Re: [gentoo-dev] Rewriting bash-completion.eclass

2011-09-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:14:56 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Michał Górny wrote: > > > So, here it goes. However, I'm not sure if that even deserves > > a dedicated function as the destination is pretty constant. > > > # @BLURB: A few quick functions to install bash-compl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Rewriting bash-completion.eclass

2011-09-08 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2011/9/8 Michał Górny : > > Done. Also, added an example. If nobody has further objections, I'll > commit this today. > > -- > Best regards, > Michał Górny > Dunno but shouldn't there be two fields one for AUTHOR and one for MAINTAINER, Also in the code do not use the autotols-utils... but just pl

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/07/2011 20:35, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> Never once have I had any issues >> with separate / and /usr, and none of them use an initramfs. > > > Ditto here, but that doesn't mean that problems don't exist. Right now the > problems are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Rewriting bash-completion.eclass

2011-09-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 09:52:02 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > 2011/9/8 Michał Górny : > > > > Done. Also, added an example. If nobody has further objections, I'll > > commit this today. > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Michał Górny > > > > Dunno but shouldn't there be two fields one for AUTHOR and on

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 04:19:32 -0400 Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 09/07/2011 20:35, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Joshua Kinard > > wrote: > > > >> Never once have I had any issues > >> with separate / and /usr, and none of them use an initramfs. > > > > > > Ditto here

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Eray Aslan
On 2011-09-08 11:19 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > Whoever said we had to do what everyone else did? We're Gentoo, not a > pack of lemmings. If we have to, we should be able to create an > entirely new solution, never thought of before, that fixes the problem > for all parties involved, yet allows us

[gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/dev-libs/libffi: ChangeLog libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild libffi-3.0.9.ebuild

2011-09-08 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/06/2011 11:31 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 06-09-2011 20:24:54 +, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> Modified: ChangeLog >> Removed: libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild libffi-3.0.9.ebuild >> Log: >> [This is a placeholder. Please ignore.] > > Considering that you seem to do this on a regular basis: > P

[gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/dev-libs/libffi: ChangeLog libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild libffi-3.0.9.ebuild

2011-09-08 Thread Duncan
Samuli Suominen posted on Thu, 08 Sep 2011 14:54:24 +0300 as excerpted: > On 09/06/2011 11:31 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: >> On 06-09-2011 20:24:54 +, Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> Modified: ChangeLog >>> Removed: libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild libffi-3.0.9.ebuild Log: >>> [This is a placeholder. Pleas

[gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/dev-libs/libffi: ChangeLog libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild libffi-3.0.9.ebuild

2011-09-08 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 08-09-2011 14:54:24 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 09/06/2011 11:31 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > > On 06-09-2011 20:24:54 +, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> Modified: ChangeLog > >> Removed: libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild libffi-3.0.9.ebuild > >> Log: > >> [This is a placeholder. Please ignore.]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/dev-libs/libffi: ChangeLog libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild libffi-3.0.9.ebuild

2011-09-08 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/09/2011 04:07 μμ, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 08-09-2011 14:54:24 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 09/06/2011 11:31 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: >>> On 06-09-2011 20:24:54 +, Samuli Suominen wrote: Modified: ChangeLog Removed: libffi-3.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/dev-libs/libffi: ChangeLog libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild libffi-3.0.9.ebuild

2011-09-08 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 08-09-2011 16:16:36 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: > The changelog entry message is irrelevant in this case since the > changelog already lists which files were removed ( -foo-1 -foo-2 ) so > please don't make us restart the old discussion about changelogs which > will lead us again to nasty and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/dev-libs/libffi: ChangeLog libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild libffi-3.0.9.ebuild

2011-09-08 Thread Petteri Räty
On 8.9.2011 16.16, Markos Chandras wrote: > >>> (Consider my refusal to reply any more messages in this thread as >>> an polite attempt of avoiding escalation and flame.) > >> Consider my email as a friendly and polite request to please change >> your ChangeLog behaviour from now on. > > > The

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > I'd rather say we should do the work on real issues rather than > imaginate 'separate /usr' problem. Honestly, most of 'advantages' of > separate /usr are just hacks avoiding other problems. > > I guess the irony in my case was that having a

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 13:52:55 +0300 Eray Aslan wrote: > On 2011-09-08 11:19 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > > Whoever said we had to do what everyone else did? We're Gentoo, > > not a pack of lemmings. If we have to, we should be able to create > > an entirely new solution, never thought of before, t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/dev-libs/libffi: ChangeLog libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild libffi-3.0.9.ebuild

2011-09-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:16:36 +0300 Markos Chandras wrote: > The changelog entry message is irrelevant in this case since the > changelog already lists which files were removed ( -foo-1 -foo-2 ) so > please don't make us restart the old discussion about changelogs which > will lead us again to nas

