Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-28 Thread bret curtis
Stephen P. Becker wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:48:41 -0400 Stephen P. Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I have a couple indys that I'm willing to donate to anyone willing to | help with sound development What happened to the one you sent to Jeremy? Wasn't he supposed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-27 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:35:17 +0200 Christian Birchinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 03:53:09PM +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: Unfortunatelly this is something different. xmm-pipe lets you control running xmms from commandline (thus binding these commands to keys). It

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-27 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:03:16 +0100 Luis Medinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like we have volunteers to maintain xmms for a couple of years. I offered a good solution but looks like nobody likes it. I'm still open for sugestions. But keep xmms on the future sound herd overlay it's the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 27 August 2006 04:11, Robert Cernansky wrote: On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:03:16 +0100 Luis Medinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like we have volunteers to maintain xmms for a couple of years. I offered a good solution but looks like nobody likes it. I'm still open for sugestions.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-27 Thread Doug Goldstein
Robert Cernansky wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:34:27 +0200 Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:42:27 +0200 Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] mpd (and xmms2) is just a server that is responsible for music playback, functionality such as xosd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:46:32 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | My answer to this ENTIRE thread is to STOP wasting time complaining, | whining and nagging and write the code. Very good solution for the problem that two thirds of the time spent coding is spent fixing other people's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-27 Thread Doug Goldstein
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:46:32 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | My answer to this ENTIRE thread is to STOP wasting time complaining, | whining and nagging and write the code. Very good solution for the problem that two thirds of the time spent coding is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 24 August 2006 20:46, Alec Warner wrote: Robert Cernansky wrote: What bothers me also, is that it has not plugin design like xmms. Support for plugins is very good because lot of people can write plugins for lot of things. This is why people do not want to switch from xmms

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-26 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul de Vrieze wrote: Who cares. It works (mostly), it is lightweight, and there are enough people using it to keep it in the tree. As long as things don't break beyond repair I see no reason whatsoever to remove xmms (or any other largely

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-26 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
Alec Warner wrote: Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Thursday 24 August 2006 20:46, Alec Warner wrote: Robert Cernansky wrote: What bothers me also, is that it has not plugin design like xmms. Support for plugins is very good because lot of people can write plugins for lot of things. This is why

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-25 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:34:27 +0200 Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:42:27 +0200 Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] mpd (and xmms2) is just a server that is responsible for music playback, functionality such as xosd notification can be provided by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-25 Thread Christian Birchinger
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 03:53:09PM +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: Unfortunatelly this is something different. xmm-pipe lets you control running xmms from commandline (thus binding these commands to keys). It allows control volume, skipping in current track (fast forward), do some playlist

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-25 Thread Steve Dibb
So, I'm curious -- did anyone ever come to a decision what to do on the matter? The list traffic seems to be dying down. Maybe I just missed the final decision email. Not that it really matters, but here's my 2 cents: If its a pita to maintain, hard mask everything and just say sorry, no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-25 Thread Alec Warner
Steve Dibb wrote: So, I'm curious -- did anyone ever come to a decision what to do on the matter? The list traffic seems to be dying down. Maybe I just missed the final decision email. Not that it really matters, but here's my 2 cents: If its a pita to maintain, hard mask everything and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-25 Thread Luis Medinas
On Fri, 2006-08-25 at 16:49 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: I don't see how whining about a package you don't maintain, nor helping out with it helps anyone. Either it stays in pmask, or it stays in sunrise (since I would bet 5 bucks it ends up in sunrise after getting punted). The sound team has

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Jakub Moc
Josh Saddler wrote: Please don't remove it, and don't replace it with xmms2. There are far too many media type plugins that work for xmms that audacious and similar players can't handle. Also, will xmms plugins even work in xmms2? And isn't xmms2 still a command line-only application? Not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:30:20PM +0100, Luis Medinas wrote: I'm the current maintainer for xmms and all plugins. As you all know xmms is writen over GTK+-1. This toolkit is not supported by the upstream like xmms. We have lot's of dead upstream plugins on portage and this is a pain to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Jonathan Adamczewski
Robin H. Johnson wrote: don't take XMMS away from those of us already using it without any issues. It can disappear from portage without affecting your ability to keep using it. j. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Luis Medinas
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 05:21 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: The last time this came up, a few months ago, mentioned in somebodies blog, I made an effort to look at both bmpx and audacious. Both used significantly more CPU, and one of them was completely unusable with the size of my playlist

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Anders Hellgren
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Jakub Moc wrote: It's broken like hell (see above) and it's a huge PITA to maintain a thing that's completely dead upstream. For something that's dead, it's been kicking quite a lot this summer:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 03:16:41PM +0200, Pierre Guinoiseau wrote: Robert Cernansky a écrit : On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:30:20 +0100 Luis Medinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most missing is gapless output, so when playing continuous tracks I get ugly spaces between them, brr. Other missing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Dominique Michel
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:12:48 -0400 Stephen P. Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: Luis Medinas wrote: If noone takes it will be saved on overlays.gentoo.org. Everyone needs to know that xmms is old and tired (obsolete). A few developers on redhat, mandriva and suse

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:22:06 +0200 Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, looked at this. It's similar to stadard xmms posibilites. xmms-pipe have much wider posibilites. I use mainly skipping within a track (not to next track) so I can rewind without touching a mouse and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:08:32 +0200 Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sounds like you might want to have a look at http://musicpd.org - in portage as media-sound/mpd or media-sound/mpd-svn. Thank You for the tip. I looked at mpd also (only on web page). It have probably good posibility to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Adriaan Leijnse
Yes, mpd can play streams. Greets, Aidy 2006/8/24, Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:08:32 +0200 Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sounds like you might want to have a look at http://musicpd.org - in portage as media-sound/mpd or media-sound/mpd-svn. Thank You

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:42:27 +0200 Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank You for the tip. I looked at mpd also (only on web page). It have probably good posibility to control it via command line. But what about xosd support? (Which I mention in my previous post.) I do not see any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Alec Warner
Robert Cernansky wrote: What bothers me also, is that it has not plugin design like xmms. Support for plugins is very good because lot of people can write plugins for lot of things. This is why people do not want to switch from xmms because thanks to plugins it have so many features that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Stephen P. Becker wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: Luis Medinas wrote: If noone takes it will be saved on overlays.gentoo.org. Everyone needs to know that xmms is old and tired (obsolete). A few developers on redhat, mandriva and suse marked xmms as obsolete. Now it's our turn to move it to our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Note that neither mplayer or xine work on mips particularly well. Xine Could you please help us fixing it on mips? (in particular currently there is work in improving ffmp3 in order to ditch mad, that has issues with mips iirc) Well, it depends on your definition of help. I'd be perfectly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Stephen P. Becker wrote: Well, it depends on your definition of help. Testing recent snapshots or providing shells would be perfectly fine. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:48:41 -0400 Stephen P. Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I have a couple indys that I'm willing to donate to anyone willing to | help with sound development What happened to the one you sent to Jeremy? Wasn't he supposed to be doing sound things for mips? -- Ciaran

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:48:41 -0400 Stephen P. Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I have a couple indys that I'm willing to donate to anyone willing to | help with sound development What happened to the one you sent to Jeremy? Wasn't he supposed to be doing sound things for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-23 Thread Luis Medinas
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 20:07 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 23 August 2006 16:30, Luis Medinas wrote: So i'm asking for a solution either remove xmms, move the maintainer for anyone who volunteer or the sound herd. no one has answered the previous problems ... xmms is the only