Hi,
On 11/06/2014 02:43 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
If you're going to go the toolkit route, you should be using a CP
solver, not a SAT solver. But even then you'd be better off making some
changes and not using plain old MAC, so you're back to writing the
algorithms yourself.
What you
On 07/11/14 06:06, Harsh Bhatt wrote:
This idea seems bit interesting, about how the bug tracker works.
In this i just need to confirm that how much mathematical aspect
can be included. It's a good idea to work on.
Also make might enjoy improvements.
lu
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2014, 22:56:21 schrieb Rich Freeman:
I think we are well-served by taking Ciaran's advice here. Utility
eclasses should just passively export functions. Anything that does
overrides
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 11/06/2014 01:53 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
# This eclass contains backports of functions that were accepted
# by the Council for the EAPI following the
On 29/10/14 13:42, Alex Xu wrote:
On 29/10/14 07:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
request for review before committing, suggestions welcome since it's
rather short what
i got to say
thanks,
Samuli
typical news items are in the format packages no longer/now do
thing. [thing is description
On 07/11/14 07:13 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 29/10/14 13:42, Alex Xu wrote:
On 29/10/14 07:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
request for review before committing, suggestions welcome since it's
rather short what
i got to say
thanks,
Samuli
typical news items are in the format packages
On 07/11/14 14:21, Alex Xu wrote:
On 07/11/14 07:13 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 29/10/14 13:42, Alex Xu wrote:
On 29/10/14 07:28 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
request for review before committing, suggestions welcome since it's
rather short what
i got to say
thanks,
Samuli
typical news
On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote:
Hi,
On 11/06/2014 02:43 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
If you're going to go the toolkit route, you should be using a CP
solver, not a SAT solver. But even then you'd be better off making some
changes and not using plain old MAC, so you're back
On 11/07/2014 03:13 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 11/06/2014 01:53 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
# This eclass contains backports of functions that were accepted
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:42:39 +0100
Jauhien Piatlicki jauh...@gentoo.org wrote:
Also may be we need to discuss how can we improve it, as at the moment
for me it seems one of the biggest problems with Gentoo. And afaik
paludis does not solve it (or am I wrong?)
Paludis solves it. However,
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm still concerned that in general we tend to have packages hang
around at older EAPIs for a long time as it is. That isn't really a
problem if those EAPIs are stable and supported for a while. This
seems likely to
On 11/07/2014 07:07 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:42:39 +0100
Jauhien Piatlicki jauh...@gentoo.org wrote:
Also may be we need to discuss how can we improve it, as at the moment
for me it seems one of the biggest problems with Gentoo. And afaik
paludis does not solve it (or
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 19:11:04 +0100
Jauhien Piatlicki jauh...@gentoo.org wrote:
Then the same question for you: where can one read about the algorithm
Paludis uses?
It's basically a two stage process: simple constraint solving using
value ordering heuristics to enforce don't do unnecessary work,
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014, Rich Freeman wrote:
I am still a bit uneasy, but I definitely agree that if we do this I'd
much rather see a series of versioned eclasses than an eclass whose
functionality changes in place over time.
Ulm's point still exists that technically EAPI6 isn't actually
Am 07. Nov 2014, 19:30 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com:
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 19:11:04 +0100
Jauhien Piatlicki jauh...@gentoo.org wrote:
Then the same question for you: where can one read about the algorithm
Paludis uses?
It's basically a two stage process: simple
Hi,
In bug 528086 [1] we have a pre-built games package with a soname
dependency on libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0. The maintainer reports that the
game works fine without this library, so he doesn't want to add a
dependency on sdl-mixer.
In order to satisfy this unneeded soname dependency, preserve-libs
On 11/07/2014 07:54 PM, Matthias Maier wrote:
Well, you're not comparing like with like. Paludis with everything
turned off does more than Portage with everything turned on. If all
you're looking for is the wrong answer as fast as possible, there are
easier ways of getting it...
The last
On 7 November 2014 13:04, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
In bug 528086 [1] we have a pre-built games package with a soname
dependency on libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0. The maintainer reports that the
game works fine without this library, so he doesn't want to add a
dependency on sdl-mixer.
