Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-19 Thread Peter Volkov Alexandrovich
Hello. On Пнд, 2005-09-19 at 20:24 +0900, Chris White wrote: I think the problem here isn't about choice, but support. Mainly deprication is the issue here. GTK2 was meant to be an upgrade of GTK1 interfaces. At some point upstream is going to have to giveup and say Sorry sam, use gtk2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-19 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 03:48:43PM +, John N. Laliberte wrote: * but you are taking away choice! - If a program has both GTK2 and GTK3 interfaces, there are many ways to allow for testing of the experimental interface. For instance, package.mask with a revision number. package.mask isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-19 Thread Mike Gardiner
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 07:28 -0500, Brian Harring wrote: On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 03:48:43PM +, John N. Laliberte wrote: * but you are taking away choice! - If a program has both GTK2 and GTK3 interfaces, there are many ways to allow for testing of the experimental interface. For

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:48:43 + (UTC) John N. Laliberte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to keep gtk1 off of your system: * use the proper, built in methods for this: add =x11-libs/gtk+-1* to /etc/portage/package.mask. Since this may not be that easy for the end-user (lots of ebuilds to avoid

[gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-18 Thread John N. Laliberte
Hello everyone, The GNOME herd has discussed and come to an agreement about the gtk useflag situation. Please keep comments technical and on topic. The solution: There will be just one use flag, gtk. The gtk2 use flag is now deprecated. Reasons: * gtk2 was a temporary solution, was a bad

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 03:48:43PM +, John N. Laliberte wrote: * use flags were designed to enable/disable optional features, not to allow/deny installation of specific packages ( such as gtk-1) * gtk2 was never supposed to mean i want to use gtk-2 only - as the description says in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-18 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 13:43 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: [...] Your decision to remove the gtk2 use flag takes away control from people who were using it correctly (by what the description said). I'm not against having gtk2 on my systems, but I prefer gtk1 interfaces, primarily as they are a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-18 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 17:10 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: I have a different solution that should, no doubt, satisfy both sides: We fork Gentoo. Create a new distro, called GenOne. That has been done, it has become sentient and applied for developer status. You can reach it at [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-18 Thread Chris White
Robin, Your decision to remove the gtk2 use flag takes away control from people who were using it correctly (by what the description said). I'm not against having gtk2 on my systems, but I prefer gtk1 interfaces, primarily as they are a lot more lighter on memory and disk. I think the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-18 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 20:24 +0900, Chris White wrote: [..] Marduk, I have a different solution that should, no doubt, satisfy both sides: We fork Gentoo. Create a new distro, called GenOne. This distro will include only older wares such as GTK1, Kernel 2.4, libc5, XFree86, devfs,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-18 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:28:07 -0500 Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Flaming? I wasn't flaming. There's nothing I said that was the least | bit insulting or controversial. All that I was doing, for the benefit | of the list, is to introduce a little humor with the intent of perhaps |