Re: [gentoo-user] Re: AHCI/IDE-question
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 01/22/2011 12:31 AM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: My notebook works like that too. Hard disk works fine when everything is set to AHCI, but then the system won't boot from CD. So I enabled the IDE driver and the IDE driver for CD-ROMs. My take on this is that
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Non-deprecated Kernel support for ATA CDROM?
Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:06:59PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote On Friday 21 January 2011 20:20:33 Dale wrote: lol You do like I do. I post then figure it out or find a workaround. lol Glad I am not alone on doing this. ;-) Very far from it! A
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 21 January 2011 11:35:06 Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 21 January 2011 11:12:34 kashani wrote: On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so, why are you d
[gentoo-user] How can I turn off xterm console restore?
As soon as some textmode applications in xterm stop, their output gets wiped, and the xterm screen is restored to what it looked like before I launched the app. Somebody thought they were being "helpful"; then again, so did the designers of "Clippy". I don't know how many updates ago the behavi
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Volker Armin Hemmann [11-01-22 03:04]: > On Friday 21 January 2011 21:05:30 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Mark Knecht [11-01-21 20:36]: > > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>I'm happy to be corrected (by Volker I'm sure) but that's m
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Non-deprecated Kernel support for ATA CDROM?
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:06:59PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > On Friday 21 January 2011 20:20:33 Dale wrote: > > > lol You do like I do. I post then figure it out or find a > > workaround. lol Glad I am not alone on doing this. ;-) > > Very far from it! A couple of days ago I was writin
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:11 PM, wrote: >> > > Hi Mark, > > I got this (lspci -tv): > > -[:00]-+-00.0 ATI Technologies Inc RD890 Northbridge only single slot > PCI-e GFX Hydra part > +-00.2 ATI Technologies Inc Device 5a23 > +-02.0-[08]--+-00.0 nVidia Corporation Devi
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Mark Knecht [11-01-22 03:04]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > > > > You could also dig into the internals of the libahci.c driver to figure > > out what all of those display items mean. In this case, your seeing two > > different PCI busses with slightly different
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:59 PM, walt wrote: > On 01/21/2011 01:46 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> I booted into BIOS here. I have an option called "SATA Configuration" >> >> BIOS then gives me another choice "Configure SATA as" > > What was that programmer smoking? Some of the equipment I use at wor
[gentoo-user] Re: AHCI/IDE-question
On 01/21/2011 01:46 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: I booted into BIOS here. I have an option called "SATA Configuration" BIOS then gives me another choice "Configure SATA as" What was that programmer smoking? Some of the equipment I use at work offers choices that are that dumb, and the error messag
[gentoo-user] Re: AHCI/IDE-question
On 01/22/2011 12:31 AM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: My notebook works like that too. Hard disk works fine when everything is set to AHCI, but then the system won't boot from CD. So I enabled the IDE driver and the IDE driver for CD-ROMs. My take on this is that Dell had a vast stock of ch
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Non-deprecated Kernel support for ATA CDROM?