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 19:54:08 +0100
Matthias Maier tam...@gentoo.org wrote:
Currently, for portage just to decide that nothing has to be done on
my machine takes around 1 minute.
Are you running with or without metadata cache? If you're running
without, it's going to be slow independently of the
On 11/07/2014 11:18 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 7 November 2014 13:04, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
In bug 528086 [1] we have a pre-built games package with a soname
dependency on libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0. The maintainer reports that the
game works fine without this library, so he
On 11/07/2014 08:08 PM, hasufell wrote:
On 11/07/2014 07:54 PM, Matthias Maier wrote:
Well, you're not comparing like with like. Paludis with everything
turned off does more than Portage with everything turned on. If all
you're looking for is the wrong answer as fast as possible, there are
On 11/07/2014 08:21 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
The main issue, though, is that getting a good resolution out of
crappy data is extremely difficult. There's the Babbage quote:
| On two occasions I have been asked, — Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put
| into the machine wrong figures, will the
Am 07. Nov 2014, 20:21 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com:
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 19:54:08 +0100
Matthias Maier tam...@gentoo.org wrote:
Currently, for portage just to decide that nothing has to be done on
my machine takes around 1 minute.
Are you running with or without
On 11/07/2014 08:56 PM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote:
I think you didn't get the idea: it doesn't make much sense to compare
the speed if the correctness differs.
Also, I don't understand these discussions. The time dependency
resolving takes is marginal compared to the whole update process, no
07.11.14 21:44, hasufell написав(ла):
On 11/07/2014 08:56 PM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote:
Every time people compare portage to paludis I read stuff like but
paludis is slower. That is incomplete information to put it diplomatic.
Do you really care so much about speed that you don't mind wrong
On 11/07/2014 09:55 PM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote:
07.11.14 21:44, hasufell написав(ла):
On 11/07/2014 08:56 PM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote:
Every time people compare portage to paludis I read stuff like but
paludis is slower. That is incomplete information to put it diplomatic.
Do you really
On 11/07/2014 01:04 PM, hasufell wrote:
Next thing that comes to my mind is: indeterministic results. I'v had
LOTS of them with portage. You run an emerge, abort. You run it again...
and woosh, different result.
This is a result of the solution space being quite large, combined with
hash
On 7 November 2014 13:50, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
Yeah, I figured that we'd get a reaction like this. I just thought I'd
start by proposing some sort of compromise, and then let others fight it
out. :)
Since we got to a positive conclusion on the bug, let's not consider
this
On 11/07/2014 03:25 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 7 November 2014 13:50, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
Yeah, I figured that we'd get a reaction like this. I just thought I'd
start by proposing some sort of compromise, and then let others fight it
out. :)
Since we got to a positive
On 8 November 2014 13:59, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
Okay, sure. I'll save it for the day when someone finds a valid reason
to install binaries with broken soname deps (not likely).
Another candidate for a possible valid reason:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460468
On 8 Nov 2014 01:35, Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 November 2014 13:59, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
Okay, sure. I'll save it for the day when someone finds a valid reason
to install binaries with broken soname deps (not likely).
Another candidate for a possible
# Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org (7 Nov 2014)
# Unmaintained, no longer supported, and starting to throw compilation
# errors (bug #513906, bug #528372). Masked for removal in 30 days.
# Update to lxqt-base/* packages.
razorqt-base/libqtxdg
razorqt-base/razorqt-appswitcher
This adds add support to generate a vdb_metadata_delta.json file
which tracks package merges / unmerges that occur between updates to
vdb_metadata.pickle. IndexedVardb can use the delta together with
vdb_metadata.pickle to reconstruct a complete view of /var/db/pkg,
so that it can avoid expensive
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 00:45:55 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
This adds add support to generate a vdb_metadata_delta.json file
which tracks package merges / unmerges that occur between updates to
vdb_metadata.pickle. IndexedVardb can use the delta together with
vdb_metadata.pickle
On 11/07/2014 08:51 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 00:45:55 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
This adds add support to generate a vdb_metadata_delta.json file
which tracks package merges / unmerges that occur between updates to
vdb_metadata.pickle. IndexedVardb can use
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