I've just read about the 'new' Linux Counter from a slashdot article, and I
wonder: is there a 'Gentoo Counter' that tracks (voluntarily, of course) the
number of active Gentoo systems in the world?
Rgds,
110910 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> I converted two machines from icedtea (java6) to oracle-jdk-bin (java7).
> I did in effect
> emerge --depclean icedtea icedtea-web =virtual/jdk-1.6.0 =virtual/jdk-1.6.0
> On one machine portage now claims that I basically don't need java
> (see the output of --depcle
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:24:06 PM pk wrote:
> On 2011-09-09 10:53, Dale wrote:
> > Can I slap whoever started this? The more I think on this, the worse it
>
> Yes Dale, you have my permission! And while you're at it, slap him from
> me too! ;-)
>
> It _may_ be this guy that's responsible for this c
I converted two machines from icedtea (java6) to oracle-jdk-bin
(java7).
I did in effect
emerge --depclean icedtea icedtea-web =virtual/jdk-1.6.0 =virtual/jdk-1.6.0
On one machine portage now claims that I basically don't need java (see
the output of --depclean below). Can this be right? More
=== On Sun, 09/11, Alex Schuster wrote: ===
> Interesting. What are the advantages?
Mainly that it's simpler, as a bootloader should be. However it does
have some nice features, such as making nice looking, interactive
menus. You can also edit the config file by hand, if you need to, and
it's all
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Alex Schuster wrote:
> Francisco Ares writes:
>
> > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Alan McKinnon
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:41:39 -0300
> > > Francisco Ares wrote:
>
> > > > I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid
> > >
On 09/10/2011 10:31 AM, Grant wrote:
>>> I just noticed this at the end of my openssl emerge:
>>>
>>> * Running 'c_rehash /etc/ssl/certs/' to rebuild hashes #333069 ...
>>> WARNING: Skipping duplicate file cert_igca_rsa.pem [ ok ]
>> dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e merged.
>>>
>>> Since SSL is so criti
Keith Dart writes:
> === On Fri, 09/09, Alex Schuster wrote: ===
> > What I fear much more is when good old grub is no longer supported
> > and I have to use grub2, which I tried to understand, but failed.
>
> Ya, it's horrid. But the {sys,ext}linux bootloader is still there and
> maintained and I
Francisco Ares writes:
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:41:39 -0300
> > Francisco Ares wrote:
> > > I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid
> > > thing to be done, but now it is done and /var/db is gone for good.
For
Alan McKinnon writes:
> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:34:42 +0200
> Alex Schuster wrote:
> > Since I am on this list, I tend to confuse Alan and Neil. Is this
> > only me?
At least I know by now that you are the South Africa guy.
> Alan's girlfriend says that Alan and Neil are both male bald middle-a
=== On Fri, 09/09, Alex Schuster wrote: ===
> What I fear much more is when good old grub is no longer supported
> and I have to use grub2, which I tried to understand, but failed.
===
Ya, it's horrid. But the {sys,ext}linux bootloader is still there and
maintained and I like it better. I use ext
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 23:15:19 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:34:51 +0200
>
> Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > On Saturday, 10. September 2011 17:19:36 Alex Schuster wrote:
> > > Michael Schreckenbauer writes:
> > > > On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:50:30 Alex Schuste
Alan McKinnon wrote:
Since I am on this list, I tend to confuse Alan and Neil. Is this only
me? girlfriend says that Alan and Neil are both male bald middle-aged
pedantic old gits with a fascination for the writing of Douglas Adams.
And they are both grammar Nazis. She is not in the least surpr
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:19:10 -0400
Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Dale wrote:
> > Mick wrote:
> > From my understanding, the dev is not listening. That is another
> > thing that bothers me. When devs stop listening to users, that
> > causes a problem. Remember hal? How
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:34:42 +0200
Alex Schuster wrote:
> > Me either. That's when I had to accept that I was a true chatter
> > box. O_O I wonder if Neil knows this? He may not realize how many
> > he sends either.