On Friday 21 January 2011 20:20:33 Dale wrote: > lol You do like I do. I post then figure it out or find a > workaround. lol Glad I am not alone on doing this. ;-) Very far from it! -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Friday 21 January 2011 21:05:30 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Mark Knecht [11-01-21 20:36]: > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > > > > > >>I'm happy to be corrected (by Volker I'm sure) but that's my > > >> guess > > >> as to what you're seeing. > > >
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Friday 21 January 2011 11:35:06 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Friday 21 January 2011 11:12:34 kashani wrote: > >> On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> > so, why are you doing soemthing incredible stupid in the f
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Alan McKinnon wrote: My notebook works like that too. Hard disk works fine when everything is set to AHCI, but then the system won't boot from CD. So I enabled the IDE driver and the IDE driver for CD-ROMs. My take on this is that Dell had a vast stock of cheap-skate CD-ROM hardware and used th
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:37 on Friday 21 January 2011, Dale did opine thusly: > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Last thing which remains is: Why does the help of the kernel says > > to both AHCI-settings: "If unsure, say N"... ? > > I just built a rig with a Gigabyte mobo. Mine has set
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:45 PM, wrote: > > Hi, > > I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. > > I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to > configure the SATA ports either for IDE or AHCI or RAID. Forget RAID > for a momen -- I dont use it (no
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:53 PM, wrote: > Hi Dale, > > *IDEA* > > Mark said, that the kernel alone is defining, whether to talk AHCI or > IDE to the harddisk and there is not a single result here from my > experiments, that makes me believe, that Mark is wrong with that... > Mark also said 'Do
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > You could also dig into the internals of the libahci.c driver to figure > out what all of those display items mean. In this case, your seeing two > different PCI busses with slightly different capabilities; just off the > top of my head
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:45:07 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > I did an experiment an disabled AHCI in the kernel (to make the kernel > settings consistent with the BIOS.) > > Result: The kernel did not find the root partition. > You disabled the driver for your hard disk controller and you
[gentoo-user] Re: python wide-unicode problem
On 01/21/2011 07:48 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 01/21/2011 04:26:09 PM, walt wrote: On 01/21/2011 12:13 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, using Python3.1, if I say import site I get File "/usr/lib64/python3.1/site.py", line 472, in setencoding sys.setdefaultencoding(encoding) # Need
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Hi Mike, thank you for your explanations! :) But Mike Edenfield [11-01-21 21:48]: > On 1/21/2011 3:05 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > solfire:/root>dmesg | grep -i ahci > > ahci :00:11.0: version 3.0 > > *0* ahci :00:11.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 >
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Dale [11-01-21 21:44]: > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > >Last thing which remains is: Why does the help of the kernel says > >to both AHCI-settings: "If unsure, say N"... ? > > > > > > > > I just built a rig with a Gigabyte mobo. Mine has setting like yours. > I asked on here and was told
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On 1/21/2011 3:30 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Mike Edenfield [11-01-21 21:28]: >> On 1/21/2011 2:48 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >> >>> My ASUS board offers: >>> RAID >>> IDE >>> AHCI >>> >>> The help to both kernel options mentioned above is saying (beside >>> other things): "If unsu
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.37 : MCE problem
110118 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Philip Webb wrote: >> I've just installed & compiled gentoo-sources-2.6.37 >> & am getting msgs in all my terminals >> Message from syslogd@localhost at Tue Jan 18 14:32:38 2011 ... >> localhost kernel: [Hardware Error]: No human read
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:30 PM, wrote: > > hi Mike, > > I am talking about this two options: > > CONFIG_SATA_AHCI=y > # CONFIG_SATA_AHCI_PLATFORM is not set > > Best regards, > mcc > > > >From Niko a few months ago: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/217204 Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On 1/21/2011 3:05 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > solfire:/root>dmesg | grep -i ahci > ahci :00:11.0: version 3.0 > *0* ahci :00:11.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 > *1* ahci :00:11.0: irq 78 for MSI/MSI-X > *2* ahci :00:11.0: AHCI 0001.0200 32 slots 6 ports
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Last thing which remains is: Why does the help of the kernel says to both AHCI-settings: "If unsure, say N"... ? I just built a rig with a Gigabyte mobo. Mine has setting like yours. I asked on here and was told that AHCI is the "new way" to do things. So,
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Mike Edenfield [11-01-21 21:28]: > On 1/21/2011 2:48 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > My ASUS board offers: > > RAID > > IDE > > AHCI > > > > The help to both kernel options mentioned above is saying (beside > > other things): "If unsure, say N". > > Which kernel options are you speci
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:11 PM, wrote: > > > Last thing which remains is: Why does the help of the kernel says > to both AHCI-settings: "If unsure, say N"... ? > Because if you're not sure you have SATA then you don't need the driver? :-) It could just as easily say "Y" or "M" but they mostl
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Non-deprecated Kernel support for ATA CDROM?
