Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-18 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:46:12 -0700 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about storing a copy of the EAPI in the Manifest file - when > "ebuild ... digest" is done? That way, it will always match the one > authoritative "post-source" EAPI setting, since changing the ebuild > will require

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:43:35 +0100 Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:14:24 +0100 > > Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I disagree here. It would be annoying and possibly even hindering > >> in future not being able to use hi

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:00:51 -0500 Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you could simply have $pkg_manager execute an eclass as 1 > EAPI, another eclass as another and the ebuild as a third EAPI and > simplify it for the eclass maintenance. Which doesn't work at all. Simple example would

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:59:28 -0500 Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since it doesn't appear the question was answered by the last thread. > I'm starting a new thread. The only sane solution I can think of is that eclasses shouldn't be allowed to change EAPI, but use conditionals to behave

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT: Request to participate in a survey for a doctoral thesis about Project Communities

2007-12-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:36:36 +0100 Björn Benz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://dissertation.bjoern-benz.de/output/project_community/ > > Thank you for your participation, a) you should probably send this to gentoo-project b) the page doesn't load for me, seems to be a redirection loop between

[gentoo-dev] New maintainers needed

2007-12-03 Thread Marius Mauch
For various reasons I can no longer maintain the following packages (in fact I haven't really maintained them for a while already), so they need a new maintainer: * app-editors/zoink - simple gtk based editor, little to no maintenance required * dev-util/gambas - Visual Basic look-alike for Linux,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/updates: 4Q-2007

2007-11-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:15:12 -0500 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to get a wider audience involved in this...this just seems wrong > to do. There is a QA bug open about it as well: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198248 > > What are other people's feelings on using packag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/nxserver-freenx: nxserver-freenx-0.7.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog nxserver-freenx-0.7.1.ebuild

2007-11-01 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 15:43:18 +0100 Bernard Cafarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:42:35 -0700 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit: > > > On 19:49 Wed 31 Oct , Bernard Cafarelli (voyageur) wrote: > > > 1.1 > > > net-misc/nxserver-freenx/nxserver-freenx-0.7.1.ebu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: repoman - I cannot handle it...

2007-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:13:58 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > But like name_splitted.cpp is buggy as it assumes that a dash > > followed by a digit starts the version part. See > > echo ${PORTDIR}/*-*/* | tr ' ' '\n&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: repoman - I cannot handle it...

2007-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:44:46 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Markus Rothe wrote: > > > Attached are the scripts I use to commit packages stable/unstable. > > Somewhere must be a bug! > > > > 'name_split.cpp' splits a package name like sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 into > > category, package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-php5/onphp: ChangeLog onphp-0.10.6.ebuild onphp-0.10.4.ebuild onphp-0.10.3.ebuild

2007-10-18 Thread Marius Mauch
Is it just me, or has this thread gone beyond it's usefulness? IOW, I think you two should take this (and future bash vs. sh discussions) to a private channel. Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/qof: qof-0.7.2.ebuild metadata.xml ChangeLog Manifest

2007-10-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:44:37 +0200 "Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2007-10-16 00:21 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał(a): > > On 21:28 Mon 15 Oct , Christian Faulhammer (opfer) wrote: > > > src_compile() { > > > econf || die "econf failed" > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming masking of dev-lang/php-4* and packages depending on it

2007-10-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:13:49 +0200 Christian Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heya, > > I'm going to p.mask =dev-lang/php-4* and all packages explicitly > depending on this version of php (i.e. the whole dev-php4/ category > (36 packages) and one webapp, www-apps/knowledgetree, bug 194894 [1]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting rid of lurking no* USE flags - profile-based package.use

2007-10-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:16:03 +0200 "Denis Dupeyron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/10/07, Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it's OK to start using package.use now considering that > > package.use has been supported since portage-2.1.2 and that's been > > stable since February.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: use flags -> use options

2007-10-08 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:45:04 +0200 "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Marius Mauch wrote: > >>> "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>>> I i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: use flags -> use options