>
> Since I am on this list, I tend to confuse Alan and Neil. Is this
> onl
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:34:51 +0200
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, 10. September 2011 17:19:36 Alex Schuster wrote:
> > Michael Schreckenbauer writes:
> > > On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:50:30 Alex Schuster wrote:
> > > > What you need to do is to tell portage you accept the lic
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 17:29:21 Francisco Ares wrote:
> Well, --nodeps did no work, as portage claims that it is incompatible with
> --emptytree , that it is forcing as there is no more /var/db
Ok. Did not know, that portage forces emptytree in this situation.
> I have also tried to incl
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:41:39 -0300
> Francisco Ares wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid thing
> > to be done, but now it is done and /var/db is gone for good.
> >
> > Well, that is a g
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Francisco Ares wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:41:39 Francisco Ares wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid thing to
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:41:39 -0300
Francisco Ares wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid thing
> to be done, but now it is done and /var/db is gone for good.
>
> Well, that is a good opportunity to have everything built again, time
> to try new CFLA
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:41:39 Francisco Ares wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid thing to
> be
> > done, but now it is done and /var/db is gone for good.
>
> *
Hi,
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:41:39 Francisco Ares wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid thing to be
> done, but now it is done and /var/db is gone for good.
*bummer*
> Well, that is a good opportunity to have everything built again, time
Hi All,
I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid thing to be
done, but now it is done and /var/db is gone for good.
Well, that is a good opportunity to have everything built again, time to try
new CFLAGS, and so on.
But there is a circular dependency that I do not know how
William Kenworthy wrote:
Actually, thats a bit optimistic - 2002
moriah ~ # ls -alth /var/backups/rattus/20110710/tree/etc/
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 104 Sep 6 2003 hsf
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root80 May 13 2003 sysconfig
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root72 Jan 7
On Sun, 2011-09-11 at 01:33 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 02:54 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > You give me too much credit :-)
> > >
> > > There's also Neil, Wonko, Volker, Stroller, Grant, meino.cramer, Mick,
> > > Paul, Harry, Albert, Alex, Walter, Ala
On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 02:54 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > You give me too much credit :-)
> >
> > There's also Neil, Wonko, Volker, Stroller, Grant, meino.cramer, Mick,
> > Paul, Harry, Albert, Alex, Walter, Alan Mackenzie (awesome name!),
> > James, kashani, Pandu and about a 1000
>> I just noticed this at the end of my openssl emerge:
>>
>> * Running 'c_rehash /etc/ssl/certs/' to rebuild hashes #333069 ...
>> WARNING: Skipping duplicate file cert_igca_rsa.pem [ ok ]
> dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e merged.
>>
>> Since SSL is so critical I thought I should run it by you guys.
On 09/08/2011 05:51 PM, Grant wrote:
> I just noticed this at the end of my openssl emerge:
>
> * Running 'c_rehash /etc/ssl/certs/' to rebuild hashes #333069 ...
> WARNING: Skipping duplicate file cert_igca_rsa.pem [ ok ]
dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e merged.
>
> Since SSL is so critical I though
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> On Sep 10, 2011 11:22 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote:
>>
>> As I understand it, nothing of udev itself is in /usr, but instead
>> packages and scripts which plug themselves into udev to be triggered
>> by various events.
>>
>> Perhaps the real so
Michael Mol wrote:
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Dale wrote:
Mick wrote:
From my understanding, the dev is not listening. That is another thing that
bothers me. When devs stop listening to users, that causes a problem.
Remember hal? How many people complained early on about the config
On Sep 10, 2011 11:22 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote:
>
> As I understand it, nothing of udev itself is in /usr, but instead
> packages and scripts which plug themselves into udev to be triggered
> by various events.
>
> Perhaps the real solution is to circumvent udev and get those other
> packages and s
Dale writes:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:54:58 -0500
> > Dale wrote:
> >
> >> That is true. There are lots who post a lot here. I just recall
> >> seeing some stats somewhere and me and you were the top two. That
> >> was about a year ago so it may have changed. Just had
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> From my understanding, the dev is not listening. That is another thing that
> bothers me. When devs stop listening to users, that causes a problem.
> Remember hal? How many people complained early on about the config files?
> Lots.
