[gentoo-user] abi_x86_32

2013-03-28 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
I recently switched from no- to multilib. In yesterday's emerge I got tens of blockers due to conflict with emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20130224. I solved as suggested in http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-953900.html?sid=f7a643eca8ec01540164578f372c374f and http://bugs.gentoo.org/461608 that is by

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/03/2013 04:56, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/27/2013 05:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/03/2013 22:41, Michael Mol wrote: The case for systemd is twofold: ... 2) Reduce the amount of CPU and RAM consumed when you're talking about booting tens of thousands of instances simultaneously

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thu, March 28, 2013 07:59, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 28/03/2013 04:56, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/27/2013 05:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/03/2013 22:41, Michael Mol wrote: The case for systemd is twofold: ... 2) Reduce the amount of CPU and RAM consumed when you're talking about

[gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Norman Rieß
Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I googled around on how to prevent this but did not really find something usefull. Does anyone got an idea about this?

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Adam Carter
Typically you would just allow recursion from networks you trust. Why are you making your server available to everyone? Read this one? https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/security

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] user folder in path when mounting

2013-03-28 Thread the guard
Среда, 27 марта 2013, 16:05 -07:00 от Grant emailgr...@gmail.com: I've been mounting my external HD in thunar. When I clicked the device icon, the HD was mounted to /media/VOLUME_LABEL/. Now I see the path has changed to /run/media/grant/VOLUME_LABEL/ and the grant folder is: drwxr-x---+ 3

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Sync, emerge -puND world, and WHAM!!! ~100 packages to merge.

2013-03-28 Thread the guard
Среда, 27 марта 2013, 18:09 UTC от Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de: Hi, Gentoo! Has anybody else seen this? I did a sync, then emerge -puND world and got a list of ~100 packages to merge. About a third of them seem to be new perl stuff, 13 packages with gnome, and a lot of this and that. Most

Re: [gentoo-user] set eth0:0 on boot....

2013-03-28 Thread Tamer Higazi
Thank you! Helped me very much Tamer Am 26.03.2013 23:02, schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 26/03/2013 23:55, Tamer Higazi wrote: Hi people! I am looking for a way, to set eth0:0 at the moment the system is booting is there a way?! I always have to set it by hand by doing: ifconfig

[gentoo-user] gnustep-base-1.24.3 fails to merge....

2013-03-28 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi people! I can't update on my gentoo box gnustep-base. Always I get the error I don't seem to be able to use your Objective-C compiler to produce working binaries! Please check your Objective-C compiler installation. If you are using gcc-3.x make sure that your compiler's libgcc_s and libobjc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Sync, emerge -puND world, and WHAM!!! ~100 packages to merge.

2013-03-28 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 01:48:21PM +0400, the guard wrote: Среда, 27 марта 2013, 18:09 UTC от Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de: Hi, Gentoo! Has anybody else seen this? I did a sync, then emerge -puND world and got a list of ~100 packages to merge. About a third of them seem to be new perl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Sync, emerge -puND world, and WHAM!!! ~100 packages to merge.

2013-03-28 Thread Mateusz Kowalczyk
On 28/03/13 11:52, Alan Mackenzie wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 01:48:21PM +0400, the guard wrote: Среда, 27 марта 2013, 18:09 UTC от Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de: Hi, Gentoo! Has anybody else seen this? I did a sync, then emerge -puND world and got a list of ~100 packages to merge.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/28/2013 03:51 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thu, March 28, 2013 07:59, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 28/03/2013 04:56, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/27/2013 05:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/03/2013 22:41, Michael Mol wrote: The case for systemd is twofold: ... 2) Reduce the amount of CPU and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/28/2013 12:28 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-03-27, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: The case for systemd is twofold: 1) Boot-to-desktop session management by one tool. Ah, the old universal generic tool approach. I've seen a lot of money and time poured into black-hole

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?

2013-03-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 27 March 2013 18:16:22 Walter Dnes wrote: OK, I'll go with... MAKEOPTS=-j2 --load-average=3 This box is an i5 with four single-threaded CPUs and I limit the average load to 8. Since emerge is running at niceness=3 the desktop remains responsive throughout. I used not to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/03/2013 15:16, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/28/2013 03:51 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thu, March 28, 2013 07:59, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 28/03/2013 04:56, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/27/2013 05:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/03/2013 22:41, Michael Mol wrote: The case for systemd is twofold:

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Turn off this unnecessary crap? Am 28.03.2013 09:52 schrieb Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I googled around on how

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/28/2013 10:35 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 28/03/2013 15:16, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/28/2013 03:51 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thu, March 28, 2013 07:59, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 28/03/2013 04:56, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/27/2013 05:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/03/2013 22:41,

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/28/2013 04:51 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I googled around on how to prevent this but did not really find something

[gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
Hello Everyone, Just got a ticket assigned to me where we need to update our production servers. uname -a Linux noun 3.4.9-gentoo #2 SMP Sat Oct 13 09:35:07 EDT 2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux eselect [18] hardened/linux/amd64 * I don't think they have been

