Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reworking package stabilization policies

2010-03-27 Thread Alistair Bush
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 07:31:10PM +1300, Alistair Bush wrote: > > > On Saturday 27 of March 2010 21:58:41 William Hubbs wrote: > > > > > > It's really freaking silly to wait months for stabilization of some > > > random php/perl library that's known to work. > > > > Have you ever just consider

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reworking package stabilization policies

2010-03-27 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 07:31:10PM +1300, Alistair Bush wrote: > > On Saturday 27 of March 2010 21:58:41 William Hubbs wrote: > > > > It's really freaking silly to wait months for stabilization of some random > > php/perl library that's known to work. > > Have you ever just considered closing the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reworking package stabilization policies

2010-03-27 Thread Alistair Bush
> On Saturday 27 of March 2010 21:58:41 William Hubbs wrote: > > It's really freaking silly to wait months for stabilization of some random > php/perl library that's known to work. Have you ever just considered closing the stabilization bug and ignoring the arch. If they take so long to mark yo

usemove [was Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: changing ssl use flag descriptions and unify behaviour]

2010-03-27 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 01:03:43AM -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: > I seriously hate changing USE flags for the sake of changing use > flags. This provides a moderate amount of annoyance for anyone that > maintains more then one Gentoo box because they need to then tinker > with their /etc/make.conf

Re: [gentoo-dev] when to use a function and an implementation use flag.

2010-03-27 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 03/24/2010 08:30 PM, Peter Hjalmarsson wrote: > >> For qemu-kvm the problem is that there is only one implementation (i.e. >> gnutls), and if I want to have ssl support I have to enable gnutls for >> this package. > > In this case the ebuil

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: changing ssl use flag descriptions and unify behavior

2010-03-27 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: > See this thread for background: > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_0673a33fe75961e510872fd2c1044ced.xml > > I think we should go through all the ssl use flag using packages and > unify the use flag descriptions and behavior to the fol

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reworking package stabilization policies

2010-03-27 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Saturday 27 of March 2010 21:58:41 William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 05:45:51PM +0100, Torsten Veller wrote: > > * Petteri R?ty : > > > So let's summarize for assigning to the single arch: > > > > > > In support (and my comments in support): > > > - Can be used as a gentle reminde

[gentoo-dev] List of User projects

2010-03-27 Thread Alistair Bush
I was just thinking how nice it could be if we acknowledged some of the projects that contribute to gentoo but are actually developed primarily outside of gentoo's dev community. How about a page on gentoo.org So lets me start with a couple of obvious ones. kportagetray pkgcore paludis There

[gentoo-dev] reminding slacker arch's to handle bugs

2010-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 05:45:51PM +0100, Torsten Veller wrote: > * Petteri R?ty : > > So let's summarize for assigning to the single arch: > > > In support (and my comments in support): > > - Can be used as a gentle reminder for slacker arches > > And if not "only one arch" or "single arch" is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 05:27:46PM +, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:28:29 +, Alec Warner > wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Dale wrote: > > >> As a user, I still think this could turn into a real mess. ??I think > there > >> will be quite a few that will see

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-27 Thread Matti Bickel
Alec Warner wrote: > Could we generate a bugzilla search for arch teams? Do arch teams > already use existing bugzilla functionality? At least when i was with the ppc team, we had a bugzie search. And bugzie already sorts your query for you. I guess it could be made to only show keyword=STABLEREQ

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Torsten Veller wrote: > * Petteri Räty : >> So let's summarize for assigning to the single arch: > >> In support (and my comments in support): >>  - Can be used as a gentle reminder for slacker arches > > And if not "only one arch" or "single arch" is slacking? > I

[gentoo-dev] Re: Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-27 Thread Torsten Veller
* Petteri Räty : > So let's summarize for assigning to the single arch: > In support (and my comments in support): > - Can be used as a gentle reminder for slacker arches And if not "only one arch" or "single arch" is slacking? I guess you would find another gentle way to remind them. How abou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-27 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/27/2010 04:51 PM, Alex Alexander wrote: > > The only reason I don't really like this is because it breaks > consistency. We have a ground rule, assign to maintainer, CC arch(es). > Why make it more complicated? I have a feeling people will continue > CCing arches out of habit. > I don't thi

[gentoo-dev] RFC: changing ssl use flag descriptions and unify behavior

2010-03-27 Thread Petteri Räty
See this thread for background: http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_0673a33fe75961e510872fd2c1044ced.xml I think we should go through all the ssl use flag using packages and unify the use flag descriptions and behavior to the following standing policy (handed down probably): 1) packages alw

Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-27 Thread Alex Alexander
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 04:26:46PM +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 03/12/2010 09:18 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: > > There seems to be two different schools on who to assign a keywording > > bug with only a single arch. I have myself assigned it to the arch in > > question but there's a difference of op

Re: [gentoo-dev] when to use a function and an implementation use flag.

2010-03-27 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/24/2010 08:30 PM, Peter Hjalmarsson wrote: > For qemu-kvm the problem is that there is only one implementation (i.e. > gnutls), and if I want to have ssl support I have to enable gnutls for > this package. In this case the ebuild should have only ssl use flag. > When I wrote a bug about th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-27 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/12/2010 09:18 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: > There seems to be two different schools on who to assign a keywording > bug with only a single arch. I have myself assigned it to the arch in > question but there's a difference of opinion here: > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=272160#c5 > Let's