Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on VMWare - few ideas

2006-03-05 Thread tuxp3
Well, for some time now, whenever I'm in windows I usually have VMWare running my Gentoo install, but the GUI never works.. but the only thing I need is deamon server processes (apache/samba) and I'm happy. Would like to have more info on getting X to work, but meh. (note, this is running a REAL g

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Glep 46 Draft: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2006-03-05 Thread Chris White
On Monday 06 March 2006 12:02, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Well, if we're having a list of valid remote-id type values in a file > somewhere, there's at least a vague argument that said file should be > XML. And since XML is supposedly compatible, said file should be > magically linked to the regular

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 0042 (news) final draft

2006-03-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 00:19:47 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Attached is the final draft. And now, attached is the final final draft. The only change in this version is to the behaviour of Display-If-Profile / `portageq profile_used` -- now, an exact profile equivalence is used.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Glep 46 Draft: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2006-03-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:04:19 +0900 Chris White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Monday 06 March 2006 09:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > XML people: is there a way of linking attribute="" values to stuff | > defined in another XML file that isn't going to make my face bleed? | | Can you expand on that

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Glep 46 Draft: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2006-03-05 Thread Chris White
On Monday 06 March 2006 09:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > XML people: is there a way of linking attribute="" values to stuff > defined in another XML file that isn't going to make my face bleed? Can you expand on that some more? What exactly would be accomplished through that? Chris White pgpkN

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Glep 46 Draft: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2006-03-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 01:48:19 + Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | regarding remote-id, while the GLEP doesn't and shouldn't contain a | definite list of types itself we should create/keep a definite list of | them in cvs or so, and the GLEP seems like the proper place to define | the loca

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Glep 46 Draft: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2006-03-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 15:29:58 -0300 "Marcelo Góes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I am basically mailing this new draft on behalf of Ciaran, I just > ok'd it :-). Please read and comment. general comment: Maybe this is an imlementation thing, but it would be good to list the actual DTD fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on VMWare - few ideas

2006-03-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:32:55 +0900 Kalin KOZHUHAROV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is it worth: > For windoze people it will be a great way to experience/play > with Gentoo Where is the big difference to booting a livecd in vmware? Ok, you can write to the disk (image), but I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 0042 (news) final draft

2006-03-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 01:09:58 + Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Hm, that one needs clarifying. Do we even want it to be based upon | > inherit path rather than filesystem path? | | If this is intended to replace deprected files one day I think we want | (implementation isn't the prob

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 0042 (news) final draft

2006-03-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:05:35 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 05:20:06 + Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | "* Portage must extend portageq to implement a command which > | returns whether or not the profile used for a given repository ID > | matc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 05 March 2006 17:38, MIkey wrote: > Ferris McCormick wrote: > > I hesitate to raise my head again, but why not use > > FEATURES='-noman' emerge ... > > > > (FEATURES='-noman -noinfo -nodoc' USE='doc' emerge ... > > for that matter.)? > > > > I use that sort of thing for, say, > > FEATURES

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on VMWare - few ideas

2006-03-05 Thread José Carlos Cruz Costa
Coincidence, installed Gentoo on a WinXP VMWare today and I use VMWare it at work.The only difference is that you don't need all the livecd drivers.Maybe an doc for the specific installation is sufficient with a working kernel-config just like in the gentoo-wiki but an official one. Oh yeah... and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on VMWare - few ideas

2006-03-05 Thread Jose Alberto Suarez Lopez
I think that it's a nice idea. Maybe 2 versions: with X and w/o X just to reduce the space needed. Can be great to try gentoo inside any other linux or win machine. Can be great too to try new systems ebuilds or to test things. El 04/03/2006, a las 8:32, Kalin KOZHUHAROV escribió: Hi all,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread John Mylchreest
OK sorry, all those Re:'s were really getting to me :) -- Role:Gentoo Linux Kernel Lead Gentoo Linux:http://www.gentoo.org Public Key: gpg --recv-keys 9C745515 Key fingerprint: A0AF F3C8 D699 A05A EC5C 24F7 95AA 241D 9C74 5515 pgpZltaagIJyM.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread MIkey
Ferris McCormick wrote: > I hesitate to raise my head again, but why not use > FEATURES='-noman' emerge ... > > (FEATURES='-noman -noinfo -nodoc' USE='doc' emerge ... > for that matter.)? > > I use that sort of thing for, say, > FEATURES='-distcc ccache' MAKEOPTS='-j2'emerge ... > on some specif

