Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-07 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org wrote: Don't you get that? the janitor gets hit by a car and no ones around to clean the bathrooms. You can't fire him because of contract, his job has to be waiting for him when he gets back in 2 months. what do you do?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-07 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 07/03/2009 09:10, Caleb Cushing a écrit : If you had really been prepared you already had 2 or more janitors. While I really appreciate you comparing us to janitors, ... the answer is not to fire people, but not to be as reliant on single points of failure. if you make it more than 1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-07 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org wrote: While I really appreciate you comparing us to janitors, ... it's an analogy, get over it. I could have called you a secretary or a school teacher, or bus driver, or basically any other job where a replacement has to be found if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-07 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org wrote: Don't you get that? the janitor gets hit by a car and no ones around to clean the bathrooms. You can't fire him because of contract, his job

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Caleb Cushing
I've found that git's patches aren't really what we want in the case of bumping.  For bug reports we usually ask for a patch against the last ebuild in the tree. Is there perhaps a way to make git do that automatically? well, git has copy detection, you can tell if a file is merely a copy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: Your demands because of your feelings of entitlement are what are costing you respect. why do people keep telling me what I feel? anyone else ever notice feelings don't convey well over text. Well, you spoke of owing users,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org wrote: right now you are the kind of person that thinks being a volunteer is a privilege and not a responsibility. You think that because you don't get paid that you don't have to do it. I assure you that if you look at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org wrote: right now you are the kind of person that thinks being a volunteer is a privilege and not a responsibility. You think that because you don't get

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org wrote: Why do you think they should? you must have not read what I said on that bugtracker because I'm thought I was pretty clear, that when you work as a volunteer it's still a job. Don't believe me, go volunteer for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org wrote: Why do you think they should? you must have not read what I said on that bugtracker because I'm thought I was pretty clear, that when you work

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-05 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: Bugzilla is a tool for developers to track progress, not for third-party distributions to track progress. You've forked the tree. That's fine. The license allows that. But it doesn't obligate us to adapt our tools to fit your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-05 Thread Alistair Bush
Caleb Cushing wrote: I'd like to start with, I'm not trying to stir up trouble but since questions were asked i'll answer them. If you think neither should exist why do you have an opinion about this at all? I merged the java-overlay into regen2 a couple of weeks ago. as of right now I've

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-04 Thread Caleb Cushing
Bugzilla is a tool for developers to track progress, not for third-party distributions to track progress. You've forked the tree. That's fine. The license allows that. But it doesn't obligate us to adapt our tools to fit your purpose. I've done lots of version bump bugs over the years. my

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-04 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Thomas Anderson gentoofa...@gentoo.org wrote: eh, that's the problem with ~arch. ~amd64 keywords aren't added for every new version; keywords are carried over from the previous version. Having to test each new version of a package before it receiving a keyword

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-04 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: I'd like to start with, I'm not trying to stir up trouble but since questions were asked i'll answer them. If you think neither should exist why do you have an opinion about this at all? I merged the java-overlay into

[gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-03 Thread Caleb Cushing
I'd like to start with, I'm not trying to stir up trouble but since questions were asked i'll answer them. If you think neither should exist why do you have an opinion about this at all? I merged the java-overlay into regen2 a couple of weeks ago. as of right now I've no plans to support