On 11/14/2013 01:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2013-11-14, o godz. 07:49:55
Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On 11/13/2013 11:02 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
It's also worth pointing out that the whole reason why abi_x86_32 is
{package.,}use.stable.masked is because trying to
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:
So just fix it as problems appear and/or we have some spare time ...
Have any problems appeared that impact anybody who hasn't tried to
take advantage of the new multilib features (ie modified their config
files/etc)?
On 14 November 2013 13:13, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2013-11-14, o godz. 07:49:55
Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On 11/13/2013 11:02 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
It's also worth pointing out that the whole reason why abi_x86_32 is
{package.,}use.stable.masked
On 11/14/2013 08:13 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:
So just fix it as problems appear and/or we have some spare time ...
Have any problems appeared that impact anybody who hasn't tried to
take advantage of the new multilib
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 14 November 2013 13:13, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
And how is it possible to discuss anything properly in Gentoo?
That's because we have no proper leadership. We're an anarchistic
collection of people
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:
Apart from me masking a few things because portage couldn't figure out a
way to a consistent state, and all that ...
That is vague. It may be true, but it does nothing to help anybody
understand what is going on. I
On 14 November 2013 20:32, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 14 November 2013 13:13, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
And how is it possible to discuss anything properly in Gentoo?
That's because we have no
Il 14/11/2013 05:38, Johann Schmitz ha scritto:
long story short having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot
(before the EAPI 5 switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an
old server on a client.
Updating from old portage versions or
profiles isn't fun but it basically boils down to
Il 13/11/2013 20:12, Rich Freeman ha scritto:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Francesco R. viv...@gmail.com wrote:
long story short
having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot (before the EAPI 5 switch)
greatly simplified the upgrade of an old server on a client.
Why not keep a copy on the
Am Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:12:24 -0500
schrieb Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Francesco R. viv...@gmail.com
wrote:
long story short
having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot (before the EAPI 5
switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an old server on a
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Francesco R. viv...@gmail.com wrote:
Rich, that made me smile, none of my remote machine has cvs since a
_very_ long time say 2006.
We are speaking of box that have troubles to emerging anything new, plus
me and most of the internet barely remember cvs up :)
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
I said
As it is always happy to point out, Council doesn't see itself as
leadership, just as a supreme court of appeal, when everything else
seems to have failed. It likes to get involved as little as possible.
The last
On 14 November 2013 23:12, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
I said
As it is always happy to point out, Council doesn't see itself as
leadership, just as a supreme court of appeal, when everything else
seems to have
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
I was particularly hit by this as maintainer of freetype, see bugs
455070 and 459352 for some of the mess that could have been avoided.
Looks like 455070 was the source of problems there (the other is just
a tracker with
Dnia 2013-11-14, o godz. 20:03:36
Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On 11/14/2013 01:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Multilib_porting_status
That's the closest thing to a roadmap.
So just fix it as problems appear and/or we have some spare time ...
Rich Freeman schrieb:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:
So just fix it as problems appear and/or we have some spare time ...
Have any problems appeared that impact anybody who hasn't tried to
take advantage of the new multilib features (ie modified
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:07:39 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
- multilib-portage was planned to add features with a future EAPI
version, so in the end needs agreement from maintainers of package
managers, the pms team and the council. If anyone from those groups
only claims you
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
I wasn't aware last-riting had become general policy. It was originally
started by the treecleaner team to give people time to object to
maintainer-needed removals, and others thought it was a good idea, but it
was
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On 14/11/13 08:19 AM, Lars Wendler wrote:
Once you go the route to use mirror://gentoo in ebuilds as
SRC_URI people are screwed as soon as the ebuild vanishes from
portage. I'd love to see this (mis-)behavior being more vigorously
New try:
Title: Upgrade to GNOME 3.8
Author: Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org
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Posted: 2013-11-14
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Installed: gnome-base/gnome-3.8
Display-If-Installed: gnome-base/gnome-light-3.8
Display-If-Installed: gnome-base/gnome-session-3.8
On 11/15/2013 01:51 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
So tell me, what you exactly want or need? Or is it just bare
complaining for the sake of complaining?
Well, you accidentally cut out all references to TommyD's work again.
Almost as if you don't even want to discuss a working proper solution
that
On 11/15/2013 03:35 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:07:39 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
- multilib-portage was planned to add features with a future EAPI
version, so in the end needs agreement from maintainers of package
managers, the pms team and the council.
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
We are pleased to announce the stabilization of GNOME-3.8. Users are
strongly encouraged to read the GNOME 3.8 Upgrade Guide to avoid any
possible issues relating to the upgrade. The guide will also show you
how to migrate
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Martin Vaeth
va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote:
The new features use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask
have turned maintaining systems with mixed ARCH and ~ARCH keywords
into a nightmare:
I agree. I have helped two friends convert to Gentoo recently
On 15 November 2013 17:56, Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote:
After using it for a month, he's now convinced that
Gentoo is clearly the most difficult to use.
I'm inclined to agree,
I'd have to disagree there slightly, arch is more easy to use if you
stick to the core set, the binary
On 15 November 2013 01:32, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
I was particularly hit by this as maintainer of freetype, see bugs
455070 and 459352 for some of the mess that could have been avoided.
Looks like 455070 was
On Fri, 15 Nov 2013, Ben de Groot wrote:
As I see it now, with respect to multilib, we have three competing
solutions, but not a clear direction which way we want to go as a
distro:
1: emul-* packages
2: multilib-portage
3: multilib.eclass
I would like to vote for option 1, as it is the
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