[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo "Stable" Portage/Releases

2006-01-10 Thread Duncan
Andrew Muraco posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:57:43 -0500: > The method described here would also open up the oppurtunity for "fake" > enterprise trees, without having something to double check that the tree > that we have is indeed the one that is wanted, it w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stuart Herbert wrote: | Don't you think that maybe you're trying to bash square pegs into | round holes just for the sake of some sort of order that perhaps | doesn't actually benefit anyone at all? | | Where did the requirement that a herd has to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo "Stable" Portage/Releases

2006-01-10 Thread Andrew Muraco
Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Muraco wrote: | Another thing that I don't like, is the feel of this method does seem | "offical" enough.. mostly because portage is not 'stable'-aware, Its | just using a stripped down tree. What do you want then? If

[gentoo-dev] Re: packages without homepages

2006-01-10 Thread Duncan
Matthias Langer posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:08:31 +0100: > After reading the response for bug 118607, which i filed, i was woundering > if there isn't a more appropriate default procedure for packages with no > homepages then just leaving the invalid 'homep

[gentoo-dev] packages without homepages

2006-01-10 Thread Matthias Langer
After reading the response for bug 118607, which i filed, i was woundering if there isn't a more appropriate default procedure for packages with no homepages then just leaving the invalid 'homepage-link' alone ... Shouldn't there be a way to tell portage that a certain package simply doesn't have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Francesco Riosa
Lance Albertson wrote: > Aron Griffis wrote: >> Grant Goodyear wrote:[Tue Jan 10 2006, 11:09:15AM EST] >> >>> As an aside, it's ciarnanm has already put work in on developing an RST to >>> guidexml converter, so I wouldn't worry too much about RST not scaling. >> >> Could that be used dynam

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Lance Albertson
Aron Griffis wrote: > Grant Goodyear wrote: [Tue Jan 10 2006, 11:09:15AM EST] > >>As an aside, it's ciarnanm has already put work in on developing an RST to >>guidexml converter, so I wouldn't worry too much about RST not scaling. > > > Could that be used dynamically on the server? The last tim

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi Donnie, On 1/10/06, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > | I don't want to get into the habit of inconsistency and finding herds in > | two different locations. > > To clarify, add an "either" onto the end of t

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag - gs

2006-01-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 02:11, Lares Moreau wrote: > And as for the flag reflecting the capability, you are absolutely > correct. The urt package seems to have mislabelled the entry in > use.local.desc. not really ... urt uses ghostscript to add postscript capabilities, i just called it 'gs' b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Aron Griffis
Grant Goodyear wrote: [Tue Jan 10 2006, 11:09:15AM EST] > As an aside, it's ciarnanm has already put work in on developing an RST to > guidexml converter, so I wouldn't worry too much about RST not scaling. Could that be used dynamically on the server? The last time I was familiar with the gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

2006-01-10 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:24:57AM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Greg KH wrote: > | On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 10:27:46AM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > |>Where should people file bugs on this? > | > | > | To quote the einfo text that is shown when you install this kernel: > | This kernel is no

[gentoo-dev] Re: a plea for testing help

2006-01-10 Thread Duncan
Greg KH posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:21:06 -0800: > Well, it's not a Gentoo specific plea, but a Linux kernel plea. I've > created a new kernel tree, git-sources, that tracks the upstream > development kernel tree every day (not the raw git tree, but the ni

Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

2006-01-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg KH wrote: | On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 10:27:46AM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: |>Where should people file bugs on this? | | | To quote the einfo text that is shown when you install this kernel: | This kernel is not supported by Gentoo due to

Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

2006-01-10 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 10:27:46AM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Greg KH wrote: > | Well, it's not a Gentoo specific plea, but a Linux kernel plea. I've > | created a new kernel tree, git-sources, that tracks the upstream > | development kernel tree every day (not the raw git tree, but the night

Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

2006-01-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg KH wrote: | Well, it's not a Gentoo specific plea, but a Linux kernel plea. I've | created a new kernel tree, git-sources, that tracks the upstream | development kernel tree every day (not the raw git tree, but the nightly | snapshots of it.) |

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (news) Round Seven

2006-01-10 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:11:38 +: > News Item Directories > - > > Each news item will be represented by a directory whose name is the same > as the news item's identifier. > > The directory will contain a file na

[gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

2006-01-10 Thread Greg KH
Well, it's not a Gentoo specific plea, but a Linux kernel plea. I've created a new kernel tree, git-sources, that tracks the upstream development kernel tree every day (not the raw git tree, but the nightly snapshots of it.) If you want to help out with kernel development testing, please run thes

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (news) Round Seven

2006-01-10 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:11:38 +: > News Item Quality Control > - > [snip] > However, for the sake of clarity, professionalism and avoiding making us > look like prats, it is important that any language proble

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | I don't want to get into the habit of inconsistency and finding herds in | two different locations. To clarify, add an "either" onto the end of that. | Thanks, | Donnie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GN

Re: [gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-10 Thread Roy Marples
On Monday 09 January 2006 14:22, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 09 January 2006 07:32, Roy Marples wrote: > > It's been brought to my attention that dnsmasq and acpid use > > start-stop-daemon to send custom signals such as HUP. While this works > > with baselayout-1.11, it does not work with ba

