[gentoo-dev] firefox-2.0

2006-10-28 Thread Michal Kurgan
Hello! Recently new firefox-2.0 was released. I (and probably many other users) am interested when this new version would be unmasked and stabilized. If there are any problems, what are they and what to expect if i would force installation now? Is there any roadmap or timeline for stabilization al

Re: [gentoo-dev] The (lack of) use of herds

2006-10-28 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 29 October 2006 01:26, Marius Mauch wrote: So if now you're on a herd alias but not listed in herds.xml for a herd, what practical difference does it make if the herd exists or not? huh ? -mike I think one of his points is that you still get the bugmail...I gu

Re: [gentoo-dev] The (lack of) use of herds

2006-10-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 29 October 2006 01:26, Marius Mauch wrote: > So if now you're on a herd alias but not listed in herds.xml for a herd, > what practical difference does it make if the herd exists or not? huh ? -mike pgpmO3uG0vGTB.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] The (lack of) use of herds

2006-10-28 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 23:00:04 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 28 October 2006 22:43, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Well, I'd go further and question the whole herd concept. What > > benefits do we actually gain by having "herds"? For the most part > > it's just a way to asso

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Global USE flags (Was: mplayer global use flag)

2006-10-28 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 29/10/2006-05:26:52(+0200): Mart Raudsepp types > > The main problem in my eyes here is that with certain USE flags, the > description doesn't really convey what the user will get. > Many are in the form of "adds support for this optional thing" instead > of "by using this optional depend

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Global USE flags (Was: mplayer global use flag)

2006-10-28 Thread Caleb Cushing
And that's the problem - the user doesn't know what benefit will it bring her to use or not use a global USE flag for this particular package. yeah and it would be really nice to know these. I just thought of another useful feature. a flag for emerge that assumes --verbose but defines what the

Re: [gentoo-dev] The (lack of) use of herds

2006-10-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 28 October 2006 22:43, Marius Mauch wrote: > Well, I'd go further and question the whole herd concept. What benefits > do we actually gain by having "herds"? For the most part it's just a > way to associate a package with a mail alias, but for that I don't > really see the need for this

[gentoo-dev] qadeps(?) - useful(?) tool for deps qa

2006-10-28 Thread Piotr JaroszyƄski
Hello, I had a timezone change today, which gave me a free hour of life, so of course I had to do something for gentoo :] Ok, no more pink elephants... Current qadeps features: - Checks whether runtime deps of installed package are all set. The check is going LEVEL-deep, where LEVEL

[gentoo-dev] Treecleaner SMASH

2006-10-28 Thread Alec Warner
# Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (28 Oct 2006) # Mask the following packages for removal by treecleaners: # app-emulation/uae for bug(s) 153191, 112675, 140707, 137018 # app-laptop/xpmumon for bug(s) 153198, 112675, 117782 # media-gfx/radiance for bug(s) 106158, 112675 # net-mail/cvm-vmailmgr for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Global USE flags (Was: mplayer global use flag)

2006-10-28 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Sat, 2006-10-28 at 17:12 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > Caleb Cushing wrote: > >> > >> cairo and openexr, good idea, AFAIK. udev has come up before but from > >> that discussion, the flag means slightly different things in some cases. > >> Keeping it local allows individual per-pkg descriptions, s

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-28 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:09:10 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It doesn't cover updates/. I don't think that corner case is easily > covered. Ehm, if you have a list of CP entries that were added/removed and access to the update files it shouldn't be all that complicated. Just mad

Re: [gentoo-dev] The (lack of) use of herds

2006-10-28 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:46:30 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I request that this tag be made optional in the metadata.xml DTD. > > While ideally it is beneficial to have every package in a herd, in > practice this doesn't occur. > > 22:28 <@omp> $ herdstat -pq no-herd | wc -l > 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-28 Thread Alec Warner
Yuri Vasilevski wrote: Hi, On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 19:58:09 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:42:14 +0200 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Someone needs to implement the foo; however. | | (Not on cvs, but on a normal tree, but maybe works on cvs.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-28 Thread Yuri Vasilevski
Hi, On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 19:58:09 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:42:14 +0200 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | > Someone needs to implement the foo; however. > | > | (Not on cvs, but on a normal tree, but maybe works on cvs. There is > a |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Global USE flags (Was: mplayer global use flag)