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Just got a ticket assigned to me where we need to update our production servers. uname -a Linux noun 3.4.9-gentoo #2 SMP Sat Oct 13 09:35:07 EDT 2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz GenuineIntel

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 28, 2013 10:38 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/28/2013 04:51 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/28/2013 12:06 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Mar 28, 2013 10:38 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com mailto:mike...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/28/2013 04:51 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is,

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
So basically rsync configs and databases first? When issuing updates to world and so no. What is the safest process/order to sync portage, and update world? I have seen a number of flags various example use, and was wondering if someone can give me the safest and equally effective commands with

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/28/2013 11:38 AM, Nick Khamis wrote: Hello Everyone, Just got a ticket assigned to me where we need to update our production servers. uname -a Linux noun 3.4.9-gentoo #2 SMP Sat Oct 13 09:35:07 EDT 2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux eselect [18]

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Jarry
On 28-Mar-13 9:51, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I googled around on how to prevent this but did not really find something usefull.

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
Hahahah udev hell!! I did go through that updating from 2.6 to 3.4. That was quite an experience But for kernel 3.* has udev not been phased out in our gentoo boxes? Will have to double check when I get back behind a console. N. On 3/28/13, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/28/2013 12:56 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: Hahahah udev hell!! I did go through that updating from 2.6 to 3.4. That was quite an experience But for kernel 3.* has udev not been phased out in our gentoo boxes? Will have to double check when I get back behind a console. I'm afraid not!

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
So basically, no long weekend for me here in Canada. Thanks a lot guys for your time.Wish me luck. Happy easter/holidays!!! N. On 3/28/13, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 03/28/2013 12:56 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: Hahahah udev hell!! I did go through that updating from 2.6 to 3.4.

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/28/2013 01:16 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: So basically, no long weekend for me here in Canada. Thanks a lot guys for your time.Wish me luck. Happy easter/holidays!!! I'm being a bit dramatic. I would plan on spending ~4 hours researching, planning, and documenting the udev upgrade. Maybe an

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
First hickup emerge -puDN1 world !!! Unable to parse profile: '/etc/portage/make.profile' !!! ParseError: Profile contains unsupported EAPI '5': '/usr/portage/profiles/eapi-5-files/eapi' !!! Your current profile is invalid. If you have just changed your profile !!! configuration, you should

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/28/2013 01:43 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: First hickup emerge -puDN1 world !!! Unable to parse profile: '/etc/portage/make.profile' !!! ParseError: Profile contains unsupported EAPI '5': '/usr/portage/profiles/eapi-5-files/eapi' !!! Your current profile is invalid. If you have just

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 28.03.2013 21:49, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 03/28/2013 01:43 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: First hickup emerge -puDN1 world !!! Unable to parse profile: '/etc/portage/make.profile' !!! ParseError: Profile contains unsupported EAPI '5': '/usr/portage/profiles/eapi-5-files/eapi' !!! Your current

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
I switched to the default profile from hardened: eselect profile list Available profile symlink targets: [1] default/linux/x86/13.0 * env-update !!! Unable to parse profile: '/etc/portage/make.profile' !!! ParseError: Profile contains unsupported EAPI '5':

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
But we never changed our profile? Always running hardened server. N. On 3/28/13, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: I switched to the default profile from hardened: eselect profile list Available profile symlink targets: [1] default/linux/x86/13.0 * env-update !!! Unable to parse

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
As mentioned earlier a temporary change of profile got me on my way eselect profile set 0 env-update eselect profile set 7 Moving forward... Thanks guys. On 3/28/13, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: But we never changed our profile? Always running hardened server. N. On 3/28/13, Nick

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Dale
Nick Khamis wrote: Hahahah udev hell!! I did go through that updating from 2.6 to 3.4. That was quite an experience But for kernel 3.* has udev not been phased out in our gentoo boxes? Will have to double check when I get back behind a console. N. Just a thought. Have you thought

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Norman Rieß
Am 28.03.2013 16:38, schrieb Michael Mol: On 03/28/2013 04:51 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I googled around on how to prevent

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Nick Khamis
Yeah these guys seem to think that our servers MUST run on the hardened profile... On 3/28/13, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Nick Khamis wrote: Hahahah udev hell!! I did go through that updating from 2.6 to 3.4. That was quite an experience But for kernel 3.* has udev not been phased

Re: [gentoo-user] abi_x86_32

2013-03-28 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Raffaele BELARDI raffaele.bela...@st.com wrote: I recently switched from no- to multilib. In yesterday's emerge I got tens of blockers due to conflict with emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20130224. I solved as suggested in

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-28 Thread Dale
Nick Khamis wrote: Yeah these guys seem to think that our servers MUST run on the hardened profile... I just wanted to mention it in case its existence had slipped your mind. I know when the time came, I switched from udev to eudev and it has worked fine for my desktop. I plug in cameras,

Re: [gentoo-user] Best whois client?