2007-10-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:12:25 +0200 Tobias Klausmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > On Sun, 07 Oct 2007, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I imagine there are a lot more cases where the simple on/off > > > system we have now is suboptimal

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Planning for the transition to EAPI="1" support

2007-10-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:01:56 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 05 October 2007 04:26:50 Marius Mauch wrote: > > Problem is that nobody feels responsible for eselect anymore, so > > nobody takes care of bug #179064 (and I'm not going to p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Planning for the transition to EAPI="1" support

2007-10-04 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:34:14 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], > excerpted below, on Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:12:29 -0700: > > > Due to popular demand, I'm preparing a sys-apps/portage-2.1.3.12 > > release that will have support fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] controlling src_test

2007-10-04 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:50:01 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are several packages in portage (and even in base-system) that > fail in src_test when userpriv/usersandbox is enabled or disabled. > That is, some testsuites fail when run as root and some fail if not > run as root. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Graphical User Interfaces Project

2007-09-03 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:53:00 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > A group of our developers and i have felt the need of working around a > new goal inside Gentoo: Graphical User Interfaces (GUI). > > Though Gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last Rites - August 27th - September 2nd 2007

2007-09-02 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:11:40 -0500 Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > Lars Weiler wrote: > >> * Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07/09/02 17:44 -0600]: > >>> plan on doing version-specific masks in the future unless someone > >>> can come up with a good argument for it.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding /etc/udev/rules.d/ to CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK

2007-08-31 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:12:52 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthias Schwarzott kirjoitti: > > On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Matthias Schwarzott wrote: > >> Hi there! > >> > >> What do you think about adding /etc/udev/rules.d/ to > >> CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK. This will no longer bother

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:49:58 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why should someone have to go through all of that just to make these > minor fixes? Is it really necessary for someone to be required to try > to track down and contact the maintainer to tell them that they put > "eb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:47:27 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I meant that this should be doable without the maintainer's > consent. Meaning, I ask you to stabilize 1.0-r1 and a few weeks > later, you can decide to stabilize -r2 without me having to file a > bug. Basicall

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] qmail.eclass draft

2007-07-27 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:08:36 +0200 Michael Hanselmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - If I remember correctly, elog shouldn't be used for empty lines like > in qmail_supervise_config_notice. Use echo instead for them. You remember incorrectly (though I don't think I ever said anything about it).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-20 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:20:06 -0400 "Eric Polino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would seem there is a good support for a change to enable all > protocols by default. What will change this issue from a good thread > to an action on the package to implement these ideas? File a bug on bugs.gentoo.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-nfp] joining the Software Freedom Conservancy (was: Nominations open for the 2007/08 Trustees)

2007-07-17 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:08:23 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: [Mon Jul 16 2007, 04:00:44PM CDT] > > Anyway point I'm trying to make here is that I think we might be > > better off using a 3rd party as our foundation. IE people who have > > the experience/motivati

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC : New ebuild function pkg_create for creating corespondent sorce tarball

2007-07-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:25:02 +0300 Alin Năstac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was asked to discuss here a portage enhancement proposed by me [1]. > > Basically I need a pkg_create() that will be executed only in the > context of the upcoming "ebuild ${PF}.ebuild create" command. > > The package

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:42:44 -0400 Michael Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Vlastimil Babka wrote: > > Are you people serious? Let's ban nondevs from bugzilla then? Close > > #gentoo, disband PR, etc? Not sure if we can keep any sponsors >

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:53:08 +0200 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007/07/10, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > for some flags yes ... for others, i dislike that idea for the exact > > same reason for the other profile-based suggestions: these defaults >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-14 Thread Marius Mauch
oposal included delaying all posts and a special moderation group, only later the idea of separate policies for dev and non-dev mails was brought up. And to repeat: It was meant as an alternative to splitting the list into an informational and a discussion list (which is different than the -project id

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Watch out for license changes to GPL-3.

