[gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-08 Thread Molle Bestefich
Richard Fish writes: Unfortunately the Gentoo dev's have taken the rather unusual step of _breaking the tree_ due to a security problem. Thanks for the info. I would really wish that there was some mechanism in place to make sure that the tree was never broken. The current situation is very a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-08 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 09 July 2006 01:10, Duncan wrote: > An interesting observation was that of all the FLOSS projects, perhaps > only Debian had successfully crossed the line from "medium" to "large". > It does seem common around here to criticise them for constant politics > and being almost stuck, sometime

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-08 Thread Duncan
Marco Matthies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:14:11 +0200: > Alin Nastac wrote: >> Until a year ago, the number of active devs was linearly rising, but in >> last year we seem to hit a ceil (175) > > Was it on planet.g.o where i read somethi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Luis Medinas
On Sun, 2006-07-09 at 00:15 +0200, Lars Weiler wrote: > * Ryan Tandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/07/08 15:07 -0700]: > > Oh, I see - you don't care *what* you remove, you're just itching to remove > > *something*! ;) > > Yes. Because I don't want to maintain that old crap any > more. If metalgod wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Lars Weiler
* Ryan Tandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/07/08 15:07 -0700]: > Oh, I see - you don't care *what* you remove, you're just itching to remove > *something*! ;) Yes. Because I don't want to maintain that old crap any more. If metalgod wants to do it, I'm fine with that ;) And now let us move on and ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Ryan Tandy
Luis Medinas wrote: I've talked with Lars we will keep xcdroast for a bit. Instead we will remove simplecdrx that i will mask now. The upstream is dead for years and there's not need to keep it. Oh, I see - you don't care *what* you remove, you're just itching to remove *something*! ;) (muc

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-gfx/fbi

2006-07-08 Thread Michal Januszewski
Hello, I have just added media-gfx/fbi to package.mask and will remove it from the tree in about 30 days. The program is no longer developed upstream in its original form. Instead, it is now a part of the 'fbida' project, which provides a bunch of simple applications for viewing and editing imag

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Jakub Moc
Harald van Dijk wrote: >> If the stubs were to be just removed say tomorrow, and breakage in the >> tree is still of such an extend that bugs starts to flood in again, its >> not just you that will have to read the mail. If the user is clueless, >> then Jakub have to reassign the bug to either too

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Peter Gordon
Philip Webb wrote: Peter Gordon wrote: It depends on cdrecord-prodvd Not on my system (which I just eix-synced): I have a working Xcdroast, but have never had Cdrecord-prodvd; no, I don't have a DVD writer (yet). Mea culpa. I didn't realize that it had been changed from this. Thanks. -- Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Philip Webb
060708 Peter Gordon wrote: > Philip Webb wrote: >> Please keep Xcdroast in Portage: I use it & it has no bugs AFAIK. > It depends on cdrecord-prodvd Not on my system (which I just eix-synced): I have a working Xcdroast, but have never had Cdrecord-prodvd; no, I don't have a DVD writer (yet). >> B

[gentoo-dev] [ALERT] USE flag changes

2006-07-08 Thread Doug Goldstein
I'm touching ebuilds that IUSE="tcltk", just like I did with IUSE="qt". tcltk is being broken into "tcl" and "tk" USE flags... finally.. it was something that needed to happen ages ago but I'm finally getting around to it. So this is your notice. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17808

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Peter Gordon
Philip Webb wrote: Please keep Xcdroast in Portage: I use it & it has no bugs AFAIK. It depends on cdrecord-prodvd, which means that it will have to be converted to use the new cdrtools if it's to continue being useful since cdrecord-prodvd is being masked (and some time thereafter, removed).

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Harald van Dijk
(Not commenting on the whole message, just parts.) On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 03:46:24PM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > You can however fix the tree to make sure it will fully build without > those flags, and then talk to Mike again about removing them. I am sure > he might be more willing if it w

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding CPUFLAGS USE_EXPAND variable to the profiles

2006-07-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:50:47 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | and i was saying in the namespaced solution you wouldnt need to | use.mask things because $ARCH_CPU_FEATURES would be set by users in | the make.conf ... if they go setting $WRONGARCH_CPU_FEATURES in | make.conf, well i s

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding CPUFLAGS USE_EXPAND variable to the profiles

2006-07-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 07 July 2006 19:43, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 18:36:00 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | > | > It'd also make handling use masking much easier. > | > | > | > | why ? because there wouldnt be anything to mask ? > | > > | > I'm pretty sure that USE_EXPAND has t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Lars Weiler
* Roy Bamford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/07/08 14:57 +0100]: > My mistake - sorry for wasting your time. app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools provides the > format command. sys-fs/udftools provides the file system for the formatted > DVD+RW. No problem. And we will kepp dvd+rw-tools for sure. Regards, Lars -- L