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread Edward Catmur
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 14:35 -0600, MIkey wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > Regardless, I would rather see noman/nodoc/noinfo implemented in USE flags, > so they can be applied package by package, implemented perhaps in something > like dodoc/doman/doinfo/dohtml. In some cases I might actually want

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, MIkey wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: Heh heh, same place as FEATURES="noinfo noman nodoc" ;) not really ... those are documented in make.conf -mike I have a nasty habit of always looking at make.conf.example instead of the ma

[gentoo-dev] beep-media-player removed: 05/03/2006

2006-03-05 Thread Tony Vroon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good evening, Please note that beep-media-player and accompanying plugin packages have been removed from the portage tree on March 5, 2006. This had been announced on the gentoo-dev & sound mailing lists prior to it being masked on February 18, 2006.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread MIkey
Mike Frysinger wrote: >> Heh heh, same place as FEATURES="noinfo noman nodoc" ;) > > not really ... those are documented in make.conf > -mike I have a nasty habit of always looking at make.conf.example instead of the man page. Plus, er, uh, I used FEATURES="noman" ;) Yeah, thats my story and I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 05 March 2006 14:53, MIkey wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> > Then you should use INSTALL_MASK, not a USE flag. > >> > >> Please excuse my ignorance, but where is INSTALL_MASK documented? > > > > nowhere of consequence > > Heh heh, same place as FEATURES="noinfo noman nodoc" ;) not re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread Jan Kundrát
MIkey wrote: > Please excuse my ignorance, but where is INSTALL_MASK implemented? ebuild.sh -- cd /local/pub && more beer > /dev/mouth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread MIkey
Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > Then you should use INSTALL_MASK, not a USE flag. >> >> Please excuse my ignorance, but where is INSTALL_MASK documented? > > nowhere of consequence > -mike Heh heh, same place as FEATURES="noinfo noman nodoc" ;) Let me ask it this way. Please excuse my ignorance, bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 04 March 2006 13:18, MIkey wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:04:11 -0600 MIkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | At my job we aim to eventually rid ourselves completely of MS > > | products on several thousand (local and remote) desktops and replace > > | them wi

[gentoo-dev] New Glep 46 Draft: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2006-03-05 Thread Marcelo Góes
Hello, I am basically mailing this new draft on behalf of Ciaran, I just ok'd it :-). Please read and comment. Cheers, Marcelo -- Marcelo Góes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GLEP: 46 Title: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml Version: $Revision: 1.1 $ Last-Modified: $Date: 2005/12/27 00:26:5

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 14:16 +0100, Patrick Börjesson wrote: [snip] > It seems that INSTALL_MASK works only at merge time, so that if you > build a package at one machine (with INSTALL_MASK set to f.ex. > /usr/share/doc) and install it on the same machine, you get the expected > behaviour. But the

[gentoo-dev] PPC Meeting Reminder and Agenda

2006-03-05 Thread Chris White
Hi everyone, Here's a quick reminder on the ppc meeting scheduled for today, Sunday March 5th 2006 (I'm 22 btw ;p) at 20:00UTC. As of this writing, that's about 5 hours away. Here's a look at the agenda: 1) The 2006.0 Release 2) Leadership 3) Genesi/Freescale/IBM Developer Programs 4) GCC 4.1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-05 Thread Patrick Börjesson
On 2006-03-04 20:47, Ferris McCormick uttered these thoughts: > On Sat, 4 Mar 2006, MIkey wrote: > > > Ferris McCormick wrote: > > > >> I misinterpreted what you wrote. I thought you meant "physically included > >> in the package," not "installed from a binary package." I just completely > >> re