Mick wrote:
I've flirted with Slackware before I came over to Gentoo and the
reason I chose Gentoo is because it gave me more freedom to built and
configure an OS exactly as I wanted it. I was at the time thinking of
trying BSD with portage, but when I was keeping an eye on it there was
this s
On Sat, Sep 10 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, 10. September 2011 11:28:07 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> My daily update world caused the merging of oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0
>> (after wonko explained how to handle a license question).
>>
>> But my next step is emerge --depclean --ask
>>
Michael Schreckenbauer writes:
> Thanks. The difference is, that package.license is per package.
> So one could set ACCEPT_LICENSE in make.conf and override this setting
> for some packages in package.license.
> Now I wonder, what the use-cases would be?
> Why would one accept a specific license f
Alex Schuster wrote:
Dale writes:
pk wrote:
On 2011-09-09 13:35, Alex Schuster wrote:
When I switched to using an initramfs, it was not very complicated. I
simply use genkernel. With CLEAN="no" and MRPROPER="no", it uses my
/usr/src/linux/.config and does not change the kernel options. Then
On Sep 10, 2011 10:06 PM, "Dale" wrote:
>
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:54:58 -0500
>> Dale wrote:
>>
>>> That is true. There are lots who post a lot here. I just recall
>>> seeing some stats somewhere and me and you were the top two. That
>>> was about a year ago so it m
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 17:19:36 Alex Schuster wrote:
> Michael Schreckenbauer writes:
> > On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:50:30 Alex Schuster wrote:
> > > What you need to do is to tell portage you accept the license by
> > > putting the >=dev-java/... line into /etc/portage/package.lic
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 11:28:07 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> My daily update world caused the merging of oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0
> (after wonko explained how to handle a license question).
>
> But my next step is emerge --depclean --ask
> This wanted to unmerge the above package and, if permitted
My daily update world caused the merging of oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0
(after wonko explained how to handle a license question).
But my next step is emerge --depclean --ask
This wanted to unmerge the above package and, if permitted to
do so, caused a subsequent update word to remerge it.
I then wisely
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 11:13:29 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> Why do I need this sun/oracle jdk when I already have
> icedtea installed? Indeed, the next step in my normal procedure is
> to run emerge --depclean --ask, which then wanted to remove the just
> installed package. I will report thi
Michael Schreckenbauer writes:
> On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:50:30 Alex Schuster wrote:
> > What you need to do is to tell portage you accept the license by
> > putting the >=dev-java/... line into /etc/portage/package.license. Or
> > you could add the --autounmask-write switch to your eme
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:59:20 +0200
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > (As an aside I had thought idedtea replaced the need for oracle/sun
> > 's jdk. I do have installed sun/oracle 's java-sdk-docs.)
>
> That's true. You can unmerge the sun-jdk and emerge icedtea instead.
> In my experience, i
On Sat, Sep 10 2011, Alex Schuster wrote:
> Allan Gottlieb writes:
>
>> My update world today produced
>>
>>
>> So I need the Oracle-BCLA-JavaSE license. But I don't see where it
>> tells me how to do this. Previous license requests said something like
>> * go to URL xxx
>> * click on YYY
>> *
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:50:30 Alex Schuster wrote:
> Allan Gottlieb writes:
> > My update world today produced
> >
> > [nomerge ] dev-java/icedtea-6.1.10.3 USE="hs20 nsplugin nss
> >
> > webstart xrender -cacao -debug -doc -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2
> > -pulseaudio -sy
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:54:58 -0500
Dale wrote:
That is true. There are lots who post a lot here. I just recall
seeing some stats somewhere and me and you were the top two. That
was about a year ago so it may have changed. Just had to go find
that link again. Here it is
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 10:38:48 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> My update world today produced
>
> [nomerge ] dev-java/icedtea-6.1.10.3 USE="hs20 nsplugin nss
> webstart xrender -cacao -debug -doc -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2