2007-07-12 Thread Marius Mauch
ned over to the Gentoo Foundation by the developer, and this > should be made policy and should be explained properly in a few places > in our documentation. > > Should I file a documentation bug about this? Well, documention won't help to resolve the legal questions about this (w

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Marius Mauch
e period > expires and no one booted it, so the email rolls through) For what it's worth, _IF_ this proposal goes through I'd strongly prefer that mode of operation, so that moderation can't become a limiting factor. Marius PS: Am I the only one who missed both reminders for the m

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Marius Mauch
> My only comment for now is: why not just make -core read only, but > public, and leave -dev as it is? That way we don't have to muck > around with deprecating lists and introducing new ones. I have to agree, the idea sounds simply like you want to rename -core to -dev and -dev t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] should we do an EAPI bump now with features that are already implemented?

2007-07-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:14:57 +0200 Stefan Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you please also list #138792 as implemented? It has a patch > attached. An unreleased (an incomplete regarding EAPI) patch does not count as being implemented. Marius -- Marius Mauch <[

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: John Jawed & Alex Tarkovsky's einput eclass

2007-07-07 Thread Marius Mauch
licitly allow such a package (or run unstable in which case they > will be used to dealing with glitches ;) and scripts can still avoid > interactive packages. (And bear in mind, it's not just uis we're > talking about, but stuff like QA automation.) Again, interactivity isn&#x

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated extended information gathering

2007-07-07 Thread Marius Mauch
le (think about overlays). Maybe by installing a script in a specific location or so. Marius -- Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Properties of package sets

2007-07-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:07:28 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please reply on gentoo-portage-dev, _not_ on gentoo-dev, thanks. > > One missing feature in portage is the lack of package sets. Before we > (re)start working on that however I'd like to get som

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Linux-PAM stabling plans

2007-07-04 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:07:39 -0700 Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forwarded by request of somebody thats smart/lucky enough to not > be on this list but still monitoring it. > > Forwarded Message > From: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: New Linux-

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Properties of package sets

2007-06-28 Thread Marius Mauch
Please reply on gentoo-portage-dev, _not_ on gentoo-dev, thanks. One missing feature in portage is the lack of package sets. Before we (re)start working on that however I'd like to get some feedback about what properties/features people would expect from portage package set support. Some key quest

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Unifying the behavior of the doc use flag and document it

2007-06-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:11:16 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My opinion is to make it clear that the doc use flag always controls > whether or not to install documentation and make it clear in the > devmanual. For what gnome does, they can then add for example a > gtk-doc use flag

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages

2007-06-20 Thread Marius Mauch
are safe for public distribution is to do emerge -b or -B .. > > And that pkgs built with quickpkg may contain sensitive information. > > If there is smart conf-file updating inside pkg_preinst(), I think > even emerge -b could be unsafe. preinst is run after building the tbz2 package. Marius -- Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages

2007-06-20 Thread Marius Mauch
he format of CONTENTS in the vdb: > priv /etc/fstab And what would be phase 2 of that? Just having a new filetype in CONTENTS doesn't accomplish anything by itself ... Marius -- Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree

2007-06-12 Thread Marius Mauch
Btw, both of your issues could probably be solved by bug 126059 without adding new rules or new work for ebuild devs. -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:07:11 +0200 cilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I think it is worth to discuss about `Do not modify ebuilds which > are already in the tree... even if masked.` > > Sometimes ebuilds which are already in the portage tree are modified > without changing the > ve

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Version Naming Clarification

2007-06-07 Thread Marius Mauch
asier in many places. Can't say anything about that before I understand what you tried to say ;) Marius -- Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Version Naming Clarification

2007-06-07 Thread Marius Mauch
hat returns a list of CPVs, and by prefixing a CPV with an operator you get an atom, but they are still completely separate things. Maybe that helps to clear some of the confusion. -- Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Version Naming Clarification

2007-06-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 02:57:28 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > maillog: 07/06/2007-19:42:45(+0200): Marius Mauch types > > Thing is: if you see sys-fs/ntfs-3g, is that an atom or a CPV? You > > don't know unless you actually check the tree. > > Isn

