Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Rémi Cardona
Andrew D Kirch wrote: Obviously the software needs to work, and therefore we need patches, but Gentoo has not done enough to date to get them pushed upstream. Lets look at some cringeworthy statistics on outstanding patches. Have you even _looked_ at the patches? Can you tell which ones are :

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Andrew D Kirch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] Looks like you counted the number of files in the files/ subdirectories. Not all of these are patches. Also, you probably forgot to count seds, as some of us use sed more than patches. Oh, and like Jeremy was hinting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:12 Fri 01 Aug , Ferris McCormick wrote: > Required ethical disclaimer: I provide this only for information. It > is not a legal opinion, nor am I qualified to give a legal opinion on > international privacy laws. I will go so far as to say that the > Freenode privacy statement looks as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:17 Thu 31 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd/4th > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) ! > > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote > on, le

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Luca Barbato
Andrew D Kirch wrote: [...patches...] Common practice is to work with upstream (if alive) and have the patches merged asap. Nothing _that_ strange IMHO. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]

2008-08-14 Thread Jan Kundrát
Josh Saddler wrote: > XML doesn't put a space between the attribute and the closing slash -- > XHTML does. Common mistake. Also, use " for attributes, rather than '. Nope, both is perfectly legal in XML (and illegal per the GDP coding style, which certainly doesn't apply to metadata.xml) :p. Chee

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Andrew D Kirch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeremy Olexa wrote: >> >> Andrew D Kirch wrote: >> >> >> Good points, I take it that you have found a mentor and are becoming a dev >> to drive this project then? >> >> -Jeremy > > I've spoken in the past with both Elfyn

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Andrew D Kirch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Patches in the metadata.xml should have some sort of status tracking for > each patch, repoman should flag any that don't, and warn on any that have > not been submitted upstream unless the status is signed off on by a h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 03:01 Thu 14 Aug , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 23:17 Thu 31 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd/4th > > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > > irc.freenode.net) ! > > > > If you have someth

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 03:01 Thu 14 Aug , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Here's a rough agenda. I'll hash it out a bit more a few hours in > advance of the meeting. Basically, council members haven't responded to > these items on the mailing list, and that's what needs to happen. For all of the items below, here's wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Mario Fetka
Am Donnerstag, 14. August 2008 17:24:41 schrieb Santiago M. Mola: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Andrew D Kirch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Patches in the metadata.xml should have some sort of status tracking for > > each patch, repoman should flag any that don't, and warn on any that have >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-14 Thread David Leverton
2008/8/14 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Why aren't fired developers banned from the channels where they >> displayed this behavior? Isn't this one effectively withdrawn? I asked yngwin which devs he was referring to, and he said there weren't any, so is there anything left to discuss?

[gentoo-dev] imlib/imlib2 useflag inconsistency

2008-08-14 Thread Benedikt Morbach
Hello everybody, I recently noticed, that there are two imlibs in the tree, media-libs/imlib and media-libs/imlib2. There are also two corresponding useflags, imlib and imlib2, while imlib is a global useflag and imlib2 a local one. At the moment of writing, a total of 48 ebuilds in the tree use on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-14 Thread Ben de Groot
David Leverton wrote: > 2008/8/14 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Why aren't fired developers banned from the channels where they >>> displayed this behavior? > > Isn't this one effectively withdrawn? I asked yngwin which devs he > was referring to, and he said there weren't any, so is t

[gentoo-dev] Re: imlib/imlib2 useflag inconsistency

2008-08-14 Thread Duncan
"Benedikt Morbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:56:16 +0200: > Possible solutions include: (sorted by necessary effort) 1. Leaving > everything like it is (not a real solution) 2. Removing the imlib2 > useflag 3. Changing the 24 ebuilds dep

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Rémi Cardona wrote: Andrew D Kirch wrote: Obviously the software needs to work, and therefore we need patches, but Gentoo has not done enough to date to get them pushed upstream. Lets look at some cringeworthy statistics on outstanding patches. Have you even _looked_ at the patches? Can you te

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Denis Dupeyron wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Andrew D Kirch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] Looks like you counted the number of files in the files/ subdirectories. Not all of these are patches. Also, you probably forgot to count seds, as some of us use sed more than patches. Oh, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:55:12AM -0400, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Here's the script that I used to generate this. I have not manually > reviewed all of thousands of patches to determine the unique situation of > each patch, however I would like a suggestion on how to demonstrate _real_ > statis

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Josh Saddler
Andrew D Kirch wrote: Denis Dupeyron wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Andrew D Kirch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] Looks like you counted the number of files in the files/ subdirectories. Not all of these are patches. Also, you probably forgot to count seds, as some of us use sed mor