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2006-07-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 01 July 2006 03:34, Mike Frysinger wrote: > This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the > 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) ! we're pushing this to the 3rd due to it being a better time for some of us (blame

[gentoo-dev] open Sunrise concerns

2006-07-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 03 July 2006 15:41, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > Even if they have changed their minds about this, I think it is too > early to re-evaluate the project for inclusion. so are you going to offer up some of your complaints so they can be addressed ? the sunrise guys have pretty clearly s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2006.07.08 13:59, Lars Weiler wrote: * Roy Bamford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/07/08 12:46 +0100]: > app-cdr/dvdrtools provides the format utility to format DVD+RW media prior to > mkudffs on them. Where has that functionality gone ? I can't find any 'format' option to dvdrecord. But probably yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Philip Webb
060708 Lars Weiler wrote: > I would like to remove those packages from portage: > app-cdr/xcdroast: A nice rustical application, > which reminds me to my first CD-burnings on Linux. > But there was no upstream update within 2,5 years. > Also there are now a lot of other gtk2-based applications > wh

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 08 July 2006 02:20, Harald van Dijk wrote: > I also mentioned it in a bugzilla comment, though admittedly not as a > question there. (The gcc 2 bug, I think.) Bugzilla comments are safe to > assume read, right? the gcc2 bug has a lot of things in there i need to review/merge so it's in

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 13:51 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 11:27:57AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 08:20 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 07:50:27PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > On Friday 07 July 2006 19:04, Haral

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Lars Weiler
* Luis Medinas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/07/08 13:33 +0100]: > I've talked with Lars we will keep xcdroast for a bit. Instead we will > remove simplecdrx that i will mask now. The upstream is dead for years > and there's not need to keep it. But we keep xcdroast only when you patch it, so that it do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Lars Weiler
* Roy Bamford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/07/08 12:46 +0100]: > app-cdr/dvdrtools provides the format utility to format DVD+RW media prior to > mkudffs on them. Where has that functionality gone ? I can't find any 'format' option to dvdrecord. But probably you want cdrwtool from sys-fs/udftools? Re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Luis Medinas
On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 14:11 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 13:09:29 +0200 > Lars Weiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > app-cdr/xcdroast: A nice rustical application, which reminds > > me to my first CD-burnings on Linux... But there was no > > upstream update within 2,5 y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 13:09:29 +0200 > Lars Weiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> app-cdr/xcdroast: A nice rustical application, which reminds >> me to my first CD-burnings on Linux... But there was no >> upstream update wit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-08 Thread Marco Matthies
Alin Nastac wrote: I find "active devs" metric a useful one.Until a year ago, the number of active devs was linearly rising, but in last year we seem to hit a ceil (175) - either recruiter team is understaffed or our organization reached the maximum number of individuals who can work together wit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 13:09:29 +0200 Lars Weiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > app-cdr/xcdroast: A nice rustical application, which reminds > me to my first CD-burnings on Linux... But there was no > upstream update within 2,5 years. Also there are now a > lot of other gtk2-based applications

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 11:27:57AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 08:20 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 07:50:27PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Friday 07 July 2006 19:04, Harald van Dijk wrote: > > > > the ssp/pie/htb patches have their own

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2006.07.08 12:09, Lars Weiler wrote: Hello, I would like to remove those packages from portage: app-cdr/cdrecord-prodvd: Functionality of DVD-burning is now officially included in app-cdr/cdrtools. app-cdr/dvdrtools: Same reason. No need to use this fork of cdrtools-1.11... [snip] Al

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Ned Ludd
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 23:09 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 03:57:51PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 20:40 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:55:03PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: > > > > Keep pushing this and the only thing you will end

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Ned Ludd
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 15:18 -0500, Tushar Teredesai wrote: > On 7/7/06, Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You want a pure 100% > > vanilla(POS) non working toolchain then go download it and > > compile it yourself. You will soon see why things exist the way > > they do.. > > LFS

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-08 Thread Lars Weiler
Hello, I would like to remove those packages from portage: app-cdr/cdrecord-prodvd: Functionality of DVD-burning is now officially included in app-cdr/cdrtools. app-cdr/dvdrtools: Same reason. No need to use this fork of cdrtools-1.11... virtual/cdrtools: With the remove of dvdrtools there i

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-08 Thread Duncan
Alexandre Buisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:30:45 +0200: > Encouraged by this email and hoping that it is ok to do so, I will > nominate myself. Now you gotta post a reply, accepting (or declining ) the nomination! =8^) -- Duncan - Lis

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 08:20 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 07:50:27PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Friday 07 July 2006 19:04, Harald van Dijk wrote: > > the ssp/pie/htb patches have their own USE flags so separating them from > > USE=vanilla makes perfect sense ... >