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Version Naming Clarification

2007-06-07 Thread Marius Mauch
der any data after the LAST - as the > > version information. > > Would this cause problems anywhere if we had the following? > > sys-fs/ntfs/ntfs-3g.ebuild > and > sys-fs/ntfs-3g/ntfs-3g-1.516.ebuild Thing is: if you see sys-fs/ntfs-3g, is that an atom or a CPV? You don

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Marius Mauch
aybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have serious doubts about it. It's of no use if people have to be told to move threads from -dev to that new list. Marius -- Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new bugzilla resolution: NEEDPATCH

2007-06-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 30 May 2007 21:44:08 -0700 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 02:32:22AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows a number of (enhancement) > > bugs that are fixable, but the as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!

2007-05-30 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 31 May 2007 03:35:20 +0200 "Bryan Østergaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally > retiring from Gentoo. I usually don't participate in all the welcome/goodbye threads, but you're one of the few people I'm really sad to see le

[gentoo-dev] RFC: new bugzilla resolution: NEEDPATCH

2007-05-30 Thread Marius Mauch
I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows a number of (enhancement) bugs that are fixable, but the assignee doesn't have the motivation to come up with a solution, but would look at and eventually include a user-submitted patch for it. Currently those would either be left open forever or closed as WO

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news item for review: Radiant upgrade

2007-05-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 6 May 2007 17:27:39 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2007 18:20:31 +0200 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The only solution I currently see is an additional field in the > > header, a change in behaviour and therefore the GLEP itself. > > In particular, this f

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news item for review: Radiant upgrade

2007-05-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 6 May 2007 18:42:58 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2007 18:20:31 +0200 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In particular, this field could be my previous understanding > > of "Display-If-Upgrading-From-To" namely > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news item for review: Radiant upgrade

2007-05-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 6 May 2007 18:20:31 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In particular, this field could be my previous understanding > of "Display-If-Upgrading-From-To" namely > "Display-Before-Upgrading-From-To" which would fit the requirements > defined by the GLEP: Which is the same as a combination of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why Glep42 news can't be used yet

2007-05-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 6 May 2007 16:44:23 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2007 15:40:23 +0200 > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apparently the `eselect news` module (which is the suggested > > default news reader) requires paludis to b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why Glep42 news can't be used yet

2007-05-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 6 May 2007 16:00:29 +0200 Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 06 of May 2007 15:40:23 Marius Mauch wrote: > > Apparently the `eselect news` module (which is the suggested > > default news reader) requires paludis to be installed and > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why Glep42 news can't be used yet

2007-05-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 6 May 2007 15:40:23 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Disclaimer: This has nothing to do with the recent disussion about he > paludis news item except that it was used as testcase. > > Apparently the `eselect news` module (which is the suggested >

[gentoo-dev] Why Glep42 news can't be used yet

2007-05-06 Thread Marius Mauch
Disclaimer: This has nothing to do with the recent disussion about he paludis news item except that it was used as testcase. Apparently the `eselect news` module (which is the suggested default news reader) requires paludis to be installed and configured, a quick test resulted in errors when tryin

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 05 May 2007 14:26:48 -0700 Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > All- > > After some discussion on #-dev there are some improvements that we can > make on glep 42. > > 1. Priority levels for news items: If we did this users could de

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Should _p0 be allowed as a version suffix?

2007-05-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 6 May 2007 04:37:10 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 05 May 2007, Zac Medico wrote: > > Should we ban the _p0 suffix from the > > tree or should be change the version comparison behavior so that > > implicit _p0 is less than explicit _p0? > > 4 < 4_p < 4_p0 <

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 5 May 2007 16:23:53 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:12:03 +0200 > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (My) Experience has also shown that gentoo-x86/portage users like > > the elog features in portage, so sto

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 5 May 2007 09:37:17 -0400 "Stephen P. Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What experience? So far there have been no news items. The issue > > about elog messages being one shot things is rather outdated (at > > least for portage), and post-merge information is the domain of > > elog (a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 5 May 2007 13:45:47 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 5 May 2007 10:07:41 +0200 > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What experience? So far there have been no news items. > > Paludis has had working news items for ages

