Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-31 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Dienstag, den 30.10.2012, 22:48 -0700 schrieb Diego Elio Pettenò: On 30/10/2012 22:44, Tiziano Müller wrote: I agree. It really doesn't make sense to keep unbuildable stuff in the tree. The point of slotting it in the first place was also to force a rebuild of reverse dependencies to

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-31 Thread Duncan
Diego Elio Pettenò posted on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:45:27 -0700 as excerpted: On 30/10/2012 17:42, Duncan wrote: icu-49.1.2 seems to build just fine against glibc-2.16.0, here. I just rebuilt to be sure. (With gcc-4.7.2.) I said 1.50+, I'm referring to Boost. Thanks. Makes MUCH more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/eclass: udev.eclass

2012-10-31 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 30-10-2012 23:22:01 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: So exactly what is (your) problem with the current eclass now? Your eclass pretends to support Prefix, but it is broken in that respect, and because some other eclass does it the same way (your claim), you refuse to fix it. -- Fabian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 31/10/12 03:03, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 30/10/2012 17:49, Ryan Hill wrote: And I had to argue to get 1.48 fixed. I'm not sure why we have to keep so many unbuildable versions in the tree. Because as mgorny explained earlier he's expecting some fairy to make it possible to _always_

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/eclass: udev.eclass

2012-10-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 31/10/12 09:50, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 30-10-2012 23:22:01 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: So exactly what is (your) problem with the current eclass now? Your eclass pretends to support Prefix, but it is broken in that respect, and because some other eclass does it the same way (your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/eclass: udev.eclass

2012-10-31 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 31-10-2012 09:51:51 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: I don't do prefix and I'm _always_ expecting a patch from prefix@ for prefix issues. In that case, please don't invent prefix things yourself. Thanks. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level signature.asc Description: Digital

[gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-10-31 Thread Michael Palimaka
Hi all, In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2] into the devmanual[3]. As the project has grown, so has the amount - and dispersion - of development information. I believe consolidation of this information into a single point will make everyone's (especially new

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
Simply look at the metadata.xml files which can be found in each package directory. Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing. Cheers, Dirkjan On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Marco Poletti poletti.ma...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2012/10/31 Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org: That's rather unsurprising... If you're going to file bugs in a semi-automated manner, might as well try to assign to the correct maintainer? Yep he should've assign them, but anyway the annoying elog messages are an issue. And quite few packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: If you're going to file bugs in a semi-automated manner, might as well try to assign to the correct maintainer? How about a policy - no automated bugs may be logged to the bug wranglers without their prior approval/review.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
The php herd is the maintainer, so you should php-b...@gentoo.org (the herd-to-email mapping can probably be found elsewhere). Still, please get more of a feeling for how the Portage tree is put together before doing more automated bug filing, please. Cheers, Dirkjan On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread lists
Maybe you should remember that non-devs simply /aren't allowed/ to assign bugs correctly... And if you look closer into these bugs, you might discover that jer instructed this guy to file separate bugs. (see #440178) aranea signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH distutils-r1 1/2] Explicitly set --build-lib for distutils.

2012-10-31 Thread Michał Górny
Some of the packages want to access that directory (lxml for example), and they have to do globbing to guess the suffix. Since we use per-implementation build dirs anyway, let's just use a simple '/lib' there. I'm doing this for out-of-source builds only since we don't set --build-base for

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH distutils-r1 2/2] Export PYTHONPATH=${BUILD_DIR}/lib for out-of-source builds.

2012-10-31 Thread Michał Górny
This may help a few test suites and shouldn't hurt much of the others (which weren't broken already). Done only for out-of-source builds as that's where we control the build directories. --- gx86/eclass/distutils-r1.eclass | 12 +++- 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-10-31 Thread Sergey Popov
31.10.2012 16:39, Michael Palimaka пишет: Hi all, In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2] into the devmanual[3]. As the project has grown, so has the amount - and dispersion - of development information. I believe consolidation of this information into a single

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-10-31 Thread Sergey Popov
29.10.2012 18:39, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina but would anyone be interested in blocking using lbzip2 by default? It seems pretty safe and I've done dozens of full system builds etc. Why not just make it an option to start, advertise it by

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:18 AM, li...@aixah.de wrote: Maybe you should remember that non-devs simply /aren't allowed/ to assign bugs correctly... And if you look closer into these bugs, you might discover that jer instructed this guy to file separate bugs. (see #440178) Fair points, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: udev.eclass

2012-10-31 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:18:02 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] Don't even try to touch any of my eclasses without prior asking. A bit aggressive but its rather obvious that this is the norm not the exception, meaning the argument 'I do not want to diverge from $other eclass' is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/eclass: udev.eclass

2012-10-31 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:22:01 +0200 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] One of the commits was before anything was said to ML (the EAPI change), the comment was later but the commenter didn't notice it just got fixed minutes before that. I didn't ignore anything, but pointed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: udev.eclass

2012-10-31 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:57:49 -0300 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:18:02 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] Don't even try to touch any of my eclasses without prior asking. A bit aggressive but its rather obvious that this is the norm not

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Chris Reffett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/31/2012 08:52 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: 2012/10/31 Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org: That's rather unsurprising... If you're going to file bugs in a semi-automated manner, might as well try to assign to the correct maintainer? Yep he

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-10-31 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: What do you think? +1 love it. The split is pretty annoying, it would be great to have everything in one place. Cheers, Dirkjan

