Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
On 6/28/05, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the current suggestion in the GLEP is the best we can > > achieve. Old moderators may take the quiz, new moderators must. Given > > enough time all old moderators may retire sooner or later and one day > > all active moderators wil

[gentoo-dev] Problems with gnupg 1.4.1 and PGP Global Directory

2005-06-27 Thread Gustavo Felisberto
The folks at pgp.com have this nice service https://keyserver1.pgp.com/vkd/GetWelcomeScreen.event where they perodicly send out prob emails to confirm that a e-mail adress is still alive. You can then have you key signed by them. To use these features one must have theire key in your local keyring.

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 23:55 +0200, Haas Wernfried wrote: > > > There is no way to force it on them and firing them is not an option. > > Why not? > You're not serious, are you? > These people have dedicated a lot of work to the forums and > Gentoo. They are doing a great job. Why fire them? You're

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 23:50 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote: > As far as I have read all these replies, I see nobody understood > anything at all about existing moderators. These people have done a > great job to the community and _NOBODY_ will push them around. If they > do not want to bcome staff,

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 14:22 -0700, Michael Curtis Napier wrote: > There already are two levels of Moderator. Global Moderators that have > access to the entire forum and forum specific Moderators that only have > access to one forum ie. the language forums (the arch specific forum > Mods are all of

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
On 6/27/05, Haas Wernfried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the current suggestion in the GLEP is the best we can > achieve. Old moderators may take the quiz, new moderators must. Given > enough time all old moderators may retire sooner or later and one day > all active moderators will be offic

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Haas Wernfried
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 05:19:18PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > If they do not speak the language well, I'm sure we can find someone to > translate the quiz and their answers between English and their native > tongue. Not an option, English is a requirement. See my previous mail. > As for unw

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
As far as I have read all these replies, I see nobody understood anything at all about existing moderators. These people have done a great job to the community and _NOBODY_ will push them around. If they do not want to bcome staff, they won't as simple as that. Get in the situation that because of

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 02:22:09PM -0700, Michael Curtis Napier wrote: > I have already taken the quiz in conjunction with another non-forum > project. You are correct, it was easy. /me checks his archives "... after a couple of tries." =) -- Documentation project leader - Gentoo Foundation

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 27 June 2005 23:20, Haas Wernfried wrote: > Imho not, according to Jan and Fernando it is. As said, i don't see a > real solution to this except accepting the fact some moderators won't > become official. Exactly that, Chris said exaclty what i meant. > We also had this idea at some poin

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 11:07:50PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Monday 27 June 2005 22:50, Haas Wernfried wrote: > > What would you suggest to do with the people > > that are either unable (because they don't speak English (well)) to > > take it or not willing to do it? > If they a

Re: [gentoo-dev] ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Drivers

2005-06-27 Thread Luca Barbato
Chris Frederick wrote: > > I'd be happy to help test. Is there any testing methodology that I > should follow? Or any specific application I should test, or xorg > config settings I should try? Just unmask and emerge the .13.4 driver as usual and use it as a standard ati-driver. If it works as

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Michael Curtis Napier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >I'll repeat myself, but I think that if you don't require current >moderators to pass the staffing quiz, you're against the point of >"Moderator as an authority". > >There are several possible solutions: >a) Require all the existing moderators to do the quiz in some time >

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Haas Wernfried
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 11:07:50PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Monday 27 June 2005 22:50, Haas Wernfried wrote: > > What would you suggest to do with the people > > that are either unable (because they don't speak English (well)) to > > take it or not willing to do it? > If they a

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 22:50 +0200, Haas Wernfried wrote: > > > a) Require all the existing moderators to do the quiz in some time > > > (months?). Please don't say that it is hard, I've done it myself ;-). > > > > Agreed 100%. I think current moderator should take the quiz so they can > > gain the

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 27 June 2005 22:50, Haas Wernfried wrote: > What would you suggest to do with the people > that are either unable (because they don't speak English (well)) to > take it or not willing to do it? If they aren't willing to take it... that's not a problem. For people who doesn't speak englis

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Haas Wernfried
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 10:31:04PM +0200, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 09:47:02PM +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote: > > There are several possible solutions: > > a) Require all the existing moderators to do the quiz in some time > > (months?). Please don't say that it is hard, I've d

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 09:47:02PM +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote: > Haas Wernfried wrote: > [...] > > Now would be a great time for everyone to read it and give us some > > feedback. > > I'll repeat myself, but I think that if you don't require current > moderators to pass the staffing quiz, you're ag

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Jan Kundrát
Haas Wernfried wrote: [...] > Now would be a great time for everyone to read it and give us some > feedback. I'll repeat myself, but I think that if you don't require current moderators to pass the staffing quiz, you're against the point of "Moderator as an authority". There are several possible

[gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-27 Thread Haas Wernfried
Hi, With reference to the recent thread about this GLEP's draft [1] we're resurrecting the discussion and would like keep you updated on the latest changes: 1) The term developer has been dropped and replaced by staff. ;-) 2) The GLEP is now listed on the GLEP page as GLEP 38 [2] as an official GLE

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Conference, August 12th in San Francisco

2005-06-27 Thread Corey Shields
Greetings! We're doing a developer conference the Friday after LWE. It should be a cool event, with plenty of meet-and-greet. Unfortunately we're limited to 30 seats, but Indiana University has stepped up to offer webcasting of the event (with archived video for those who can't catch it live)

Re: [gentoo-dev] ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Drivers

2005-06-27 Thread Chris Frederick
Luca Barbato wrote: Chris Frederick wrote: Hi all, I just noticed that ati released drivers for my Radeon Xpress card. I installed the drivers for Xorg, and it works great. But when I tried to install the kernel modules, I got a lot of error messages with the build. I know gentoo has the re

Re: [gentoo-dev] DBD-mysql select failures with MySQL 4.1

2005-06-27 Thread Michael Cummings
Take this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I'm just getting back from vacation, real responses delayed until we finish getting everything back in order at the house). First recommendation is of course, don't try to assign something to $_ directly, but maybe that's just my personal take (I'd have used anoth