[gentoo-dev] bash-completion-r1: a quick migration guide

2011-09-08 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, As new bash-completion-r1 eclass is in the tree now, a quick migration guide follows. The new eclass is simpler and more consistent. It doesn't enforce USE=bash-completion or put any bash-completion-specific deps on packages. If any package _really_ needs that, it should put out the necess

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-completion-r1: a quick migration guide

2011-09-08 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Michał Górny wrote: > 3) dobashcompletion foo -> dobashcomp foo || die Isn't that rather: newbashcomp foo ${PN} || die Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-completion-r1: a quick migration guide

2011-09-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:46:01 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Michał Górny wrote: > > > 3) dobashcompletion foo > -> dobashcomp foo || die > > Isn't that rather: > newbashcomp foo ${PN} || die Ah, sorry, you're right. -- Best regards, Michał Górny signature.asc Descri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-08 Thread Thomas Sachau
Tomáš Chvátal schrieb: > Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. 1) USE-flag based support to cross-compile packages (mostly implemented in multilib-portage) 2) USE-flag based support to install for different slots (e.g. python, ruby or php) 3) (internal) USE-flag based support to re-install packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Tomáš Chvátal schrieb: >> Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. > > 1) USE-flag based support to cross-compile packages (mostly implemented in > multilib-portage) > 2) USE-flag based support to install for different slots (e.g. python, ruby > o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-08 Thread Ole Markus With
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:03:56 +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: Tomáš Chvátal schrieb: Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. 2) USE-flag based support to install for different slots (e.g. python, ruby or php) The second one is already done in some eclasses, afaik php and ruby, but it might be a g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-08 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2011-09-08 19:03:56 Thomas Sachau napisał(a): > Tomáš Chvátal schrieb: > > Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. > > 2) USE-flag based support to install for different slots (e.g. python, ruby > or php) > > The second one is already done in some eclasses, afaik php and ruby, but it > might be a goo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:10:23 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2011-09-08 19:03:56 Thomas Sachau napisał(a): > > Tomáš Chvátal schrieb: > > > Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. > > > > 2) USE-flag based support to install for different slots (e.g. > > python, ruby or php) > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:35:48 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > PM needs to provide us with a nice ability to handle all that. I've yet to see a complete, detailed, accurate description of what "all that" really is. It's a bit hard to come up with an EAPI solution when we don't know what the problem is.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 19:33:03 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:35:48 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > PM needs to provide us with a nice ability to handle all that. > > I've yet to see a complete, detailed, accurate description of what > "all that" really is. It's a bit hard to

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Eray Aslan
On 2011-09-08 6:58 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Could you stick to facts rather than pointless accusations? It is not an accusation and it is not pointless. For the last time: Seperate /usr without initramfs used to work. Now it doesn't. What you are proposing is going to make it well neigh impos

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/08/2011 10:35, Rich Freeman wrote: > It may have changed, but at least in the past you couldn't have root on a > raid5 without an initramfs - you definitely couldn't have it on LVM. So, if > you wanted to run LVM on raid5, you had to have a separate root that was > raid1 with the older meta

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/08/2011 16:02, Eray Aslan wrote: > Seperate /usr without initramfs used to work. Now it doesn't. What you > are proposing is going to make it well neigh impossible to correct later > on. We could have done a proper fix instead of going with the flow. > But I am not the one doing the codin

[gentoo-dev] Re: Committing packages with unfetchable sources [sys-devel/gdb-7.3.1]

2011-09-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 03:20:01 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > please stop committing packages that is not possible to fetch right away. > You can pick from three options: > a) stop using mirrors://gentoo/ and put it on dev.gentoo.org to your > public_html like most of us do > b) mask the package

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 05:27:05 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > > Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old > > systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea > > Old systems should migrate to initramfs,

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 18:15:21 Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 09/08/2011 16:02, Eray Aslan wrote: > > Seperate /usr without initramfs used to work. Now it doesn't. What you > > are proposing is going to make it well neigh impossible to correct later > > on. We could have done a proper fix i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 14:10:23 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2011-09-08 19:03:56 Thomas Sachau napisał(a): > > Tomáš Chvátal schrieb: > > > Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. > > > > 2) USE-flag based support to install for different slots (e.g. python, > > ruby or php) >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] virtual/polkit-agent virtual pkg

2011-09-08 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > We have actually 3 polkit agent implementations in Portage: > > gnome-extra/polkit-gnome > lxde-base/lxpolkit > sys-auth/polkit-kde-agent > There's one more: gnome-base/gnome-shell GNOME Shell has its own polkit-agent implementation, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Eray Aslan
On 2011-09-09 1:15 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > Under what setup does it not work now? I would very much like to know > if some recent OpenRC thing just hosed something. I'm dealing with > torrential rain here, thunderstorms, and I cannot predict when my next > power outage will be. Last thing I n