2013-03-28 Thread Stroller
On 27 March 2013, at 23:37, Michael Orlitzky wrote: ... Like Stroller I've been using net-misc/whois for ever and it does what I want, but don't know what the other packages may be able to do/do better. I would also be interested to find out why people prefer using these. They're all

[gentoo-user] Re: abi_x86_32

2013-03-28 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 28/03/13 20:39, Paul Hartman wrote: Like the forum post you linked says, instead of setting abi_x86_32 as a USE flag, what you can do in your make.conf is set: ABI_X86=64 32 (if you want to build both 32bit and 64bit) I think ABI_X86=32 is enough, since on AMD64 the 64 is always there

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/03/2013 17:38, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/28/2013 04:51 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I googled around on how to prevent

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?

2013-03-28 Thread Stroller
On 28 March 2013, at 14:03, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... This box is an i5 with four single-threaded CPUs … Your usage of the term CPUs is making me twitch.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/28/2013 03:16 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 28/03/2013 17:38, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/28/2013 04:51 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Paul Ezvan
Le 28/03/2013 17:53, Jarry a écrit : On 28-Mar-13 9:51, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I googled around on how to prevent this but did

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/03/2013 21:38, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/28/2013 03:16 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 28/03/2013 17:38, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/28/2013 04:51 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:12:04 +0100 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I googled around on how

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Or just use the ISP's DNS caches. In the vast majority of cases, the ISP knows how to do it right and the user does not. Generally true, though I've known people to choose not to use ISP caches owing to the ISP's

[gentoo-user] Re: user folder in path when mounting

2013-03-28 Thread Grant
I've been mounting my external HD in thunar. When I clicked the device icon, the HD was mounted to /media/VOLUME_LABEL/. Now I see the path has changed to /run/media/grant/VOLUME_LABEL/ and the grant folder is: drwxr-x---+ 3 root root which I think is preventing my automated remote

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Kevin Chadwick
listened to the dangers and even now simply redesigned DNSSEC. Or they could fudge it by making every request requiring padding larger than the response. Bandwidth would increase astronomically but amp attacks would have to find other avenues.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/28/2013 04:53 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Or just use the ISP's DNS caches. In the vast majority of cases, the ISP knows how to do it right and the user does not. Generally true, though I've known people to

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/28/2013 04:57 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: listened to the dangers and even now simply redesigned DNSSEC. Or they could fudge it by making every request requiring padding larger than the response. Bandwidth would increase astronomically but amp attacks would have to find other avenues.

[gentoo-user] Re: cyrus-sasl necessary with localhost webmail?

2013-03-28 Thread Grant
I recently switched from Thunderbird to Roundcube (highly recommended), switched to the non-SSL courier daemon, and plugged the firewall hole since courier resides on the same system as my web server. Do I still need cyrus-sasl or will a webmail client authenticate directly with courier? I

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Norman Rieß
Am 28.03.2013 10:07, schrieb Adam Carter: Why are you making your server available to everyone? For the lulz mostly.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:04:25 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: listened to the dangers and even now simply redesigned DNSSEC. Or they could fudge it by making every request requiring padding larger than the response. Bandwidth would increase astronomically but amp

Re: [gentoo-user] Best whois client?

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/28/2013 03:11 PM, Stroller wrote: The search I made before posting led me the wikipedia article which mentioned, for example, using thick and thin client models. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whois#Thin_and_thick_lookups One might assume, for example, that a thin client might tend to

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?

2013-03-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 March 2013 19:28:47 Stroller wrote: On 28 March 2013, at 14:03, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... This box is an i5 with four single-threaded CPUs … Your usage of the term CPUs is making me twitch. What would you have said? And it wasn't usage, it was use. -- Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 March 2013 20:53:49 Paul Hartman wrote: In my case, my ISP's DNS servers are slow (several seconds to reply), fail randomly when they should resolve, return an IP (which goes to their ad-laden helper website if you are using a web browser) when they should instead return

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?

2013-03-28 Thread Mateusz Kowalczyk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/03/13 00:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 28 March 2013 19:28:47 Stroller wrote: On 28 March 2013, at 14:03, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... This box is an i5 with four single-threaded CPUs … Your usage of the term CPUs is making me

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?

2013-03-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 29 March 2013 01:24:48 Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: I can only imagine he was pointing out that you have a single CPU with four cores in it. You're right, of course. I should have said /cores/. -- Peter

[gentoo-user] emul-linux-x86-libs blocking tons of X libs

2013-03-28 Thread Mateusz Kowalczyk
I've been experiencing this issue whenever I tried to update in the fairly recent weeks/days. ‘emerge -avutND’ produces a long list of packages (see attachment) and then fails due to a block. [blocks B ] =app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20130224

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS=--jobs --load-average=5' silly?

2013-03-28 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Friday 29 March 2013 01:24:48 Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: I can only imagine he was pointing out that you have a single CPU with four cores in it. You're right, of course. I should have said /cores/. --