lmng to MNG_LIBS which is updated in > Makefile's > with AC_SUBST() ... >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 19 May 2005 03:47 pm, Chris White wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 19 May 2005 02:59 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>then if it works, it will add '-lmng' to LDFLAGS ... > > > > err, no it doesnt ... it adds -lmng to MNG_LIBS which is updated in > > Makefile's with AC_SUBST(

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenLDAP 2.2 series

2005-05-19 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 09:40:48AM -0600, Jason Wever wrote: > >It shouldn't cause any problems for anybody that has OpenLDAP installed > >as a client only, but it's a bit bumpy for those that are running > >OpenLDAP servers. > > Before this package goes stable, I'd like to suggest that backwardly

[gentoo-dev] depgraphs of other archs for unsupported packages

2005-05-19 Thread Jonathan Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i asked this in #gentoo-dev, but didn't get much of an answer (partly due to being kicked off irc by a crappy wireless connection) in any case, i have an x86, and want to create depgraphs for other archs my first attempt was running this command (xzg

Re: [gentoo-dev] depgraphs of other archs for unsupported packages

2005-05-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 19 May 2005 07:49 pm, Jonathan Smith wrote: > i asked this in #gentoo-dev, but didn't get much of an answer (partly > due to being kicked off irc by a crappy wireless connection) you should ask this in #gentoo-portage -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 19 May 2005 04:44:25 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | http://www.firedrop.org.uk/devmanual/general-concepts/autotools/ Updated based upon the feedback, thanks guys. If someone who's relatively clueless about autotools could give it a read and let me know what is and isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-19 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 20/05/2005-06:06:21(+0100): Ciaran McCreesh types > On Thu, 19 May 2005 04:44:25 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | http://www.firedrop.org.uk/devmanual/general-concepts/autotools/ > > Updated based upon the feedback, thanks guys. If someone who's > relatively clueless

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide and Autotools

2005-05-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 May 2005 15:06:12 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | - The configure script is run to produce one or Makefile files | from Makefile.in files. | + The configure script is run to produce | one or more Makefile files from Makefile.in files. Gah! I'm