Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-26 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 14.03.2015 23:25, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Trying to explain to a new user that the Portage tree refers to the collection of ebuilds used by a PMS-compliant package manager (eg Portage) is problematic. Full ack. Let's limit portage to the piece of software, please. Questions: 0. What

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-26 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 15.03.2015 10:48, Ulrich Mueller wrote: If we want a separate repo/ namespace, we would probably need to consider moving other repositories there -- at least the official ones. Of course, it would be a nice result, having everything hosted on git.g.o as git.g.o/repo/${repo_name}.git.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Questions: 0. What names for the tree/repository. 1. We have some namespaces in Git: proj, dev, priv, data, sites, exp; should the tree be in one of those namespaces, a new namespace, or be without a namespace?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-26 Thread Kent Fredric
On 27 March 2015 at 10:32, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: It would be great to logically separate ebuild repositories (main tree and overlays) somehow logically from code, data, ... How about adding an additional level repo for everything that contains ebuild trees?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-19 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 03/14/2015 18:25, Robin H. Johnson wrote: This is a mostly inconsequential issue, but the Git migration provides us a chance to make a clean break... The repository of our ebuilds and the name of the CVS module have been called gentoo-x86 since the start of Gentoo, because it originally

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-19 Thread Jan Matejka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 22:25:56 + Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: Questions: 0. What names for the tree/repository. git://anongit.gentoo.org/portage-tree.git ? 1. afaik everyone is calling it this way already anyway. 2. Since it is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-19 Thread Brian Dolbec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 12:32:41 +0100 Jan Matejka y...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 22:25:56 + Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: Questions: 0. What names for the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Brian Dolbec dol...@gentoo.org wrote: It is that ebuild tree that is the core to what makes it a gentoo system. I think this is really the heart of your argument and others who feel gentoo is the best name for the repository. I'm not going to argue against

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 14 March 2015 at 23:30, Manuel Rüger mr...@gentoo.org wrote: iirc most deb and rpm based distributions use main for their central repository, so +1 for gentoo-main. Add me for gentoo-main too. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes https://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/15/2015 02:07 AM, Michał Górny wrote: The name simply must be 'gentoo'. Agreed: it should match repo_name. As for the namespace, proj/ makes most sense of the current namespaces. I agree with this too, but I don't care if we namespace it or make it top-level.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 15-03-2015 11:20:45 +0100, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: If we want a separate repo/ namespace, we would probably need to consider moving other repositories there -- at least the official ones. Of course, it would be a nice

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 2:07 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Instead of trying to emphasize it's the main repository, we ought to drop the notion of 'main repository'. That was the goal of all changes in Portage, so stop trying to regress for the sake of good ol' times. But, if the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015, Michał Górny wrote: As for the namespace, proj/ makes most sense of the current namespaces. So on gitweb.gentoo.org our main tree would be listed amongst some 200 other proj repositories, between proj/gentoo-wiki-tyrian.git and proj/proj/gentoolkit.git. I think it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: If we want a separate repo/ namespace, we would probably need to consider moving other repositories there -- at least the official ones. Of course, it would be a nice result, having everything hosted on git.g.o as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Kent Fredric
On 15 March 2015 at 21:54, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: . In that vain, gentoo-base could also work? I like this idea. I was initially toying with gentoo-overlay because it was more specific than repo but it didn't float well because the model was wrong. gentoo-base however kinda

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-03-14, o godz. 22:25:56 Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org napisał(a): This is a mostly inconsequential issue, but the Git migration provides us a chance to make a clean break... The repository of our ebuilds and the name of the CVS module have been called gentoo-x86 since the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
gentoo makes a lot of sense to me. gentoo-main works, as well. Anything with ebuilds doesn't make as much as sense to me, since it also contains profiles, eclasses, etc. In that vain, gentoo-base could also work? I don't really get the need for this whole namespacing thing, so I'd prefer to do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote: Outside the context of Portage, repo can mean any git repository of any kind, not merely a portage-usable repository. Yeah, or an RPM repo, or a Mercurial repo... repo as a term is way overloaded, so use it with care