2006-10-28 Thread Alec Warner
Caleb Cushing wrote: cairo and openexr, good idea, AFAIK. udev has come up before but from that discussion, the flag means slightly different things in some cases. Keeping it local allows individual per-pkg descriptions, so where it means something different, the description can say so. In b

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-28 Thread Alec Warner
Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Thursday 26 October 2006 00:57, Alec Warner wrote: Caleb Cushing wrote: reporting additions of new programs aren't feasible? or are you referring to version updates and package bumps and such Reporting removals will be done by treecleaners once I have it implemente

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Global USE flags (Was: mplayer global use flag)

2006-10-28 Thread Caleb Cushing
cairo and openexr, good idea, AFAIK. udev has come up before but from that discussion, the flag means slightly different things in some cases. Keeping it local allows individual per-pkg descriptions, so where it means something different, the description can say so. In both meanings, udev defau

[gentoo-dev] Re: Global USE flags (Was: mplayer global use flag)

2006-10-28 Thread Duncan
arfrever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:23:50 +0200: > In connection with latest globalization of mplayer USE flag I would like > to ask for globalizing cairo, openexr and udev USE flags. These flags are > used by enough amount of packages. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:42:14 +0200 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Someone needs to implement the foo; however. | | (Not on cvs, but on a normal tree, but maybe works on cvs. There is a | sanity check by checking that a dir contains at least 1 ebuild) If the foo were that simple, so

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Dreaded herd tag

2006-10-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Saturday 28 October 2006 08:11, George Shapovalov wrote: > Which is exactly why these are disallowed. Or at least that was the > original intention, which (unfortunately) was not enforced strong enough. > But then, given that we started with *no herds at all*, I don't see how it > would be poss

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 26 October 2006 00:57, Alec Warner wrote: > Caleb Cushing wrote: > > reporting additions of new programs aren't feasible? or are you > > referring to version updates and package bumps and such > > Reporting removals will be done by treecleaners once I have it implemented. > > Report

Re: [gentoo-dev] Scheme herd team needs some love

2006-10-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Matthew Kennedy wrote: > No one is working on the Scheme herd in Gentoo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > includes only me, but I'm not doing anything with Scheme and don't > really care to either. > > Several of our Scheme implementations in Portage are out of date, > (chicken, gambit, drscheme, bigloo and,

[gentoo-dev] Re: Global USE flags (Was: mplayer global use flag)

2006-10-28 Thread arfrever
In connection with latest globalization of mplayer USE flag I would like to ask for globalizing cairo, openexr and udev USE flags. These flags are used by enough amount of packages. cairo - 11 packages openexr - 10 packages udev - 7 packages Each of these USE flags is used by bigger amount of pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Christian Faulhammer (opfer)

2006-10-28 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Am Freitag, den 27.10.2006, 22:32 +0200 schrieb Christian Heim: > Christian is currently studying mechanical engineering at the RWTH Aachen > (that's in Germany!) and has been an arch tester for the x86-herd for quite > some time - that's about 3 months. Welcome aboard, Christian! See you at LW

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Christian Faulhammer (opfer)

2006-10-28 Thread Ryan Hill
Christian Heim wrote: > Its my pleasure to introduce to you Christian Faulhammer (also known as > opfer), our latest addition helping with xemacs and the x86 monkeys. Woo hoo! :D -- by design, by neglect [EMAIL PROTECTED]for a fact or just for

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Dreaded herd tag

2006-10-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 28 October 2006 02:46, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 08:11:37AM +0200, George Shapovalov wrote: > > One of the reasons herds were introduced was to explicitly see what > > packages lack maintenance. It is possible for the ebuild to be in the > > herd, but be supporte