On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Luca Barbato wrote:
> Fabio Rossi wrote:
>>
>> I'm proposing to reorganize the files related to Gentoo inside /var/lib.
>> Currently we have this situation (at least on my system):
>>
>> /var/lib/eselect
>> /var/lib/gentoo/enews
>> /var/lib/herdstat/
>> /var/lib/mod
Fabio Rossi wrote:
I'm proposing to reorganize the files related to Gentoo inside /var/lib.
Currently we have this situation (at least on my system):
/var/lib/eselect
/var/lib/gentoo/enews
/var/lib/herdstat/
/var/lib/module-rebuild
/var/lib/portage
The main dir should be something like /var/lib
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:28:52 +0100
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> On Thursday 01 of January 2009 23:15:20 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:07:08 +0100
> > > So.. why not blindly use Unix layout everywhere instead (for
> > > Gentoo news as well)
>
> > We do.
>
> /var/lib/gentoo/news
..
On Thursday 01 of January 2009 23:15:20 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:07:08 +0100
> > So.. why not blindly use Unix layout everywhere instead (for Gentoo
> > news as well)
> We do.
/var/lib/gentoo/news
> Seriously, find something useful to change. I realise it's hard around
> he
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:07:08 +0100
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> On Thursday 01 of January 2009 22:03:55 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > No, FHS is not the most commonly used layout. The traditional Unix
> > layout is the most commonly used layout.
>
> So.. why not blindly use Unix layout everywhere instea
On Thursday 01 of January 2009 22:03:55 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> No, FHS is not the most commonly used layout. The traditional Unix
> layout is the most commonly used layout.
So.. why not blindly use Unix layout everywhere instead (for Gentoo news as
well)
On Thursday 01 of January 2009 22:37:28
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
On Wednesday 31 of December 2008 17:28:09 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
You could use the same argument to say "Gentoo must switch to RPM
because LSB says so".
No, I would be invalid argumentation - I know it - you know it, so let's not
continue with discussion of this kind
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:55:13 +0100
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> That being said I'd rather propose to force Gentoo news to comply to
> FHS as FHS is the most commonly used file/directory layout in Gentoo.
No, FHS is not the most commonly used layout. The traditional Unix
layout is the most commonly u
On Wednesday 31 of December 2008 17:28:09 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:21:45 +0100
>
> Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> > On Wednesday 31 of December 2008 16:57:12 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > Gentoo does not comply with the FHS. It was established a long time
> > > ago that FHS is con
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:21:45 +0100
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 of December 2008 16:57:12 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > Gentoo does not comply with the FHS. It was established a long time
> > ago that FHS is considered silly and any compliance is merely
> > because the FHS people somehow
On Wednesday 31 of December 2008 16:57:12 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Gentoo does not comply with the FHS. It was established a long time ago
> that FHS is considered silly and any compliance is merely because the
> FHS people somehow managed to avoid screwing that particular area up.
Well, we're not
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:53:27 +0100
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 of December 2008 15:33:14 Fabio Rossi wrote:
> > Ok, but at the end we have an exception in the tree
> > (/var/lib/gentoo/news/) which is not justified (looking at the
> > current discussion). My proposal has arisen after
On Wednesday 31 of December 2008 15:33:14 Fabio Rossi wrote:
> Ok, but at the end we have an exception in the tree (/var/lib/gentoo/news/)
> which is not justified (looking at the current discussion). My proposal has
> arisen after having seen the /var/lib/gentoo/news/ hierarchy.
Then it seems wa
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:00:35PM +0100, Fabio Rossi wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 December 2008, Marius Mauch wrote:
>
> > The same could be said about /var/lib/init.d, /var/lib/dhcp,
> > /var/lib/iptables or several other packages that aren't hosted by
> > Gentoo. In the other direction, if the pack
El mié, 31-12-2008 a las 15:33 +0100, Fabio Rossi escribió:
> On Wednesday 31 December 2008, Marius Mauch wrote:
>
> > Well, the impact is about the same wether you want to change one or the
> > other (btw, what about other admin tools on Gentoo, e.g.
> > paludis/pkgcore, by your definition they'd
On Wednesday 31 December 2008, Marius Mauch wrote:
> Well, the impact is about the same wether you want to change one or the
> other (btw, what about other admin tools on Gentoo, e.g.
> paludis/pkgcore, by your definition they'd also have to go
> into /var/lib/gentoo, right?)
Yes. So you don't th
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:00:35 +0100
Fabio Rossi wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 December 2008, Marius Mauch wrote:
>
> > The same could be said about /var/lib/init.d, /var/lib/dhcp,
> > /var/lib/iptables or several other packages that aren't hosted by
> > Gentoo. In the other direction, if the packages
On Wednesday 31 December 2008, Marius Mauch wrote:
> The same could be said about /var/lib/init.d, /var/lib/dhcp,
> /var/lib/iptables or several other packages that aren't hosted by
> Gentoo. In the other direction, if the packages are eventually used on
> other distributions/systems, should they
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:55:39 +0100
Fabio Rossi wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 December 2008, Marius Mauch wrote:
>
> > Any reason for that? Aesthetics aren't a very compelling argument
> > IMO, and the FHS also seems to favor the current layout (in my
> > interpretation at least, as we're not really t
On Wednesday 31 December 2008, Philip Webb wrote:
> > /var/lib/eselect -- here
> > /var/lib/gentoo/enews
> > /var/lib/herdstat/
> > /var/lib/module-rebuild -- here
> > /var/lib/portage -- here
>
> It looks neater & simpler to understand in the long run,
> provided it doesn't break
On Wednesday 31 December 2008, Marius Mauch wrote:
> Any reason for that? Aesthetics aren't a very compelling argument IMO,
> and the FHS also seems to favor the current layout (in my
> interpretation at least, as we're not really talking about
> "inter-related applications" in technical terms).
081231 Fabio Rossi wrote:
> I'm proposing to reorganize the files related to Gentoo inside /var/lib.
> Currently we have this situation (at least on my system):
> /var/lib/eselect -- here
> /var/lib/gentoo/enews
> /var/lib/herdstat/
> /var/lib/module-rebuild -- here
> /var/lib/portage
Hi, this possible reorganization will impact how many packages and which one ?
Thanks :P
> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:31:12 +0100
> From: gen...@gentoo.org
> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] reorganization of /var/lib gentoo-related files
>
> On W
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:12:23 +0100
Fabio Rossi wrote:
> I'm proposing to reorganize the files related to Gentoo
> inside /var/lib. Currently we have this situation (at least on my
> system):
>
> /var/lib/eselect
> /var/lib/gentoo/enews
> /var/lib/herdstat/
> /var/lib/module-rebuild
> /var/lib/po
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