> -pulseaudio -systemtap -zero" [nomerge ] dev-ja
Hi,
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
My update world today produced
[nomerge ] dev-java/icedtea-6.1.10.3 USE="hs20 nsplugin nss webstart
xrender -cacao -debug -doc -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2 -pulseaudio -systemtap
-zero"
[nomerge ] dev-java/ant-nodeps-1.8.1
[ebuild NS
Allan Gottlieb writes:
> My update world today produced
>
> [nomerge ] dev-java/icedtea-6.1.10.3 USE="hs20 nsplugin nss
> webstart xrender -cacao -debug -doc -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2
> -pulseaudio -systemtap -zero" [nomerge ]
> dev-java/ant-nodeps-1.8.1 [ebuild NS]
My update world today produced
[nomerge ] dev-java/icedtea-6.1.10.3 USE="hs20 nsplugin nss webstart
xrender -cacao -debug -doc -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2 -pulseaudio
-systemtap -zero"
[nomerge ] dev-java/ant-nodeps-1.8.1
[ebuild NS] virtual/jre-1.7.0 [1.6.0]
FWIW, it seems to work with cups with the following configuration in
/etc/cups/printers.conf
(I just let the printer acquire an IP from the dhcpd server on the lan,
and let cupsd discover the new printer,
and tried gutenprint-ijs-simplified.5.2 as the driver for it from
package net-print/gutenprin
Dale writes:
> pk wrote:
> > On 2011-09-09 13:35, Alex Schuster wrote:
> >
> >> When I switched to using an initramfs, it was not very complicated. I
> >> simply use genkernel. With CLEAN="no" and MRPROPER="no", it uses my
> >> /usr/src/linux/.config and does not change the kernel options. Then
>
Dale writes:
> I know one thing, BSD is secure as heck. I installed it once on a old
> rig and typed the password in wrong during setup. I never could get
> into that thing again. I had to start over.
That's what you thought :) Normally, all you have to do is to boot in
single user mode, th
On Saturday 10 Sep 2011 08:36:59 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:23:42 -0400
>
> Michael Mol wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Dale wrote:
> > > Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> > >> Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 19:24:06 schrieb pk:
> > >>> On 2011-09-09 10:53, Dale wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:54:58 -0500
Dale wrote:
> That is true. There are lots who post a lot here. I just recall
> seeing some stats somewhere and me and you were the top two. That
> was about a year ago so it may have changed. Just had to go find
> that link again. Here it is:
>
> http://ar
On Friday 09 Sep 2011 14:31:23 BRM wrote:
> - Original Message -
>
> > From: Mick
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...
> > OK, so if you restore the two lines and this error goes away, can you
> > then initialise the device without any other errors?
>
> So far as I am
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:25:22 -0500
Dale wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'm lucky, I can vote with my feet. Out of 140, I have two servers
that *require* Linux. One runs Sybase ASE, the other runs Oracle.
Everything else works like a bomb on FreeBSD. kthankxbyeudev,
thanksfor
Alan McKinnon wrote:
You give me too much credit :-)
There's also Neil, Wonko, Volker, Stroller, Grant, meino.cramer, Mick,
Paul, Harry, Albert, Alex, Walter, Alan Mackenzie (awesome name!),
James, kashani, Pandu and about a 1000 more whose names I can't exactly
recall right now.
This here mail
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:23:42 -0400
Michael Mol wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Dale wrote:
> > Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> >>
> >> Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 19:24:06 schrieb pk:
> >>>
> >>> On 2011-09-09 10:53, Dale wrote:
>
> Can I slap whoever started this? The more
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:58:23 -0500
Dale wrote:
> Michael Mol wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Dale wrote:
> >> I may go the BSD route too if I leave Gentoo. So, my feet works
> >> too. I wonder if I would even be missed here? :/
> > I'd hate it if you left. In the short time I've be
On 2011-09-10 03:49, Dale wrote:
> If I recall correctly, Gentoo is sort of based on BSD. I don't think
> using their target would solve the problem with udev tho.
FreeBSD uses "Ports" which Portage is based on, AIUI. The FreeBSD kernel
doesn't use udev. They do have a similar thing though calle
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:25:22 -0500
Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > I'm lucky, I can vote with my feet. Out of 140, I have two servers
> > that *require* Linux. One runs Sybase ASE, the other runs Oracle.
> > Everything else works like a bomb on FreeBSD. kthankxbyeudev,
> > thanksfornotp
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