On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org wrote:
Setting the option in the profile tells me: Here's this option you can
play with, and we think you might need it. Or not.
Setting the option in the ebuild tells me: You know, we are nice and
give you this option, but
Summarizing this thread:
* move setting USE=dri from default/linux/make.defaults to
targets/desktop/make.defaults
+1 by dilfridge, djc, kensington, vapier, pesa, hwoarang
chitanh, titanofold, zerochaos wants to keep this in default profile
=== done because it's still 2:1 (see remark at
Andreas K. Huettel schrieb:
Summarizing this thread:
* move setting USE=dri from default/linux/make.defaults to
targets/desktop/make.defaults
+1 by dilfridge, djc, kensington, vapier, pesa, hwoarang
chitanh, titanofold, zerochaos wants to keep this in default profile
=== done because
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn schrieb:
* move setting USE=dri from default/linux/make.defaults to
targets/desktop/make.defaults
+1 by dilfridge, djc, kensington, vapier, pesa, hwoarang
chitanh, titanofold, zerochaos wants to keep this in default profile
=== done because it's still 2:1 (see
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Andreas K. Huettel schrieb:
Summarizing this thread:
* move setting USE=dri from default/linux/make.defaults to
targets/desktop/make.defaults
+1 by dilfridge, djc, kensington, vapier, pesa, hwoarang
On 20 January 2013 23:22, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Andreas K. Huettel schrieb:
* move setting USE=dri from default/linux/make.defaults to
targets/desktop/make.defaults
I must say that I am unhappy about this. The packages in question should
not be built with
Ben de Groot schrieb:
On 20 January 2013 23:22, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Andreas K. Huettel schrieb:
* move setting USE=dri from default/linux/make.defaults to
targets/desktop/make.defaults
I must say that I am unhappy about this. The packages in question
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 10:30 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
It seemed like most who were knowledgeable suggested disabling dri was
a bad move. I think it is required for kernel-modesetting among other
things. Why would somebody install xorg and not use dri?
Rich
Since I'm not so
Brian Dolbec schrieb:
But, doesn't your point above very strongly suggest that IUSE=+dri
should be set on those pkgs irregardless of where/if the dri USE flag
should be set in some profile.
We can either set it in the base profile, then there is no need for
IUSE=+dri. Or we can set it in every
On Sunday 20 January 2013 10:54:55 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Ben de Groot schrieb:
On 20 January 2013 23:22, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Andreas K. Huettel schrieb:
* move setting USE=dri from default/linux/make.defaults to
targets/desktop/make.defaults
I must say
Mike Frysinger schrieb:
On Sunday 20 January 2013 10:54:55 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Yes, I mentioned this in another post already. We can use EAPI=1 IUSE
defaults instead. But this will not change any systems so I fail to
see the point behind this. This will only move clutter from
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If we have it as IUSE default, it can be removed from the profiles
entirely. Having it only in the desktop profile is not good in any
scenario I can think of.
chithanh, maybe you can explain to everyone why USE=dri is needed for
base profile.
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:59:24 -0500
Rick \Zero_Chaos\ Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote:
chithanh, maybe you can explain to everyone why USE=dri is needed for
base profile. You seem to be the most knowledgable here, can you
cite a specific example
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote:
If we have it as IUSE default, it can be removed from the profiles
entirely. Having it only in the desktop profile is not good in any
scenario I can think of.
chithanh, maybe you can explain to everyone why
AWS == Aaron W Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org writes:
AWS That's why there's a base desktop profile and desktop/{gnome,kde}
AWS profiles.
/usr/portage/profiles/targets/desktop/make.defaults still has too much
crap for a real base profile for a box which (might) run X or wl.
Also, I suspect the
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 18:03 +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
We can either set it in the base profile, then there is no need for
IUSE=+dri. Or we can set it in every single ebuild that has the dri
flag. I prefer the former because it reduces our maintenance burden.
You make it sound
On 19 January 2013 04:49, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
During the server profile discussion, it became clear that we could clean up
the base profiles a bit. This is unrelated to the profile versions, as the
change would affect all versions (well, at least without bigger
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm not sure whether we need to keep cups at all. I haven't printed
anything from my personal PC or laptop in years. And I'm sure I'm not
the only one.
