Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:24 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > Or one is punished for things others are not. Even if other's actions > are far worse than those of the person being punished. > Considering that we don't disclose whether anybody is punished or what they're

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Wed, 10 May 2017 15:08:40 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > > One of the issues that keeps coming up is around just how > decentralized we are, and that has pros and cons. We're pretty > reluctant to actually enforce just about anything, Facts would show otherwise. Enforcement

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-10 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, K, 10.05.2017 kell 13:17, kirjutas Michael Jones: > From a non-gentoo developer who seriously looked at joining the > community over the last few years as a new developer, this entire > conversation thread is absurd, and is a wonderful example of why I > decided to not bother.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > From a non-gentoo developer who seriously looked at joining the community > over the last few years as a new developer, this entire conversation thread > is absurd, and is a wonderful example of why I decided to not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-10 Thread Michael Jones
>From a non-gentoo developer who seriously looked at joining the community over the last few years as a new developer, this entire conversation thread is absurd, and is a wonderful example of why I decided to not bother. If you don't want people to edit the field such that it's usable with the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 05/10/2017 05:33 PM, David Seifert wrote: > On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 18:22 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: >> > > He doesn't stop: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=617694 > Please drop editbugs privileges for some time. Everyone agrees that > this maintainer-specific metadata is not to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-10 Thread David Seifert
On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 18:22 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, T, 02.05.2017 kell 02:31, kirjutas Andreas K. > Huettel: > > Am Sonntag, 30. April 2017, 12:29:46 CEST schrieb Mart Raudsepp: > > > > > > Please stop editing package lists when you are not the maintainer > > > and > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-10 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, T, 02.05.2017 kell 02:31, kirjutas Andreas K. Huettel: > Am Sonntag, 30. April 2017, 12:29:46 CEST schrieb Mart Raudsepp: > > > > Please stop editing package lists when you are not the maintainer > > and > > arches are already CCed. > > > > +1 > > Please stop it. > And yes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-05 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 4 May 2017, Jeroen Roovers wrote: >Atom Prefix Operators [> >= = <= <] > Sometimes you want to be able to depend on general >versions rather than specifying exact versions all the time. >Hence we provide standard boolean operators: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Tue, 02 May 2017 14:32:13 +0200 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> > On Tue, 2 May 2017, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >> >> > Also very common is that he changes fully qualified package names >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 02 May 2017 14:32:13 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 2 May 2017, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > > > Also very common is that he changes fully qualified package names > > (which is the correct syntax per [1]) into fully qualified package > > atoms

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 2 May 2017 13:05:38 +0200 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > One recent example of non-maintainer activity in the package list > field is bug 613104, where he just removed the entire package list > (and then marked the bug WONTFIX). I've been in desktop-misc@

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2017, 18:27:58 CEST schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > > The much better alternative would be > * Don't do any cosmetic changes. They are pointless for a bot-evaluated > field. * If you need additional keywords or want to drop something, leave > one sentence on the bug with request

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2017, 13:05:38 CEST schrieb Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn: > > Also very common is that he changes fully qualified package names (which > is the correct syntax per [1]) into fully qualified package atoms (which > is the legacy syntax). Bug 616260 is one such example. That's one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2017, 14:32:13 CEST schrieb Ulrich Mueller: > > On Tue, 2 May 2017, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > > Also very common is that he changes fully qualified package names > > (which is the correct syntax per [1]) into fully qualified package > > atoms (which is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-02 Thread Lars Wendler
Hi, On Tue, 2 May 2017 13:05:38 +0200 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >Paweł Hajdan, Jr. schrieb: > Please stop editing package lists when you are not the maintainer and arches are already CCed. >>> +1 >>> >>> Please stop it. >>> And yes that's also true for arch team members.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-02 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 2 May 2017, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Also very common is that he changes fully qualified package names > (which is the correct syntax per [1]) into fully qualified package > atoms (which is the legacy syntax). Bug 616260 is one such example. > [1]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. schrieb: Please stop editing package lists when you are not the maintainer and arches are already CCed. +1 Please stop it. And yes that's also true for arch team members. Package list is maintainer territory. Curious, what are the reasons and what changes people make that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-02 Thread Paweł Hajdan , Jr .
On 02/05/2017 02:31, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Sonntag, 30. April 2017, 12:29:46 CEST schrieb Mart Raudsepp: >> Please stop editing package lists when you are not the maintainer and >> arches are already CCed. > +1 > > Please stop it. > And yes that's also true for arch team members. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-05-01 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 30. April 2017, 12:29:46 CEST schrieb Mart Raudsepp: > > Please stop editing package lists when you are not the maintainer and > arches are already CCed. > +1 Please stop it. And yes that's also true for arch team members. Package list is maintainer territory. -- Andreas K.

[gentoo-dev] Bugzilla package list editing

2017-04-30 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Hello, I would like to point out that the package list is under the responsibility of the maintainers whose packages are getting stabilized, and therefore at least after the point architectures are CC'ed by maintainer, this field is completely off limits for any non- maintainer edits whatsoever.