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2011-01-21, Grant Edwards wrote: I've noticed that for quite some time now that ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support been shown as deprecated when configuring a kernel. Unfortunately, that support is the only way I've never been able to get ATAPI CDROMs to work. Are we all sup
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On 1/21/2011 2:48 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > My ASUS board offers: > RAID > IDE > AHCI > > The help to both kernel options mentioned above is saying (beside > other things): "If unsure, say N". Which kernel options are you specifically looking it? There isn't a single option that I
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Mark Knecht [11-01-21 21:04]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, wrote: > > > Hi Mark, > > > > > I thought (which implies "I dont know for sure"), that the BIOS do > > enable/disable certain features, the kernels reads that settings and > > act accordingly -- but definitely this is not true f
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Mark Knecht [11-01-21 21:04]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, wrote: > > > Hi Mark, > > > > > I thought (which implies "I dont know for sure"), that the BIOS do > > enable/disable certain features, the kernels reads that settings and > > act accordingly -- but definitely this is not true f
Re: [gentoo-user] Non-deprecated Kernel support for ATA CDROM?
On 1/21/2011 1:07 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > I've noticed that for quite some time now that ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL > support been shown as deprecated when configuring a kernel. > Unfortunately, that support is the only way I've never been able to > get ATAPI CDROMs to work. > > Are we all supposed to r
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Mark Knecht [11-01-21 20:36]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > > >> > >> I'm happy to be corrected (by Volker I'm sure) but that's my guess > >> as to what you're seeing. > > > > you are confusing bios calls and bios programming chips as also - is > > t
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On 1/21/2011 11:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 21 January 2011 11:12:34 kashani wrote: On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so, why are you doing soemthing incredible stupid in the first place? How about you go have some coffee, maybe have a banana to even out the
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, wrote: > Hi Mark, > > I thought (which implies "I dont know for sure"), that the BIOS do > enable/disable certain features, the kernels reads that settings and > act accordingly -- but definitely this is not true for all settings. > Certainly true for some har
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Mark Knecht [11-01-21 20:36]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > > >> > >> I'm happy to be corrected (by Volker I'm sure) but that's my guess > >> as to what you're seeing. > > > > you are confusing bios calls and bios programming chips as also - is > > t
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Mark Knecht [11-01-21 20:16]: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. > > > > I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to > > configure the SATA ports either for IDE or AHCI or RAID.
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Friday 21 January 2011 11:12:34 kashani wrote: >> On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> > so, why are you doing soemthing incredible stupid in the first place? >> >> How about you go have some coffee, maybe have a b
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> >> I'm happy to be corrected (by Volker I'm sure) but that's my guess >> as to what you're seeing. > > you are confusing bios calls and bios programming chips as also - is there > any good reason to use IDE mode? Any? At all?
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Friday 21 January 2011 11:12:34 kashani wrote: > On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > so, why are you doing soemthing incredible stupid in the first place? > > How about you go have some coffee, maybe have a banana to even out the > blood sugar, take a walk around the block, a
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Friday 21 January 2011 11:08:39 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. > > > > I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to > > configure the SATA ports either for
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so, why are you doing soemthing incredible stupid in the first place? How about you go have some coffee, maybe have a banana to even out the blood sugar, take a walk around the block, and try this email again without being a complete ass?
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > > Hi, > > I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. > > I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to > configure the SATA ports either for IDE or AHCI or RAID. Forget RAID > for a momen -- I dont use it (no
Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
On Friday 21 January 2011 19:45:07 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. > > I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to > configure the SATA ports either for IDE or AHCI or RAID. Forget RAID > for a momen -
[gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question
Hi, I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to configure the SATA ports either for IDE or AHCI or RAID. Forget RAID for a momen -- I dont use it (nothing against RAID ! ;) My box uses a linux 2.6.37 van
[gentoo-user] Re: Non-deprecated Kernel support for ATA CDROM?
On 2011-01-21, Grant Edwards wrote: > I've noticed that for quite some time now that ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL > support been shown as deprecated when configuring a kernel. > Unfortunately, that support is the only way I've never been able to > get ATAPI CDROMs to work. > > Are we all supposed to rip out
[gentoo-user] Non-deprecated Kernel support for ATA CDROM?
