Multilib approach(es) Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-30 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, What's the primary Idea behind multilib at all? Isn't it just a workaround to keep prebuild software from lazy/incapable/dead upstreams working (skype, ...)? Is there any other real use besides bragging about processor capabilities and

Re: Multilib approach(es) Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-30 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/30/2013 09:35 AM, Michael Weber wrote: These /qual/ can be anything, like different ABIs, different libc implementations, different keyword (stable, testing), different Distros, - as long as it runs with the current kernel. Well,

Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-30 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:39:16 +0100 Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 27 of January 2013 19:11:16 Micha³ Górny wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:04:14 +0300 Sergei Trofimovich sly...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:30:22 +0100 Micha³ Górny

Re: Multilib approach(es) Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-30 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:35:12 +0100 Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: What's the primary Idea behind multilib at all? Isn't it just a workaround to keep prebuild software from lazy/incapable/dead upstreams working (skype, ...)? Yes. And

Re: Multilib approach(es) Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-30 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/30/2013 10:58 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:35:12 +0100 Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: We don't want 32-bit cp. Thomas likes to support every weird idea coming from a random user, I don't. What is wrong with random

Re: Multilib approach(es) Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-30 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:30:51 +0100 Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/30/2013 10:58 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:35:12 +0100 Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-29 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Sunday 27 of January 2013 19:11:16 Micha³ Górny wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:04:14 +0300 Sergei Trofimovich sly...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:30:22 +0100 Micha³ Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:07:48 + Ciaran McCreesh

Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 27-01-2013 a las 16:12 +0100, Michał Górny escribió: [...] 5. Solutions to specific problems - 1. x11-proto packages Those packages install headers to /usr/include and pkg-config files to /usr/lib64. This supposedly means that the headers could be

Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:12:37 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: RDEPEND=dev-libs/libfoo[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}] dev-libs/libbar[ssl,${MULTILIB_USEDEP}] This looks like it might be a bit fragile. Is it something better addressed by an EAPI extension? -- Ciaran McCreesh

Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-27 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:12:37 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: 5. Solutions to specific problems - 1. x11-proto packages Those packages install headers to /usr/include and pkg-config files to /usr/lib64. This supposedly means that the headers

Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-27 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:07:48 + Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:12:37 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: RDEPEND=dev-libs/libfoo[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}] dev-libs/libbar[ssl,${MULTILIB_USEDEP}] This looks like it might be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-27 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:30:22 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:07:48 + Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:12:37 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: RDEPEND=dev-libs/libfoo[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]

Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-27 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:04:14 +0300 Sergei Trofimovich sly...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:30:22 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:07:48 + Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:12:37 +0100

Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-27 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: 5. Solutions to specific problems - 1. x11-proto packages Those packages install headers to /usr/include and pkg-config files to /usr/lib64. This supposedly means that the headers could be

Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-27 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:14:27 -0800 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: 5. Solutions to specific problems - 1. x11-proto packages Those packages install headers to /usr/include