On 06/01/2013 11:23 AM, Steven J. Long wrote:
> That's not an argument for using a symlink switcher or the
> equivalent across the board, by any means.

Your opinion.

> Firstly, we should be recommending people install Gentoo with enough 
> flexibility to configure and use their system how they choose. In the
> UEFI arena, why not simply recommend something like rEFIt instead of
> making everyone go through a load of development effort, to restrict
> us all to a crippled use-case?

Beside rEFIt being deprecated and rEFInd being in early stage of
development (thus working great on some platforms and not working at all
on some other) and with a good chunk of documentation to read before
being able of deploying it?

> NOTE: If you still wish to pursue a fixed config, then it's easy
> enough to build it with init=/sbin/einit since presumably you want
> that setup for your users.

Had been considered

> All I'm saying is: can we please stop trying to reinvent the kernel,
> which accepts a bootloader parameter from initramfs as well, and
> focus instead on the difficult part: making sure the system is in a
> fit state to switch in the first place.

...

> That's where the development effort is needed, if you are to provide
> a mechanism to switch. The symlink and hooks etc is a total dead-end,
> imo. It's simply reinventing the wheel using octagons instead of
> circles.

IMHO you hadn't read enough about it.

> There's nothing to stop systemd being the default init, should you
> want to put the install together like that. Because let's be honest:
> someone has to put this install together, irrespective of how
> incapable the end-user is of editing a file by themselves. And just
> because the user can do it simply, that's no reason to make our
> method to do it any more complex (I've never heard such a bizarre 
> argument.) Just edit the file via script.

I do not care about systemd.

> FOCUS on getting the system safe to switch. Not on reinventing
> init/main.c, badly.

You should read the whole thread before commenting like this that late.

lu

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