On 06/03/2013 02:37 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 12:35:29AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote
> 
>> - eselect init will be opt-in ***FOR THE TIME BEING***, people can
>> be left on their own tools if the want it
> 
>   This statement should bring the same reaction as the posting that udev
> source was being rolled into the systemd tarball.  It implies that
> eselect init will eventually become mandatory.

Let me restate:

As long there isn't a strict necessity the whole machinery should not
impact the normal systems with the default init.

>   Your situation is a special use-case, i.e. a developer who wants to
> switch between a "production" init system, and a "test" init system,
> possibly multiple times a day.  You're a developer, you know which files
> to change, put together your own scripts, and run them as necessary.
> Set up your own overlay and write your own eselect init ebuild.  No
> problem.  But why should this eventually be a part of mainstream Gentoo?

e4rat, bootchart and other addons might be more mainstream than
gdb-as-init indeed.

>   BTW, I'm a bigger fan of busybox than most Gentoo users.  Remember the
> announcement of systemd/udev tarball integration, and supposed
> deprecation of a separate /usr?  I was the ****-disturber who started up
> the https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev wiki page on how to replace udev
> with mdev.  I also did a page on automounting at...
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev/Automount_USB/automount  Having said
> that, I don't see how busybox development justifies an additional layer
> of complexity for everybody's bootup.

It isn't every bootup =)

lu

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