Won't repeat my previous email, but this is the kind of situation
where
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On 19/01/13 05:33 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org
wrote:
I'm not sure whether we need to keep cups at all. I haven't
printed anything from my personal PC or laptop in years. And I'm
sure
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm not sure whether we need to keep cups at all.
I haven't printed anything from my personal PC or laptop in years.
As a user, I'ld say this wb a very unpopular move with some of us.
I rarely use my 2nd-hand 1995 printer,
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:53:25PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm not sure whether we need to keep cups at all.
I haven't printed anything from my personal PC or laptop in years.
As a user, I'ld say this wb a very
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 21:04 +, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:53:25PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm not sure whether we need to keep cups at all.
I haven't printed anything from my personal PC
This question only matters if you expect there to be non-desktops where
there are packages installed that IUSE dri.
I'd note that there is no correlation between the use of the desktop
profiles and the use of an X11 or wayland server on any given box.
The (gui) world is much more than
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 07:40:56PM -0500, James Cloos wrote:
This question only matters if you expect there to be non-desktops where
there are packages installed that IUSE dri.
I'd note that there is no correlation between the use of the desktop
profiles and the use of an X11 or wayland
During the server profile discussion, it became clear that we could clean up
the base profiles a bit. This is unrelated to the profile versions, as the
change would affect all versions (well, at least without bigger changes).
What I suggested and what djc and kensington supported was:
*
On Friday 18 January 2013 15:49:38 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
During the server profile discussion, it became clear that we could clean
up the base profiles a bit. This is unrelated to the profile versions, as
the change would affect all versions (well, at least without bigger
changes).
What
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Andreas K. Huettel
dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
During the server profile discussion, it became clear that we could clean up
the base profiles a bit. This is unrelated to the profile versions, as the
change would affect all versions (well, at least without
Andreas K. Huettel schrieb:
* move setting USE=dri and USE=cups from default/linux/make.defaults to
targets/desktop/make.defaults
I would prefer to keep USE=dri in the default profile.
If you want to move VIDEO_CARDS that would be fine with me though.
Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher
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On 18/01/13 02:02 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Andreas K. Huettel schrieb:
* move setting USE=dri and USE=cups from default/linux/make.defaults to
targets/desktop/make.defaults
I would prefer to keep USE=dri in the default profile.
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:18:25 -0800
Patrick McLean chutz...@gentoo.org wrote:
USE=dri is usually only relevant on desktops, why enable it on all
profiles?
This question only matters if you expect there to be non-desktops where
there are packages
Patrick McLean schrieb:
I would prefer to keep USE=dri in the default profile. If you want to move
VIDEO_CARDS that
would be fine with me though.
USE=dri is usually only relevant on desktops, why enable it on all
profiles?
Because it should be enabled when the respective packages are
On 18 January 2013 23:29, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Patrick McLean schrieb:
I would prefer to keep USE=dri in the default profile. If you want to move
VIDEO_CARDS that
would be fine with me though.
USE=dri is usually only relevant on desktops, why enable it
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:55:07PM +, Markos Chandras wrote:
On 18 January 2013 23:29, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Patrick McLean schrieb:
I would prefer to keep USE=dri in the default profile. If you
want to move VIDEO_CARDS that would be fine with me
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:58:22 +
Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hell, as discussed, the base profile should contain the absolute
minimal flags, and dri does not appear to be one of these.
Having graphics support on such a profile is not expected. IMHO it
should be moved to
Markos Chandras schrieb:
On 18 January 2013 23:29, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Because it should be enabled when the respective packages are
installed, and not depending on the profile the user has selected.
Hell, as discussed, the base profile should contain the
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 01:02:04AM +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Markos Chandras schrieb:
On 18 January 2013 23:29, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Because it should be enabled when the respective packages are
installed, and not depending on the
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On 01/18/2013 07:02 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Markos Chandras schrieb:
On 18 January 2013 23:29, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Because it should be enabled when the respective packages are
installed, and
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