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 5 May 2007 13:46:32 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 5 May 2007 10:30:40 +0200 > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And given that the GLEP specifically states that news items are not > > suposed to replace the usual po

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 5 May 2007 00:52:46 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 4 May 2007 19:48:19 -0400 > Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That seems like a really bad road to go down. > > > > Would it not be better to extend elog to alert people at the end of > > an install as

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 5 May 2007 00:17:46 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 04 May 2007 17:38:43 -0500 > Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > otherwise, yeah, elog does the same thing already... > > Experience has shown that news items work in delivering this kind of > inf

Re: [gentoo-dev] tests

2007-05-01 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 1 May 2007 15:08:56 +0200 Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > There was some discussion about forcing/not forcing tests in EAPI-1, > but there was clearly no compromise. Imho, tests are very important > and thus I want to discuss them a little more, but in more sensi

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 05:07:00 +0200 Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And as it was pointed out before. Static builds are not needed most > of the time. There is only 2 packages that actually need the static > libraries. The rest fails due to upstream bugs in the > configure/makefile (r

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:04:07 +0200 Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Sonntag 29 April 2007 20:46 schrieb paul kölle: > > Roman Zimmermann wrote: > > > (without the ugly EXTRA_ECONF-hack)? > > > > I wonder why you call this an ugly hack? It seems to me everyone who > > wishes to avoi

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:43:29 +0200 Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those links Jakub posted are interesting, but I don't find an > explanation why this decission was made. Maybe you have a link to > that discussion too? What decision? That USE=static shouldn't be used for (not) inst

Re: [gentoo-dev] Our profiles/updates handling is not smart enough

2007-04-27 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:00:18 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep javahelp -r /usr/portage/profiles/updates/ > /usr/portage/profiles/updates/3Q-2004:move dev-java/javahelp > dev-java/javahelp-bin > > Well nowadays Sun has put javahelp under GPL so now we have

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:30:06 -0700 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug Goldstein wrote: > > I agree -r# is for ebuild changes not code changes. I remember a while > > back Portage would constantly use -r# instead of a 4th number and we > > worked at that to change that behavior since it

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:20:05 +0200 Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 24 of April 2007 22:47:00 Jurek Bartuszek wrote: > > Let me see if I have this straight: suppose we have package foo-0.1_rc2 > > released (very outdated) and we're waiting for foo-0.1_rc3. Then example > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:29:37 +0200 Danny van Dyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The rationale behind this is the following: > > * certain combinations of suffixes don't make sense. That's highly subjective. > * only recent Portage versions support it. I wouldn't call portage-2.1 "recent" as it

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:54:21 +0200 "Fernando J. Pereda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean real Gentoo users that use a Portage version that don't support > multiple suffixes, right ? People still using portage 2.0.x have much more serious problems. Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] add built_with_use_die() to eutils.eclass ?

2007-04-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:45:48 +0200 dju` <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > eerror "Your ${package} package has been built without" > eerror "${func} support, please enable the '${use_flag}' USE flag and" > eerror "re-emerge ${package}." > elog "You can enable this USE fla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:53:32 -0700 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Commit ebuild > Checksum ebuild > Commit Package Manifest > Checksum Package Manifest > Commit Category Manifest > Checksum Category Manifest > Commit Tree-wide Manifest > Checksum Tree-Wide Manifest and put it somewhere a

Re: [gentoo-dev] $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:40:42 +0200 Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then for b) I like to suggest to ask the portage team to simply skip the > $Header: $ part(s) when calculating the digests, and shove that change > in at the same time manifest1 is obsoleted and migrated into the tree >

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:18:27 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:06:42 +0200 > Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Err, your suggestion was: > > > > * Remove automatic directory making for do* > > Because I was giving a one line summary, rather than a d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty DEPEND strings in virtuals

