Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: eutils function

2010-10-31 Thread Christopher Schwan
Hi, I followed this discussion quietly until now - I wonder why no one (?) has mentioned the autotool-utils.eclass which is dedicated for this purpose (la- file removal, static-libs USE-flag, etc), I think. This eclass also provides a function remove_libtool_files which does what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files

2010-10-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 31-10-2010 a las 03:25 -0100, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto escribió: 3. Add a page to the QA project space (unless they're not interested) about la files and how to deal with them I think we can ask Diego to use large parts of his blog posts and charts about .la files[1], [2], [3], [4]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: QA document

2010-10-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 31-10-2010 a las 03:32 -0100, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start a thread about the QA document. Please reply to this thread if you have any comments about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in server profiles

2010-10-31 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:59:08PM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: On 10/30/2010 08:10 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: If i remember it right, the server profile was created for those people, who only want a minimum amount of default profile enabled USE flags (so no desktop profile because of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: eutils function

2010-10-31 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 31.10.2010 09:28, schrieb Christopher Schwan: Hi, I followed this discussion quietly until now - I wonder why no one (?) has mentioned the autotool-utils.eclass which is dedicated for this purpose (la- file removal, static-libs USE-flag, etc), I think. This eclass also provides a

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: eutils function

2010-10-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno dom, 31/10/2010 alle 13.26 +0100, Thomas Sachau ha scritto: The line should exclude those .la files, which contain shouldnotlinkto=yes or directly use the autotools-utils eclass as suggested, since it already contains this functionality together with a nice USE flag

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: wording about when and how to drop .la files

2010-10-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno dom, 31/10/2010 alle 03.30 -0100, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto ha scritto: As agreed in the meeting, as a first draft, we have that the motion is to drop la files, when appropriate, through the use of a function in eutils that will only be called if the static-libs use flag is not set

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: wording about when and how to drop .la files

2010-10-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 31-10-2010 a las 14:56 +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò escribió: Il giorno dom, 31/10/2010 alle 03.30 -0100, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto ha scritto: As agreed in the meeting, as a first draft, we have that the motion is to drop la files, when appropriate, through the use of a function in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in server profiles

2010-10-31 Thread Alex Alexander
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:50:02AM +, Markos Chandras wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:59:08PM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: On 10/30/2010 08:10 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: If i remember it right, the server profile was created for those people, who only want a minimum amount of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in server profiles

2010-10-31 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 04:38:09PM +0200, Alex Alexander wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:50:02AM +, Markos Chandras wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:59:08PM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: On 10/30/2010 08:10 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: If i remember it right, the server profile was

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: wording about when and how to drop .la files

2010-10-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno dom, 31/10/2010 alle 15.31 +0100, Pacho Ramos ha scritto: In that case, I think the work on these cases should start as soon as possible, I have said that before. but I think that getting bugs reported (probably from your next tinderbox run if possible) would help. Search for

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files

2010-10-31 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: As decided in the last council's meeting, following the recent discussions about .la files removal, I'm sending an email to this list with a proposal for a plan to address this issue. 1- Why is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: wording about when and how to drop .la files

2010-10-31 Thread Thomas Beierlein
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:52:51 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@gmail.com wrote: For example, I have just seen in my system that packages like dev-python/pyorbit and dev-libs/libgamin are installing these .la files that should not be needed,

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: wording about when and how to drop .la files

2010-10-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno dom, 31/10/2010 alle 20.09 +0100, Thomas Beierlein ha scritto: If I read the discussion correctly we will still need to keep these .la files around. Most likely, yes… you can go a bit deeper about them (for instance PulseAudio can load its plugins with libltdl even if the .la

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in server profiles

2010-10-31 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Alex Alexander wi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:50:02AM +, Markos Chandras wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:59:08PM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: On 10/30/2010 08:10 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: If i remember it right, the server profile

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in server profiles

2010-10-31 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:47:32PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Alex Alexander wi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:50:02AM +, Markos Chandras wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:59:08PM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: On 10/30/2010 08:10 AM,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: wording about when and how to drop .la files

2010-10-31 Thread Thomas Beierlein
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:15:17 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno dom, 31/10/2010 alle 20.09 +0100, Thomas Beierlein ha scritto: If I read the discussion correctly we will still need to keep these .la files around.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files

2010-10-31 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31-10-2010 15:31, Denis Dupeyron wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: As decided in the last council's meeting, following the recent discussions about .la files removal, I'm sending

[gentoo-dev] RFC: mesa.eselect

2010-10-31 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Hi, media-libs/mesa-7.9 has been sitting in the X11 overlay for some time and the X11 team are planning to move it to portage soon. The new release brings a number of improvements, including much better Gallium3D support. One feature that we would like to add to Mesa in Gentoo is the ability

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2010-10-31 23h59 UTC

2010-10-31 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2010-10-31 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-libs/libjingle 2010-10-27 12:40:43 ssuominen net-voip/telepathy-stream-engine2010-10-27 12:43:32 ssuominen