Hi all,
as nattfodd and ehmsen won't be working on TeX for Gentoo anymore, we
need one or more new maintainer/s. Primary goal is to bring a working
ebuild of TeXLive 2007 into Portage, as the current used and working
one (teTeX) is dead upstream. There is an effort of a user [1] which
could be
Stephen Bennett wrote:
OK, but it appears that PMS is not hosted on Gentoo infrastructure,
and its development is not controlled by Gentoo. Therefore it is not a
Gentoo project, and therefore the Council, QA, etc. should not be
treating it if it is a Gentoo project.
It's controlled by me,
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The EAPI=0 document was supposed to be a QA project. What it is now,
I have no idea.
A QA subproject which has not yet released a public draft.
And it doesn't concern you that after x months, Chris had no idea what it
was?
Stephen Bennett wrote:
On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:58:30 -0800 (PST)
Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So you are saying you cannot see Daniel's point of view at all? That
Gentoo should perhaps have input on a specification whose goal is to
essentially define what a Gentoo Package Manager
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Thing I don't understand is why spb took it on when he knew he was
going to be out of commission with his Uni.
I'm not out of commission. PMS is simply not at the top of my list of
priorities at the moment.
Um I'm guessing that since you're at Uni, you knew you'd be
Stephen Bennett wrote:
To co-lead a Gentoo project? You need to be a dev to do that. I
couldn't join any projects even as a member until I became a dev, and
I created the distro. You are effectively co-leading (likely leading)
PMS as a non-dev - worse than that, as someone who has been
Daniel Robbins wrote:
On 3/4/07, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you've managed to launch groundless attacks against
me, a whole bunch of other Gentoo developers, the Council, the
Foundation and devrel.
Well, I think it's a good thing to question whether the Council, the
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Paludis is not a Gentoo project. There is no disagreement there. This
discussion is about PMS, not Paludis.
Yes dear.
snip some crap about the glory days
Also note that the traditional open up discussions and source to
everyone straight away alternative to eselect
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:53:10 +
Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Um I'm guessing that since you're at Uni, you knew you'd be in this
situation at this stage of your course. I wonder at how someone
clearly so gifted could have overlooked that matter when undertaking
such a vital project.
Steve Long wrote: [Mon Mar 12 2007, 12:51:17PM CDT]
Stephen Bennett wrote:
On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:58:30 -0800 (PST)
Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And if we didn't give a d*mn about such a distinction? IOW if you were
discussing this technically, instead of /politically/ *shock
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:00:09 +
Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes so in a /technical/ sense he's the lead. You defer to his greater
knowledge. Or are you more political than technical?
Nowhere did I say anything of the sort. Stop jumping to conclusions
based on incorrect assumptions
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:53:10 + Steve Long
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Thing I don't understand is why spb took it on when he knew he was
going to be out of commission with his Uni.
I'm not out of commission. PMS is simply not at the top of my list
of priorities
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:46:41 +
Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Except it's one that needs Paludis ready before it can be considered
complete. /me thinks are they really that clever? /me remembers
ciaranm's incredibly smart posts from ~2 years ago when he couldn't
stand being treated
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:46:41 + Steve Long
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The EAPI=0 document was supposed to be a QA project. What it is
now, I have no idea.
A QA subproject which has not yet released a public draft.
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
My own rules for netiquette are very simple: Always be parliamentary;
never be personal; have a point to make; know when to stop.
'Parliamentary' means 'follow the rules for MPs in Ottawa or
Westminster'.
If you think that anything anyone's said in here isn't
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Erm, to be precise here, noone has removed any ciaranm's attributions
from devmanual, they've all been moved to the end of the document
originally, so that people wouldn't be forced to scroll across one
page worth of contributors to get to the actual content of
Seemant Kulleen wrote:
Grow up.
SKulleen+=10 :P
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:57:09 +
Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And if you think the way you have carried on is anything approaching
decent, you clearly haven't read the guidelines... Can we stop now
please?
Based on a cursory view of my gentoo-dev folder, we had stopped for a
good
Christian Faulhammer wrote:
[TeX stuff]
Along with this, if anyone wants to take a look at bug 118405[1], the
GDP could really use the help, especially since it was nattfodd who
first requested a TeX document in the first place. It's been sitting
there for a long time now, so unless someone
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Yes so in a /technical/ sense he's the lead. You defer to his greater
knowledge. Or are you more political than technical?
Nowhere did I say anything of the sort. Stop jumping to conclusions
based on incorrect assumptions and incomplete information.
..or indeed your
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Based on a cursory view of my gentoo-dev folder, we had stopped for a
good five days until earlier today.
Guess what sunshine? It's not just about you:
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070312#future
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On 12/03/07, Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Please. This thread is *over*. No-one wants to play anymore.
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:35:03 +
Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guess what sunshine? It's not just about you:
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070312#future
The only possible conclusion I can see to draw from this post is that
because distrowatch posts an uninformed article
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Oh, and bashing ciaranm doesn't make you cool.
Yeah and nor does sucking him off.
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Stephen Bennett wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:57:09 +
Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And if you think the way you have carried on is anything approaching
decent, you clearly haven't read the guidelines... Can we stop now
please?
Based on a cursory view of my gentoo-dev folder,
On Monday 12 March 2007, Steve Long wrote:
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Oh, and bashing ciaranm doesn't make you cool.
