[gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-22 Thread Duncan
Pacho Ramos posted on Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:48:59 +0200 as excerpted: El vie, 21-06-2013 a las 09:36 -0500, William Hubbs escribió: [...] No, he has his own versions of the systemd and sysvinit ebuilds which move some of the installation to non-standard places as part of this machinery, so it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-22 Thread Pacho Ramos
After talking with WilliamH yesterday, I have this opinion: - Playing with /sbin/init (instead of /sbin/einit) has two interesting advantages: 1. For example, I now have init=/sbin/e4rat-preload in my grub.conf, if I do a typo, it would fallback to /sbin/init. If /sbin/init is provided by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-22 Thread Michael Weber
On 06/22/2013 12:07 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: After talking with WilliamH yesterday, I have this opinion: - Playing with /sbin/init (instead of /sbin/einit) has two interesting advantages: 1. For example, I now have init=/sbin/e4rat-preload in my grub.conf, if I do a typo, it would fallback to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: === kexec === speaking of panic. I've never actually used it, but newer kernels support kexec and in conjunction with pre-loaded panic-images[1] and corresponding (compiled-in) initramfs, it'd be possible to have an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-22 Thread Luca Barbato
On 06/22/2013 12:07 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: After talking with WilliamH yesterday, I have this opinion: - Playing with /sbin/init (instead of /sbin/einit) has two interesting advantages: 1. For example, I now have init=/sbin/e4rat-preload in my grub.conf, if I do a typo, it would fallback to

[gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-20 Thread Steven J. Long
Fabio Erculiani wrote: - only init is currently handled by eselect-init, which is now using a very small wrapper POSIX shell script to redirect the calls to the currently running init How does say, switching inittab format, work under this setup? -- #friendly-coders -- We're friendly, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-20 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 06:10:27PM +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: Fabio Erculiani wrote: - only init is currently handled by eselect-init, which is now using a very small wrapper POSIX shell script to redirect the calls to the currently running init How does say, switching inittab format,

[gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-03 Thread Duncan
Luca Barbato posted on Mon, 03 Jun 2013 00:35:29 +0200 as excerpted: To not make this a waste of time here a summary of the whole thing: - eselect init will be opt-in for the time being, people can be left on their own tools if the want it - the default init will stay sysvinit. Discussion

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Luca Barbato
On 06/01/2013 11:23 AM, Steven J. Long wrote: That's not an argument for using a symlink switcher or the equivalent across the board, by any means. Your opinion. Firstly, we should be recommending people install Gentoo with enough flexibility to configure and use their system how they

[gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-01 Thread Steven J. Long
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 11:54:48AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: I'm back to the other part of it: switching the actual init implementation. # WHY (not just edit your bootloader) Since efi at least some people started to put in the kernel the bootargs and we have at least few new options

[gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-01 Thread Steven J. Long
In the UEFI arena, why not simply recommend something like rEFIt sorry should have been rEFInd: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ as discussed recently on gentoo-user@. --