[gentoo-dev] Portage sets support Was: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:31:24 -0800 as excerpted: > On 12/17/2012 09:59 PM, Duncan wrote: >> [1] I long ago filed a bug suggesting a new world-sets line for >> depclean, >> but I expect it'll be resolved/fixed about the time sets support >> finally gets unmasked to ~arch, the sta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-18 Thread Markos Chandras
On 17 December 2012 22:13, Peter Stuge wrote: > Duncan wrote: >> Apparently, IRC is a hard requirement. At least the one final >> evaluation must be done on IRC. > > I understand why online communication is not everyone's prefered format. > > I guess that the IRC part of the recruitment is not ve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/17/2012 04:31 PM, Greg KH wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:03:40PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> Olav Vitters wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:29:26AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: As I said in an earlier email, Lennart Poettering claims that it does not work. We are discuss

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/17/2012 06:23 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:31:59PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:03:40PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> Olav Vitters wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:29:26AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: > As I said in an earlier email

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Ultrabug
On 17/12/2012 13:15, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: I would say let's work on that so that portage can keep them there. Although I'm more for /var/cache/portage myself, as both distfiles and tree can be re-generated. +1. Cheers, Dirkjan

[gentoo-dev] Re: Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-18 Thread Duncan
Markos Chandras posted on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:44:23 + as excerpted: > Nowadays, I use google docs ( and I am also open to g+ and skype > interviews as well ). So IRC is not an absolute requirement. Thanks. Good to know. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] College Course in Gentoo Development

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/17/2012 10:32 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Give the talk on the list about attracting devs, I've should probably > mention that I'm teaching a College Course on Gentoo Development next > semester. I know two students will most likely go through the > recruitment process,

Re: [gentoo-dev] College Course in Gentoo Development

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/17/2012 07:46 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> >> 2. Write an ebuild for the project above, maintained in an overlay >> (also on GitHub), with sources fetched from GitHub. Add some small >> patch to configure.ac in the ebuild. Add USE flags. Add "make check" >> support to the build system, tes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Eden
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:48:12 schrieb Walter Dnes: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:37:27PM +0100, Sven Eden wrote > > > 1) --- kde-base/kate > > - > > > > Compiled with -ggdb in CFLAGS: > > # sum=0; for file in $(equery f kde-base/kate | grep "\.debug") ; do > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: College Course in Gentoo Development

2012-12-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> People simply don't seem to realize that you can go away and > do something else while all that's happening Like servers I prefer build machines to be more secure dedicated build machines without a browser or X, so I expect it's a bit of a barrier for me. Having said that I haven't found the t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Marcin Mirosław
W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze: > Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:48:12 schrieb Walter Dnes: >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:37:27PM +0100, Sven Eden wrote >> >>> 1) --- kde-base/kate >>> - >>> >>> Compiled with -ggdb in CFLAGS: >>> # sum=0; for file in $(equer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Eden
Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2012, 12:43:55 schrieb Marcin Mirosław: > W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze: (snip, because this has nothing to do with the previous discussion.) > >> On my 32-bit machines I have... > >> > >> FLAGS="-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Marcin Mirosław
W dniu 18.12.2012 13:03, Sven Eden pisze: > Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2012, 12:43:55 schrieb Marcin Mirosław: >> W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze: > > (snip, because this has nothing to do with the previous discussion.) > On my 32-bit machines I have... FLAGS="-O2 -march=

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 17/12/2012 11:11, Tomáš Chvátal ha scritto: Hi lads, lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from users. Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles default enabled and add -g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage sets support Was: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/18/2012 12:26 AM, Duncan wrote: > Zac Medico posted on Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:31:24 -0800 as excerpted: > >> On 12/17/2012 09:59 PM, Duncan wrote: > >>> [1] I long ago filed a bug suggesting a new world-sets line for >>> depclean, >>> but I expect it'll be resolved/fixed about the time sets su

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 17/12/12 06:23 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:31:59PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: >> >> Can this topic finally be put to rest please? There is a whole >> web page devoted to this topic, why do people blindly ignore it? > > This

