[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-24 Thread Steven J. Long
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 03:48:29PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 06:10:27PM +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: Fabio Erculiani wrote: - only init is currently handled by eselect-init, which is now using a very small wrapper POSIX shell script to redirect the calls to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-04 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Luca, On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 12:35:29AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: Again you should read the whole thread, please do, the whole eselect init stuff should stay opt-in for the time being so all this discussion is close to pointless. Can we please make this remain opt-in always? I too would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-03 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 03-06-2013 a las 00:35 +0200, Luca Barbato escribió: [...] To not make this a waste of time here a summary of the whole thing: - eselect init will be opt-in for the time being, people can be left on their own tools if the want it - the default init will stay sysvinit. Discussion

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-03 Thread Luca Barbato
On 06/03/2013 02:37 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 12:35:29AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote - eselect init will be opt-in ***FOR THE TIME BEING***, people can be left on their own tools if the want it This statement should bring the same reaction as the posting that udev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-03 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 20:37:57 -0400 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 12:35:29AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote - eselect init will be opt-in ***FOR THE TIME BEING***, people can be left on their own tools if the want it This statement should bring the same

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Steven J. Long
On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 11:15:37AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: On 06/01/2013 11:23 AM, Steven J. Long wrote: That's not an argument for using a symlink switcher or the equivalent across the board, by any means. Your opinion. That's not an argument for it either. Firstly, we should be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Steven J. Long sl...@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk wrote: [...] The whole symlink/boot/fallback thing is simply a waste of technical effort. And blanket your opinion and you didn't comment a week ago, so I don't have to deal with the substance of your points don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Luca Barbato
On 06/02/2013 08:20 PM, Steven J. Long wrote: On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 11:15:37AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: On 06/01/2013 11:23 AM, Steven J. Long wrote: That's not an argument for using a symlink switcher or the equivalent across the board, by any means. Your opinion. That's not an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 12:35:29AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote - eselect init will be opt-in ***FOR THE TIME BEING***, people can be left on their own tools if the want it This statement should bring the same reaction as the posting that udev source was being rolled into the systemd tarball.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 12:35:29AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote - eselect init will be opt-in ***FOR THE TIME BEING***, people can be left on their own tools if the want it This statement should bring the same reaction