Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-04 Thread Richard Yao
On 01/03/2013 02:58 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/01/13 15:29, Luca Barbato wrote: last I checked prefix didn't have issues with the pkg-config bootstrap either. there is no circular deps either. check glib deps iirc some non-glibc platforms have few problems with it. not if you enable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-04 Thread Richard Yao
On 01/04/2013 05:31 AM, Richard Yao wrote: On 01/03/2013 02:58 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/01/13 15:29, Luca Barbato wrote: last I checked prefix didn't have issues with the pkg-config bootstrap either. there is no circular deps either. check glib deps iirc some non-glibc platforms have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/01/13 17:28, Matt Turner wrote: On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: i'd say never. there is no benefit in switching. pkg-config is the default implementation from freedesktop.org. pkg-config is now lighter and has less dependencies than before as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 01/01/13 23:01, Jeff Horelick wrote: I would like to propose a switch of the order of DEPENDs in virtual/pkgconfig to make dev-util/pkgconf[pkg-config] the default choice for new installations. dev-util/pkgconf has less external dependencies, is lighter and is faster than dev-util/pkgconfig

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Luca Barbato
On 02/01/13 13:11, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 01/01/13 23:01, Jeff Horelick wrote: I would like to propose a switch of the order of DEPENDs in virtual/pkgconfig to make dev-util/pkgconf[pkg-config] the default choice for new installations. dev-util/pkgconf has less external dependencies, is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Rafael Goncalves Martins
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/01/13 23:01, Jeff Horelick wrote: I would like to propose a switch of the order of DEPENDs in virtual/pkgconfig to make dev-util/pkgconf[pkg-config] the default choice for new installations. dev-util/pkgconf

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: i'd say never. there is no benefit in switching. pkg-config is the default implementation from freedesktop.org. pkg-config is now lighter and has less dependencies than before as the switch from bundled glib1 to glib2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Peter Stuge
Samuli Suominen wrote: i'd say never. there is no benefit in switching. pkg-config is the default implementation from freedesktop.org. That's one awful double standard. :\ dev-libs/libusb is the default implementation from libusb.org, yet you are astonishingly eager to *avoid* that it is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: i'd say never. there is no benefit in switching. pkg-config is the default implementation from freedesktop.org. That's one awful double standard. :\ Double-standards aside, I don't think the original

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: i'd say never. there is no benefit in switching. pkg-config is the default implementation from freedesktop.org. That's one awful double standard. :\ Double-standards aside, I don't think the original implementation is what matters, so much as what works best for our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Jeff Horelick
On 1 January 2013 16:46, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 01/01/2013 22:29, Tony Chainsaw Vroon wrote: That sounds like a clear win. If it has survived the tinderboxing there likely isn't much to hold you back. As non-contentious topics sometimes end up with no replies at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Rich Freeman schrieb: Double-standards aside, I don't think the original implementation is what matters, so much as what works best for our users (and ourselves) in practice. I don't think the original matters either. But I wouldn't mind having libusb over libusbx, jpeg over libjpeg-turbo (did

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/01/13 15:29, Luca Barbato wrote: last I checked prefix didn't have issues with the pkg-config bootstrap either. there is no circular deps either. check glib deps iirc some non-glibc platforms have few problems with it. not if you enable USE=internal-glib. i've added the USE flag on

[gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-01 Thread Jeff Horelick
I would like to propose a switch of the order of DEPENDs in virtual/pkgconfig to make dev-util/pkgconf[pkg-config] the default choice for new installations. dev-util/pkgconf has less external dependencies, is lighter and is faster than dev-util/pkgconfig while being now 100% compatible This

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-01 Thread Tony Chainsaw Vroon
On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 16:01 -0500, Jeff Horelick wrote: dev-util/pkgconf has less external dependencies, is lighter and is faster than dev-util/pkgconfig while being now 100% compatible That sounds like a clear win. If it has survived the tinderboxing there likely isn't much to hold you back.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 01/01/2013 22:29, Tony Chainsaw Vroon wrote: That sounds like a clear win. If it has survived the tinderboxing there likely isn't much to hold you back. As non-contentious topics sometimes end up with no replies at all... consider 48 hours of radio silence an implicit yes. It didn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 01 January 2013 16:46:49 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 01/01/2013 22:29, Tony Chainsaw Vroon wrote: That sounds like a clear win. If it has survived the tinderboxing there likely isn't much to hold you back. As non-contentious topics sometimes end up with no replies at all...