I've noticed that for quite some time now that ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support been shown as deprecated when configuring a kernel. Unfortunately, that support is the only way I've never been able to get ATAPI CDROMs to work. Are we all supposed to rip out the drives and replace them with SATA CDROM driv
[gentoo-user] Re: NX, FreeNX, Neatx, x2go?
On 01/21/2011 04:43 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: [...] As FreeNX seems to be dead, I thought I'd give x2go a try. Did anyone have sucess with this? I don't even find proper documentation on how to actually use it. According to [1], the Gentoo documentation is [2]. The last comments state that there i
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python wide-unicode problem
On 01/21/2011 04:26:09 PM, walt wrote: > On 01/21/2011 12:13 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > Hi, > > > > using Python3.1, if I say > > import site > > > > I get > > > >File "/usr/lib64/python3.1/site.py", line 472, in setencoding > > sys.setdefaultencoding(encoding) # Needs Python Unicode
Re: [gentoo-user] NX, FreeNX, Neatx, x2go?
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > What would be the best solution? What do you prefer? I haven't tried FreeNX, x2go or NeatX or any of those, but I'm using nxserver-freeedition for years and using the official NX Client to connect from remote machines (Linux and Windows). Al
[gentoo-user] Re: python wide-unicode problem
On 01/21/2011 12:13 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, using Python3.1, if I say import site I get File "/usr/lib64/python3.1/site.py", line 472, in setencoding sys.setdefaultencoding(encoding) # Needs Python Unicode build ! ValueError: Can only set default encoding to utf-8 But emerge -
[gentoo-user] Re: Mounting the rootfs by UUID?
On 01/21/2011 05:04 AM, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Nils Larsson: On Friday 21 January 2011 04:09:12 walt wrote: Has anyone managed to use that UUID feature to tell the kernel where to find the rootfs? You have to use a initramfs, see: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs#UUID.2FLABEL_Root_Mo
[gentoo-user] NX, FreeNX, Neatx, x2go?
Hi there! I'm using various versions of NX to access remote servers. Normally I use FreeNX, but sometimes NX from nomachine.org, and I also gave Neatx a try, depending on which OS I am using - I do this with Gentoo, Fedora, Ubuntu and openSUSE. This does not work too well. For example, I regularly
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting the rootfs by UUID?
Nils Larsson : > On Friday 21 January 2011 04:09:12 walt wrote: >> Has anyone managed to use that UUID feature to tell the kernel where to >> find the rootfs? > > You have to use a initramfs, see: > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs#UUID.2FLABEL_Root_Mounting Starting from kernel-2.6.37 [1,
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting the rootfs by UUID?
On Friday 21 January 2011 04:09:12 walt wrote: > Has anyone managed to use that UUID feature to tell the kernel where to > find the rootfs? You have to use a initramfs, see: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs#UUID.2FLABEL_Root_Mounting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Rail Model font for coders
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Re: [gentoo-user] The new guy
Ease up,man,and welcome,Nils XD 2011/1/21 Neal Hogan > Am I missing something that indicates the OP is serious? > > On 1/20/11, Paul Hartman > > > wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Nils Andresen > > wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I'm Nils - "the new guy". > >> I have been using gentoo since 200
[gentoo-user] Question about network setup
Hi, I have a Xen host that uses quite a few bridges, that I would like to set up via /etc/conf.d/net. The bridges that are set up to contain a physical interface are easy as I use bridge_add_ethX for that. However some of the domUs shall comminicate internally so I have to set up bridges in the d
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Backing up emails
On Thursday 20 January 2011 18:07:14 Matt Harrison wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 03:46:56PM +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Am 20.01.2011 15:23, schrieb Matt Harrison: > > > I'm hoping someone here has an idea for something that will let me make > > > a copy of all his mail, in the curren
[gentoo-user] python wide-unicode problem
Hi, using Python3.1, if I say import site I get File "/usr/lib64/python3.1/site.py", line 472, in setencoding sys.setdefaultencoding(encoding) # Needs Python Unicode build ! ValueError: Can only set default encoding to utf-8 But emerge -vp dev-lang/python-3.1.3 shows USE="doc gdbm ipv6