2007-04-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:50:50 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/portage/virtual $ grep 'DEPEND=""' -r . | wc -l > 97 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/portage/virtual $ find -name "*.ebuild" | wc -l > 102 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/portage/virtual $ find -name "*.ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:41:01 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 15:11:47 -0700 > Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Either way, EAPI=1 *should* have a bit more then just slot deps in my > > opinion; very least it needs discussion to discern what folks

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New metastructure proposal

2007-04-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:21:05 -0400 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 00:59 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > I like the part about projects being self-organizing, but splitting up the > > tree is a no go from my POV. > > Are they not alr

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New metastructure proposal

2007-04-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:32:49 +0200 Alexandre Buisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Please criticize this with everything constructive you > can think of. This idea of putting almost everything into its own repo/overlay will IMO end up in the same mess that several other distros have with to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: extending project xml to have stuff that the project is working on and collect them as Gentoo current goals

2007-04-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:34:25 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As the recent thread showed there is a lot going on in Gentoo land > although it doesn't always seem so. I propose we extend project xml to > describe current stuff going on in the project in question and their > estimate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Suggestion: INVALID -> NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-25 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:27:11 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do others think of NULL or VOID vs. NOTABUG vs. INVALID? I'd object against NULL or VOID, they don't make much sense to me. NOTABUG seems to be the best fit as it's very specific and doesn't leave much room for in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID -> NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:08 +0100 "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Certainly good explanations as to why a bug is being closed are to be > encouraged. My issue isn't with that - it's with the way that the > marking INVALID is perceived, when there's no need to be so harsh. And NOCH

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID -> NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:34:21 +0100 "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked > INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo > Experience. We've all seen it many times, I'm sure. > > Arguably no bug is invalid i

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Package name additions

2007-03-17 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:01:45 +0100 Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Samstag, 17. März 2007, Jakub Moc wrote: > > Actually stuff like cat/pkg-1.2_alpha3_pre4 is valid now and honored by > > portage; dunno how does that fit the netbeans upstream scheme, though. > > The additional post

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Package name additions

2007-03-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:25:17 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hierarchy would be the following > > snapshot -> dev -> build -> alpha -> beta And that's where the problems start. As you said yourself _snapshot is something universal so it doesn't really fit anywher

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:05:10 -0700 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:09:53PM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: > > * Can we find a better name than "the Proctors", please? > > Yes, that's a completely petty point, but it was the first > > one that came to mi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing D into the tree

2007-03-09 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:54:12 +0200 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex Howells wrote: > > On 09/03/07, Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I forgot to add that the dev-lang/dmd-bin ebuild might also require > >> the special DMD license to be included in the tree. I'm at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-04 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 10:03:54 -0700 "Daniel Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a) move PMS discussion off this list That is the whole joke here: It was more or less you who started this discussion. The original mail was Mike mentioning something about a deadline on the PMS project as agenda item

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: EAPI spec (was Re: Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))

2007-02-25 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:51:51 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And irrespective > of whether bug-wranglers have much to say, I'd still want them > involved, as they deal with the ebuild bugs. As such they could well > have ideas or viewpoints which would help. Even if they don't, it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages not yet converted to Manifest2

2007-02-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:40:43 -0800 Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are people using old versions of portage? when flameeyes worked on > this, he did all but *4*(not 4%) so I'm wondering how it creeped back up. Most likely he didn't detect all packages (haven't seen his script). Marius -

[gentoo-dev] Packages not yet converted to Manifest2

2007-02-21 Thread Marius Mauch
While Diego did an awesome job with converting many packages to Manifest2 there are still about 400 packages that aren't converted yet. If you maintain any package in the attached list please update it to use Manifest2. To update a package make sure that you're using portage-2.1.2-r9 or later, r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:35:51 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - I have no clue what's going on with gentoo-stats; See http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/genone?cat=201 -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On 01 Feb 2007 05:30:01 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the > 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) ! > > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mass filing of bugs/Gentoo sanitation

2007-02-02 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:25:55 +0100 Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 19:56 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:29:06 +0100 > > Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > &

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