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015, Andreas K Huettel wrote: Questions: 0. What names for the tree/repository. gentoo (it's also the repo_name) portage doesn't make sense, everything else is too long or potentially confusing... Definitely, it should be gentoo. Without portage, x86, or any other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Johannes Huber
Am Samstag, 14. März 2015, 22:25:56 schrieb Robin H. Johnson: This is a mostly inconsequential issue, but the Git migration provides us a chance to make a clean break... The repository of our ebuilds and the name of the CVS module have been called gentoo-x86 since the start of Gentoo,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-15 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 15 March 2015 at 06:34, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: imho, Questions: 0. What names for the tree/repository. gentoo (it's also the repo_name) Our repo is already named gentoo, so this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Manuel Rüger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 14.03.2015 23:37, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: 0. What names for the tree/repository. Suggestions: gentoo-repo gentoo-repository gentoo-main gentoo-repo-main

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Andreas K. Huettel wrote: 0. What names for the tree/repository. gentoo IMO this is the only really accurate name. (it's also the repo_name) There you go. It already has the name gentoo. :) portage doesn't make sense, everything else is too long or potentially confusing... Yes

[gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
This is a mostly inconsequential issue, but the Git migration provides us a chance to make a clean break... The repository of our ebuilds and the name of the CVS module have been called gentoo-x86 since the start of Gentoo, because it originally was only for x86. Here's the very first ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 proj/gentoo would be fine for me (with the same logic as in the wiki that Gentoo is the main project) Personally I would find this a bit confusing so I'd prefer a separate namespace or no namespace, if going for a separate namespace it might

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Ben de Groot
On 15 March 2015 at 06:34, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: imho, Questions: 0. What names for the tree/repository. gentoo (it's also the repo_name) Our repo is already named gentoo, so this makes the most sense. But I wouldn't mind gentoo-main either. But then we should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: Calling it gentoo makes sense, because the entire tree is what makes gentoo. Exactly. And the repo already has this name set in repo_name. But since it's namespaced in ebuilds/ and because ebuilds/ might have other gentoo-official repos too, then perhaps

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Kent Fredric
On 15 March 2015 at 11:37, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Suggestions: gentoo-repo gentoo-repository gentoo-main gentoo-repo-main gentoo-repository-main Similarly in the solve confusion as to purpose for newbies: gentoo-packages gentoo-ebuilds The names would be possibly be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
ebuilds/gentoo.git or ebuilds/gentoo-main.git Namespacing things in ebuilds/ might be convenient in the future if we pursue other types of official ebuild repositories. Calling it gentoo makes sense, because the entire tree is what makes gentoo. But since it's namespaced in ebuilds/ and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld zx...@gentoo.org wrote: Calling it gentoo makes sense, because the entire tree is what makes gentoo. But since it's namespaced in ebuilds/ and because ebuilds/ might have other gentoo-official repos too, then perhaps gentoo-main makes more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: 0. What names for the tree/repository. Suggestions: gentoo-repo gentoo-repository gentoo-main gentoo-repo-main gentoo-repository-main 1. We have some namespaces in Git: proj, dev, priv, data, sites, exp; should the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: Calling it gentoo makes sense The thing is, Gentoo is more than a bunch of ebuilds. Sure, but the gentoo ebuild repo is just a bunch of ebuilds. Gentoo as name can and should be used elsewhere too of course. Certainly they're a HUGE part of Gentoo, but they alone

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Andreas K. Huettel schrieb am 14.03.15 um 23:34 Uhr: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 imho, Questions: 0. What names for the tree/repository. gentoo (it's also the repo_name) +1 My furst idea, too. -- 0x35A64134 - 8AAC 5F46 83B4 DB70 8317 3723 296C 6CCA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 imho, Questions: 0. What names for the tree/repository. gentoo (it's also the repo_name) portage doesn't make sense, everything else is too long or potentially confusing... 1. We have some namespaces in Git: proj, dev, priv, data, sites,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/14/2015 11:34 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: imho, Questions: 0. What names for the tree/repository. gentoo (it's also the repo_name) portage doesn't make sense, everything else is too long or potentially confusing... 1. We have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-14 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Andreas K. Huettel wrote: 0. What names for the tree/repository. gentoo IMO this is the only really accurate name. I completely agree (with everything else in this email as well).