Yeah and nor does sucking him off.
seriously, stop it
if you want to flame, take it off list
-mike
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Stephen Bennett wrote:
The only possible conclusion I can see to draw from this post is that
because distrowatch posts an uninformed article about how Gentoo is
dying, you need to drag up a dead thread for no apparent reason. Please
enlighten me if there's something I missed.
You seem to have
On 12/03/07, Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Oh, and bashing ciaranm doesn't make you cool.
Yeah and nor does sucking him off.
I wonder if the manglement at eclipse.co.uk would be pleased about the
impression of your company you're given when you post things like
Charlie Shepherd napisał(a):
On 12/03/07, Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Please. This thread is *over*. No-one wants to play anymore.
Yeah, let's back to work guys.
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:53:35 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Besides, the article isnt that uninformed. Contrary, it quite clearly
represents how users currently percieve the situation.
(Again, this is subjective. FFtF, Feel Free to Flame)
If users feel that way, it's because they're reading
Steve Long wrote:
Oh no of course not. Paludis is in fact being led in the most appropriate
political fashion, rather than the best technical approach for the job.
Dear Steve,
this is a formal request from an ordinary Gentoo developer who has
already emailed you privately several times asking
On 12/03/07, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this thread is dead,
If only...
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On 2007/03/12, Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you really that dense?
http://tdegreni.free.fr/slong.png
Seriously, no need to even read this emails to guess who is
being dense today.
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please dont use the `which` program in your ebuilds ... this thing isnt even
close to having standard behavior out there plus people can unmerge it :)
instead, since we require bash for our ebuilds, use the builtin `type -p` ...
here's some easy examples:
-if which foo 2/dev/null ; then
+if
On Monday 12 March 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote:
instead, since we require bash for our ebuilds, use the builtin `type -p`
err i botched that ;)
`type -p` is almost a complete drop in replacement for which ... it does not
work on bash builtins however, so people should use `type -P` to force the
On 2007/03/12, Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matches `which
...
And matches $(which
...
Also there are some occurences in eclasses:
./eclass/enlightenment.eclass:
cp $(which gettextize) ${T}/ || die could not copy gettextize
./eclass/fortran.eclass:
elif [ -x $(which ifc 2
Am Dienstag, 13. März 2007 00:36 schrieb Ned Ludd:
instead, since we require bash for our ebuilds, use the builtin
`type -p`
err i botched that ;)
`type -p` is almost a complete drop in replacement for which ... it
does not work on bash builtins however, so people should use `type
Am Dienstag, 13. März 2007 01:14 schrieb Thomas de Grenier de Latour:
On 2007/03/12, Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matches `which
...
And matches $(which
...
Also there are some occurences in eclasses:
./eclass/fortran.eclass:
elif [ -x $(which ifc 2 /dev/null) ]; then
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:14:54 +0100
Thomas de Grenier de Latour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also there are some occurences in eclasses:
./eclass/vim-doc.eclass:
vim=$(which vim 2/dev/null)
./eclass/vim-doc.eclass:
[[ -z $vim ]] vim=$(which gvim 2/dev/null)
./eclass/vim-doc.eclass:
The Gentoo Java Team held their March meeting this past weekend. At
which time a new team lead was elected.
Petteri Räty ( betelgeuse ) was unanimously elected as the new Java Team
Lead, taking the place of Joshua Nichols ( nichoj ). Josh has done an
excellent job over the past year or so.
On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 16:36 -0700, Ned Ludd wrote:
games-emulation/advancemame/advancemame-0.104.0.ebuild:35:
games-emulation/advancemame/advancemame-0.104.0.ebuild:37:
games-emulation/advancemame/advancemame-0.104.0.ebuild:39:
games-emulation/advancemame/advancemame-0.106.0.ebuild:40:
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 12 Mar
2007 15:54:49 -0400:
On Monday 12 March 2007, Steve Long wrote:
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Oh, and bashing ciaranm doesn't make you cool.
Yeah and nor does sucking him off.
seriously, stop it
if
Hiya all,
As some of you are already aware, I was at the last Council meeting
given a Task. This Task was to draft a proposed Code of Conduct for
Gentoo, and a scheme for enforcing it. The current version of this
proposal can be found at http://dev.gentoo.org/~christel/coc.xml
comments and
Hello
My name is Lara Thynne and I am a PhD candidate at Deakin University
Australia. I am currently researching the boundary between work and
leisure activities directly related to the open source community and
open source program development.
As part of this I am running a survey at the
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
Hiya all,
As some of you are already aware, I was at the last Council meeting
given a Task. This Task was to draft a proposed Code of Conduct for
Gentoo, and a scheme for enforcing it. The current version of this
proposal can be found at
Mike Bonar wrote:
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
Hiya all,
As some of you are already aware, I was at the last Council meeting
given a Task. This Task was to draft a proposed Code of Conduct for
Gentoo, and a scheme for enforcing it. The current version of this
proposal can be found at
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:36:03 -0700
Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And matches $(which
x11-misc/xoo/xoo-0.7.ebuild:25:
Fixed.
Best wishes,
Yuri.
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Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
Hiya all,
As some of you are already aware, I was at the last Council meeting
given a Task. This Task was to draft a proposed Code of Conduct for
Gentoo, and a scheme for enforcing it. The current version of this
proposal can be found at
Ned Ludd wrote:
On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 19:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Monday 12 March 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote:
instead, since we require bash for our ebuilds, use the builtin `type -p`
`type -p` is almost a complete drop in replacement for which ... it does not
work on bash
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