Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-10 Thread Daniel Goller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Northrup wrote: | Joshua Baergen wrote: | | |>>2) There are gentoo.org references to #gentoo-dev, but the process of |>>interfacing, mentoring, and recruiting are self-referential beginning |>>with a bootstrap of being on the good side of an exis

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Jim Northrup wrote: > so if it makes a difference, I approached a dev on #gentoo-dev, and met > with condescending and belittling treatment when i asked for voice. I > will not be going into names or specifics. Please specify it. > > undeterred, I have taken the reccomendations, and rtfm'd an

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-09 Thread Paul Waring
On 6/9/05, Stephen P. Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Without hearing the other side of the story or seeing a transcript of > the conversation, it is hard to say whether whoever this was reacted > properly or not, however I would say they have a major stick up their > ass. Don't assume everybo

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-08 Thread Lance Albertson
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 21:45 -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: > > I was up late on a friday evening hacking up a nifty addition to my > > system and in my excitement and exuberance jumped on IRC to the dev > > channel to get pointers to the best "official" references to ebuild > > crafting and submis

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-08 Thread Stephen P. Becker
> I was up late on a friday evening hacking up a nifty addition to my > system and in my excitement and exuberance jumped on IRC to the dev > channel to get pointers to the best "official" references to ebuild > crafting and submission. > > As it was absolutely silent, I waited a few minutes and r

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-08 Thread Jim Northrup
Joshua Baergen wrote: >>2) There are gentoo.org references to #gentoo-dev, but the process of >>interfacing, mentoring, and recruiting are self-referential beginning >>with a bootstrap of being on the good side of an existing developer. So >>for those of us who do not establish favorable dialogu

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 08 June 2005 07:23 pm, Jim Northrup wrote: > so if it makes a difference, I approached a dev on #gentoo-dev, and met > with condescending and belittling treatment when i asked for voice. generally when someone asks for voice and i dont recognize them i ask why they want it voice ...

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-08 Thread Joshua Baergen
> 2) There are gentoo.org references to #gentoo-dev, but the process of > interfacing, mentoring, and recruiting are self-referential beginning > with a bootstrap of being on the good side of an existing developer. So > for those of us who do not establish favorable dialogues by filing a > bug, t

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-08 Thread Daniel Drake
Jim Northrup wrote: > 1) There is nowhere specified on gentoo.org or gentoo maintained sites > I've rtfm'd specifying any hint of conduct guidelines for being a > developer interfacing with the outside world, representing the > organization. Common social ettiquette does not always reside with >

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-08 Thread Corey Shields
Sorry you had a bad experience. Please do not let the words and actions of one developer reflect on the hundreds of others. On Wednesday 08 June 2005 04:23 pm, Jim Northrup wrote: > 1) There is nowhere specified on gentoo.org or gentoo maintained sites > I've rtfm'd specifying any hint of con

[gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-08 Thread Jim Northrup
to address Luca, Erin, and Patrick as well, and cease the thread hijack implications Rob Holland wrote: >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:59:34AM -0700, Jim Northrup wrote: > > >>might I suggest not kicking #gentoo-dev visitors who ask for voice to >>speak to the devs without a 'rtfm & go get a gento