Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-28 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 17:11 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: If there are no objections then I don't so any reason not to go ahead and add the manifest1_obsolete sometime in the near future. Thoughts? Let's do it. I look forward to a lot less inodes on my disks. Let's schedule

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-28 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le dimanche 27 janvier 2008 à 17:44 -0800, Chris Gianelloni a écrit : On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 17:11 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: If there are no objections then I don't so any reason not to go ahead and add the manifest1_obsolete sometime in the near future. Thoughts? Let's do it. I look

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-28 Thread Rémi Cardona
Zac Medico a écrit : Robin H. Johnson wrote: Related to the top level of the tree, can we get a release of repoman that detects if a checkout is a subset only (eg no top level), for folk that have subtree checkouts only? (Probably look for skel.*/profile items two levels up). I think we

[gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils and integrated straight into coreutils, perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone. current debianutils is part of system and provides: - installkernel - run-parts - tempfile - savelog - mkboot do people

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-28 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Jan 28, 2008 2:44 AM, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think throwing up an announcement today/tomorrow for Thursday/Friday should be sufficient for this sort of a change, as it won't affect any user who has a version of portage released in the past ~1.5 years. +1, too. --

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 28-01-2008 07:23:18 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: do people consider these things critical ? i dont know the last time i personally needed/wanted any of these ... Given that it needs a jumbo patch to compile on non-GNU/Linux systems lacking GNU getopt, I wouldn't mind if it would get

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Rémi Cardona
Mike Frysinger a écrit : do people consider these things critical ? i dont know the last time i personally needed/wanted any of these ... I for one didn't even know what tools it provided ... let alone what I might use them for. Rémi -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Yuri Vasilevski
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:23:18 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils and integrated straight into coreutils, perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone. current debianutils is part of system and

[gentoo-dev] Re: debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:23:18 -0500: current debianutils is part of system and provides: - installkernel - mkboot do people consider these things critical ? i dont know the last time i personally needed/wanted

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Duncan wrote: At minimum, I'd say make the usual BIG WARNING NOISES in the usual places, and probably still expect complaints. It may still be worth doing to cut down on system size... or not, depending on where the system size vs. inevitable complaints comes down. (FWIW, it's precisely this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: openswan mit Kernel 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Mateusz Mierzwinski
Hallo, Please write in English, not everybody speaks German. Christian Faulhammer pisze: Hallo, Dirk Spiekermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Die IPSec-tools und Openswan habe ich schon neu emerged. Auch die neue Option Authenc support im Kernel habe ich aktiviert. OpenSwan ist

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Doug Klima
Mike Frysinger wrote: now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils and integrated straight into coreutils, perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone. current debianutils is part of system and provides: - installkernel - run-parts - tempfile -

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Yuri Vasilevski kirjoitti: On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:23:18 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils and integrated straight into coreutils, perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone. current debianutils is

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 07:23:18AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils and integrated straight into coreutils, perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone. current debianutils is part of system and provides: -

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Krzysiek Pawlik kirjoitti: Yuri Vasilevski wrote: I would say drop it from system and add to RDEPEND in kernel-2.eclass for ${ETYPE} == sources. IMHO that's a bad idea - everybody use some kernel sources, but not everybody runs `make install'. I'm for dropping debianutils from system.

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Krzysiek Pawlik
Yuri Vasilevski wrote: I would say drop it from system and add to RDEPEND in kernel-2.eclass for ${ETYPE} == sources. IMHO that's a bad idea - everybody use some kernel sources, but not everybody runs `make install'. I'm for dropping debianutils from system. -- Krzysiek Pawlik nelchael at

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:59:39 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BSD, prefix etc. I would say breaking make install is worse than requiring people to keep debianutils installed. They can just use package.provided if they want to get rid of it. ...which then breaks things that have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Matthias B.
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:59:39 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Krzysiek Pawlik kirjoitti: Yuri Vasilevski wrote: I would say drop it from system and add to RDEPEND in kernel-2.eclass for ${ETYPE} == sources. IMHO that's a bad idea - everybody use some kernel sources, but not

[gentoo-dev] KDE 3.5.8 for x86

2008-01-28 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi arches, just to let you know that I will start marking above monster stable on Wednesday 30 Jan 2008 from 0800 CET for x86. Please leave the kde-base category alone for some hours. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/, #gentoo-lisp on

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:59:39 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BSD, prefix etc. I would say breaking make install is worse than requiring people to keep debianutils installed. They can just use package.provided if they want to get rid of it. ...which then

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: openswan mit Kernel 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Dawid Węgliński
Mateusz Mierzwinski pisze: Hallo, Please write in English, not everybody speaks German. Christian Faulhammer pisze: Hallo, Dirk Spiekermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Die IPSec-tools und Openswan habe ich schon neu emerged. Auch die neue Option Authenc support im Kernel habe ich aktiviert.

[gentoo-dev] Re: openswan mit Kernel 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hallo, Dirk Spiekermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Die IPSec-tools und Openswan habe ich schon neu emerged. Auch die neue Option Authenc support im Kernel habe ich aktiviert. OpenSwan ist mittlerweile in Version 2.4.11 (nicht in Portage) erschienen, eventuell ist die Version angepasst. V-Li --

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-tex/koma-script, due some day after 28 Feb 2008

2008-01-28 Thread Alexis Ballier
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Jan Kundrát
Duncan wrote: Mainstream kernel's default make install uses /sbin/installkernel if it exists, so I've been using it, invoking the kernel's make install from my own kernel scripts. installkernel invokes mkboot... We (the docs team) have never suggested out users to run `make install` for

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:43:38 +0100 Matthias B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with making it an optional dependency? Something like a useflag Because if this would be done consistently we'd end up with several thousand use flags long term, not really what I'd call managable.

[gentoo-dev] Best practices for package.mask removals

2008-01-28 Thread Ryan Hill
Remi (or rane.. or some other r- dev ;]) was asking a couple days ago how to write a package.mask entry for removals so the script picks it up. Actually there is no script (just me), and there's no real rules. but I thought I'd mention a couple things that would make life easier. In your

[gentoo-dev] RFC: new sword-module eclass

2008-01-28 Thread Steve Dibb
Okay, this is my first attempt at writing an eclass, so comments are welcome. First of all, here's the background. Sword modules are currently lumped together in one general package (sword-modules), when it would be simpler and easier to track them by having them as individual packages,