[gentoo-dev] On the usefulness of eclass changelog

2012-10-31 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:39:44 -0600 Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] The file is pointless if not everyone is using it. I've offered to remove the file before, and I'm reoffering to do so now. It's pointy enough for most uses. Let's keep it that way. I would like to know what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-10-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 31/10/2012 05:39, Michael Palimaka wrote: In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2] into the devmanual[3]. +1 it was on my TODO list for over two years at this point. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the usefulness of eclass changelog

2012-10-31 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 31/10/12 11:26 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:39:44 -0600 Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] The file is pointless if not everyone is using it. I've offered to remove the file before, and I'm reoffering to do so

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the usefulness of eclass changelog

2012-10-31 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:35:41 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 31/10/12 11:26 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:39:44 -0600 Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] The file is pointless if not everyone is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: udev.eclass

2012-10-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 31/10/12 17:09, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:57:49 -0300 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:18:02 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] Don't even try to touch any of my eclasses without prior asking. A bit aggressive but its rather

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:49:37 +0100 Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing. What if you don't have the privilege to assign bugs, but are willing to do the work of filing

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/31/2012 10:05 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:18 AM, li...@aixah.de wrote: Maybe you should remember that non-devs simply /aren't allowed/ to assign bugs correctly... And if you look closer into these bugs, you might discover that jer instructed this guy to file

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/eclass: udev.eclass

2012-10-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 31/10/12 10:56, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 31-10-2012 09:51:51 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: I don't do prefix and I'm _always_ expecting a patch from prefix@ for prefix issues. In that case, please don't invent prefix things yourself. Thanks. Thank you for reviewing the eclass. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the usefulness of eclass changelog

2012-10-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 31/10/12 17:39, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:35:41 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 31/10/12 11:26 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:39:44 -0600 Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/eclass: udev.eclass

2012-10-31 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le mercredi 31 octobre 2012 à 18:08 +0200, Samuli Suominen a écrit : On 31/10/12 10:56, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 31-10-2012 09:51:51 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: I don't do prefix and I'm _always_ expecting a patch from prefix@ for prefix issues. In that case, please don't invent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86/eclass: udev.eclass

2012-10-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 31/10/12 17:04, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:22:01 +0200 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] One of the commits was before anything was said to ML (the EAPI change), the comment was later but the commenter didn't notice it just got fixed minutes before that. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the usefulness of eclass changelog

2012-10-31 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 31/10/12 12:15 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 31/10/12 17:39, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:35:41 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 31/10/12 11:26 AM, Alexis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-10-31 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi all, In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2] into the devmanual[3]. As the project has grown, so has the amount - and dispersion - of development information. I believe

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the usefulness of eclass changelog

2012-10-31 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:26:14 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 31/10/12 12:15 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 31/10/12 17:39, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:35:41 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the usefulness of eclass changelog

2012-10-31 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:26:14 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: I agree, that'd make the whole thing easier. But until repoman can commit in eclass/ it shouldn't be that hard to just run echangelog , as inefficient as that may be. :) https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390651

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the usefulness of eclass changelog

2012-10-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: eclass/ handling should go to repoman and the automated ChangeLog process, should be rather straight forward for knowing person. Perhaps, but right now the policy is to update it, so do it. The policy is also to post

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the usefulness of eclass changelog

2012-10-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 31/10/12 20:17, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: eclass/ handling should go to repoman and the automated ChangeLog process, should be rather straight forward for knowing person. Perhaps, but right now the policy is to update

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-r2.e

2012-10-31 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:32:25 + (UTC) Diego Petteno (flameeyes) flamee...@gentoo.org wrote: flameeyes12/10/31 16:32:25 Modified: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog Added:boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-r2.e

2012-10-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 31/10/2012 11:49, Michał Górny wrote: In other words, you have thrown a big, destructive change to live, stable systems without prior testing (and don't say you were able to test it thoroughly in one day's time) and you have left them for other people to maintain and fix. I am really

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-10-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:26:38 +0100 Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org wrote: +1 and btw move the devmanual in the wiki :D That would rather go against the original idea behind the devmanual, which was that it was supposed to be high quality and authoritative. -- Ciaran McCreesh

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Cyprien Nicolas
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 02:18:42pm +0100, li...@aixah.de wrote: maybe you should remember that non-devs simply /aren't allowed/ to assign bugs correctly... That is not correct. I am no dev and i do have edit-bugs privileges. They were given to me on request by a developer from a project i am

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-10-31 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:26:38 +0100 Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org wrote: +1 and btw move the devmanual in the wiki :D That would rather go against the original idea behind the devmanual, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: udev.eclass

2012-10-31 Thread Markos Chandras
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 31/10/12 17:09, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:57:49 -0300 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:18:02 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] Don't even try

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-10-31 Thread Markos Chandras
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:26:38 +0100 Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org wrote: +1 and btw move the devmanual in the wiki :D That would rather go against the original idea behind the devmanual, which was

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Quoting Chris Reffett (2012-10-31 16:17:20) Yep he should've assign them, but anyway the annoying elog messages are an issue. And quite few packages suffer from it :-) It would actually be hard to find useful message which place is in elog showing up every install. Why not move such thing on

[gentoo-dev] Re: Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-10-31 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:39:14 -0400 Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 11:35 -0700, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: The problem with ICU is worse than you expect. For once, with version 50, it changes ABI (but not soname as far as I can tell) depending on which

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: If you're going to file bugs in a semi-automated manner, might as well try to assign to the correct maintainer? How about a policy - no automated bugs