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/17/2012 02:19 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to > be in the subfolders there (distfiles, binpkg). > > I've always myself override these defaults in make.conf to point for > /var/portage/ (not /var/lib because I never bothered en

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/17/2012 02:19 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to > be in the subfolders there (distfiles, binpkg). > > I've always myself override these defaults in make.conf to point for > /var/portage/ (not /var/lib because I never bothered en

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote: > > > This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it was > > pushed through that separate /usr without an initramfs is a > > supported configuration, so yes, the previous

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/18/2012 01:45 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote: >> >>> This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it was >>> pushed through that separate /usr without an initramfs is a >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 01:51:27PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: > On 12/18/2012 01:45 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote: > >> > >>> This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 18/12/12 01:45 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote: >> >>> This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it >>> was pushed through

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:45 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> > On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote: >> >> > This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it was >> > pushed through that separate /usr without an init

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/18/2012 01:38 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 12/17/2012 02:19 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: >> Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to >> be in the subfolders there (distfiles, binpkg). >> >> I've always myself override thes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/18/2012 02:49 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > On 12/18/2012 01:38 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 12/17/2012 02:19 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: >>> Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to >>> be in the subfolders ther

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 17-12-2012 a las 08:55 -0500, Rich Freeman escribió: [...] > I usually keep a debug file in /etc/portage/env.d and symlink it to > anything I'm working on. > > Rich > > I do the same, for example, I had end.d files for all evince related packages to get proper backtraces as I was gettin

[gentoo-dev] RFC: change of the default value for EHG_REVISION (mercurial.eclass)

2012-12-18 Thread Christoph Junghans
With nelchael's retirement I (with backup from djc) will take over the maintenance of mercurial.eclass. As one of the first things I would like to change the default value of EHG_REVISION. EHG_REVISION defines the revision/branch/tag to be checkout in src_unpack. The current default is "tip", whic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Florian D.
Am Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:45:35 +0100 schrieb Diego Elio Pettenò : > On 17/12/2012 13:42, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > If we change the location, can we then move distfiles to some place > > outside of the tree? Something like: > > > >/var/cache/portage > >/var/cache/distfiles > > What I do on

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: change of the default value for EHG_REVISION (mercurial.eclass)

2012-12-18 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Christoph Junghans wrote: > With nelchael's retirement I (with backup from djc) will take over the > maintenance of mercurial.eclass. As one of the first things I would > like to change the default value of EHG_REVISION. > > EHG_REVISION defines the revision/branch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
No /var/gentoo. No /var/repositories. /var/db/gentoo, /var/db/repositories, /var/cache/portage ... as long as Zac is fine with one whatever, but let's not invent any new top-level. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:20 P

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/18/2012 01:33 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > No /var/gentoo. No /var/repositories. > > /var/db/gentoo, /var/db/repositories, /var/cache/portage ... as long as > Zac is fine with one whatever, but let's not invent any new top-level. Yeah, /var/db or /var/cache sounds good to me. I would en

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: change of the default value for EHG_REVISION (mercurial.eclass)

2012-12-18 Thread Rafael Goncalves Martins
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Christoph Junghans wrote: >> With nelchael's retirement I (with backup from djc) will take over the >> maintenance of mercurial.eclass. As one of the first things I would >> like to change the default value of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:40:06 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > > People aren't bothering. It's not because of any fundamental > > problem -- it's because the process is obscure and potentially a > > waste of time. > > I agree with that. The process takes a lot of time for a minor > benefit, and most o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Joshua Saddler
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:19:20 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to > be in the subfolders there (distfiles, binpkg). > > I've always myself override these defaults in make.conf to point for > /var/portage/ (not /var/lib because I neve

[gentoo-dev] Re: Portage sets support Was: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:58:42 -0800 as excerpted: > It's important to clarify that, because /etc/portage/sets (aka GLEP 21 > User Sets) has already been supported in stable portage since 2.1.11.9 > [1]. I didn't know that. Last I knew, stable portage had special-case acceptance