Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-30 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 30 January 2006 07:41, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > Another example of such issues is when i installed laptop-mode > tools for the first time: it messed my acpid configuration, because > it was adding in /etc/acpi/{events,actions}.d some handlers for > things i had already configu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:15:57 +0100 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | It would be interesting to know how that happened for in the past | for /etc/bash_completion.d, which made a similar move iirc Have you any idea how slow bash is if you use all the completion files for ever

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > It would be interesting to know how that happened for in the past > for /etc/bash_completion.d, which made a similar move iirc Yes, it would. > (although real files went to /usr/share/something, whereas here i > would rather see them in etc because they are mo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:51:29 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And any other "new" file in /etc you also want a USE flag > introduced for? Sounds real scalable. Or is this just an > exception from the rule? Sure it's an exception. I make the difference beetween: - usual /etc/ fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:51:25 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > > Or again another one (a bit ugly imho tho): merge the files in > > an "/etc/logrotate.d.dist" directory, and add an eselect module > > to handle symlinks from "/etc/logrotate.d".

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You want people to recompile the whole package to get another >> text file installed? > > When would one recompile a package just for that? Only case i can > think of is when

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > Or again another one (a bit ugly imho tho): merge the files in an > "/etc/logrotate.d.dist" directory, and add an eselect module to > handle symlinks from "/etc/logrotate.d". What's ugly about this? I like it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 07:46:30AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > We already had this discussion. It's not that it's another file, it's > that it's another file in /etc, which is backed up and requires > administrator attention on every upgrade. Packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Francesco Riosa
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You want people to recompile the whole package to get another >> text file installed? > > When would one recompile a package just for that? Only case i can > think of is when

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:07:15 +0100 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i would not appreciate to see it suddenly handling a new service > because a xinet.d file has been silently added by a new version > of an ebuild. Ok, i see all files i have installed in that dir have disa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You want people to recompile the whole package to get another > text file installed? When would one recompile a package just for that? Only case i can think of is when someone who already has setup his apache / ftp /

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Alin Nastac
Marcelo Góes wrote: > >If INSTALL_MASK is the correct way to prevent logrotate stuff from >being installed, then those 8 ebuilds I mentioned earlier should drop >the USE flag and install it by default. That's probably easier to fix, >too. > > This cannot be done for squid, because this useflag s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Marcelo Góes wrote: | > Indeed, logrotate functionality should be optional. Ebuilds that | > install logrotate stuff without asking should be updated to use the | > logrotate USE flag. | > | > I'm making it a global US

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Marcelo Góes
Reposting since I don't think my last e-mail got through... On 1/29/06, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People who don't want it can set INSTALL_MASK. It should be installed by > default and not switchable with a USE flag. If INSTALL_MASK is the correct way to prevent logrotate stuff

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Alec Warner
Marcelo Góes wrote: > It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: > Perhaps it should be a global USE flag? We have discussed this "fairly recently"[1] so I'll post the link to save everyone the hassle. [1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-dev&w=2&r=1&s=logrotate&q=b > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Marcelo Góes wrote: Indeed, logrotate functionality should be optional. Ebuilds that install logrotate stuff without asking should be updated to use the logrotate USE flag. I'm making it a global USE flag if nobody complains. You want people to recompile the whole package to get another text f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Marcelo Góes
On 1/28/06, Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug Goldstein wrote: > > How about the packages that don't even ask and just install logrotate > > stuff? Like Apache, lighttpd, and mysql? > > > > they should use it, MySQL will be updated when Marcelo make "logrotate" > uf global Indeed,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Francesco Riosa
Doug Goldstein wrote: > Marcelo Góes wrote: >> It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: >> >> use.local.desc:34:app-backup/bacula:logrotate - Install support files >> for logrotate >> use.local.desc:550:mail-filter/dspam:logrotate - Install support files >> for logrotate >> use.lo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Doug Goldstein
Marcelo Góes wrote: > It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: > > use.local.desc:34:app-backup/bacula:logrotate - Install support files > for logrotate > use.local.desc:550:mail-filter/dspam:logrotate - Install support files > for logrotate > use.local.desc:899:net-ftp/vsftpd:lo

[gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Marcelo Góes
It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: use.local.desc:34:app-backup/bacula:logrotate - Install support files for logrotate use.local.desc:550:mail-filter/dspam:logrotate - Install support files for logrotate use.local.desc:899:net-ftp/vsftpd:logrotate - Use logrotate for rotati