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: | But herd != project. They are two distinct things. There are a couple of | cases where they both are the same, but others where it isn't. For | example, what project would netmon fit under? They aren't actively | trying to cre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: | Chris Gianelloni wrote: |>I think that would be a wonderful idea. What would we do about herds |>that are a project? Simply throw in a redirect under the herd name to |>the project name? |> | | | Unless they already reside i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: baselayout 1.12 and runlevel changes Was: init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-10 Thread Roy Marples
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 17:11, Duncan wrote: > So that means don't bother filing a bug, then, as you are already working > on it? The fix is already comitted to our svn repo. File a bug if it still doesn't work when baselayout-1.12.0_pre14 hits portage. Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTE

[gentoo-dev] Re: baselayout 1.12 and runlevel changes Was: init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-10 Thread Duncan
Roy Marples posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:31:21 +: > On Tuesday 10 January 2006 08:19, Duncan wrote: >> >> I've noticed that with baselayout-1.12 (not sure on <1.12 as I didn't >> notice it, tho that might mean it's new behavior), changing runlevels >> s

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag - gs

2006-01-10 Thread Lares Moreau
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 18:58 -0800, Drake Wyrm wrote: > Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > media-gfx/graphicsmagick:gs - enable ghostscript support > > media-gfx/imagemagick:gs - enable ghostscript support > > media-libs/urt:gs - Add support for postscript > > > > Looking in these ebuilds,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Lance Albertson wrote: [Tue Jan 10 2006, 12:00:03AM CST] > What if instead of having proj/en we did herd/en on www? Of course, that > doesn't help the whole "GuideXML is hard" bit. I like the idea of using > RST, but it doesn't seem very scalable at this time. Maybe, instead of > that, we created s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Michael Cummings
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 08:20 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > But herd != project. They are two distinct things. There are a couple of > cases where they both are the same, but others where it isn't. For > example, what project would netmon fit under? They aren't actively > trying to create a specifi

Re: [gentoo-dev] A New Linux Way

2006-01-10 Thread Brian Harring
Crap. Guess it's time to rename the portage rewrite branch (bugger, we were here first :P), especially since they're stating they'll have a saviour package manager... Think it's time to use my preferred name, bcportage- bastard child of portage ;) ~harring pgp81jtcXq0Tt.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] A New Linux Way

2006-01-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 07:49 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 03:40 +, Mark Stewart wrote: > > Please contact me if you are interested. > > I am interested in hearing more. Stupid Reply-To munging... Anyway, I'll let you guys know if there's anything actually worth heari

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Lance Albertson
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: > | I understand the block was lifted for projects, but that doesn't mean > | herds should all should fit underneath proj/. > > I agree. What I meant is that herds should be grouping together to form > new projects if they don't fit in an existing o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Lance Albertson
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 01:17 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>I understand the block was lifted for projects, but that doesn't mean >>herds should all should fit underneath proj/. I think we should open up >>a similar space just for herds. > > > I think that would be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Sven Vermeulen
Chris Gianelloni said: > Really, I think that the number of bugs the GDP gets is probably fairly > minimal for project-based documentation. Perhaps we could have > something added to the project dtd that adds a little blurb at the > bottom to file bugs for project documentation against the project

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 01:17 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > I understand the block was lifted for projects, but that doesn't mean > herds should all should fit underneath proj/. I think we should open up > a similar space just for herds. I think that would be a wonderful idea. What would we do ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 22:54 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Sven Vermeulen wrote: > | We have already received many bugs for documentation in /proj/* which is > | not GDPs. I had no issue with this as I hoped this would be a transient > | state w

Re: [gentoo-dev] A New Linux Way

2006-01-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 03:40 +, Mark Stewart wrote: > Please contact me if you are interested. I am interested in hearing more. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout 1.12 and runlevel changes Was: init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-10 Thread Roy Marples
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 08:19, Duncan wrote: > Roy Marples posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted > > below, on Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:32:32 +: > > baelayout-1.12 is a bit more strict about things. If you ask something to > > --stop it stops regardless. > > Creating a new subthread on a slightl

[gentoo-dev] virtual/os-headers and non-Linux

2006-01-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
I don't really know what was behind virtual/os-headers versus virtual/linux-headers or something like that. I'm currently considering that, as sometimes you need to depend on some version of linux headers, it might make sense to use a versioned virtual, but that would make no sense for Gentoo/Fr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Jan Kundrát
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Sven Vermeulen wrote: > | We have already received many bugs for documentation in /proj/* which is > | not GDPs. I had no issue with this as I hoped this would be a transient > | state where the documentation is eventually handed over to the GDP so > that > | both the proje

[gentoo-dev] Re: Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Duncan
Brian Harring posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Mon, 09 Jan 2006 09:29:15 -0800: > Where exactly did I ask for universal r/w? I've seen a lot of args > against this based upon "joe idiot will screw up the page". What I'm > after is non gentoo personnel capable of handling the do

[gentoo-dev] baselayout 1.12 and runlevel changes Was: init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-10 Thread Duncan
Roy Marples posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:32:32 +: > baelayout-1.12 is a bit more strict about things. If you ask something to > --stop it stops regardless. Creating a new subthread on a slightly different subtopic, tho still initscripts/baselayout. I'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: | Donnie Berkholz wrote: | |>Lance Albertson wrote: |>| What if instead of having proj/en we did herd/en on www? Of course, that |>| doesn't help the whole "GuideXML is hard" bit. I like the idea of using |>| RST, but it doesn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 01:17:06 -0600 Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Lance Albertson wrote: > > | What if instead of having proj/en we did herd/en on www? Of > > course, that | doesn't help the whole "GuideXML is hard" bit. I > > like the idea of using | RST,