Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Mick
On Saturday 20 Jul 2013 06:12:40 Dale wrote: > Bruce Hill wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 08:34:27PM -0500, Dale wrote: > >>> Stop using disk and build in RAM: > >>> > >>> tmpfs /var/tmp/portagetmpfs > >>> size=7000M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 tmpfs /

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 21 Jul 2013 00:45:55 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 07:02:35 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > > > Yes, and it's mounted ro to minimise the risk of such damage. > > > > I used to do this (keeping a rescue partitio) ... but found it was > > useful only some of the time. Nowad

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:14:22 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > This sin't a rescue partition, it's just a GRUB menu entry and a copy > > f the ISO in /boot, so far less maintenance even than making sure a > > USB stick stays put. Plus it is much faster to boot. > > An interesting idea you presen

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Saturday 20 Jul 2013 06:12:40 Dale wrote: Bruce Hill wrote: If 16GB of RAM wasn't enough, ydiw. I've used that line of 7G forever, and run app-office/libreoffice, as well as firefox and some other big app (forget it's name) and _never_ had a problem. Well, a while back, OOo and

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:02:48 -0500, Dale wrote: I also keep the last two versions of sysrescue for my USB stick. How do you copy one to a stick when you need to rescue an unbootable system? I prefer to keep the ISO in /boot, no need for a USB stick then. It's hard to p

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:50:29 -0500, Dale wrote: Neil, you know how payback is right? ROFL That's the one with Mel Gibson? It starts with a B. Ironic huh? Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Mick
On Sunday 21 Jul 2013 10:40:11 Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > On Saturday 20 Jul 2013 06:12:40 Dale wrote: > >> Bruce Hill wrote: > >>> If 16GB of RAM wasn't enough, ydiw. I've used that line of 7G forever, > >>> and run app-office/libreoffice, as well as firefox and some other big > >>> app (forget

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:57:24 +0100, Mick wrote: > > Actually, portage looks for enough space before even starting and > > still does. However, when I force it to ignore it, it stops and says > > it ran out of space. I'd just rather it didn't use swap anyway. > > Either way, OOo and LOo used to n

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Sunday 21 Jul 2013 10:40:11 Dale wrote: Actually, portage looks for enough space before even starting and still does. However, when I force it to ignore it, it stops and says it ran out of space. I'd just rather it didn't use swap anyway. Either way, OOo and LOo used to need l

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 04:50:42 -0500, Dale wrote: > > That's the one with Mel Gibson? > > > > > > It starts with a B. Ironic huh? Actually, his surname appears to mean "son of a GibiBit" ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Hm..what's this red button fo|'ยป.'NO CARRIER signature.asc Description: PGP sign

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 21 Jul 2013 10:21:45 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:14:22 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > What a lot of work! > > Yes, probably too much. > > > Oh, or I could sacrifice (part of) a swap partition to expand /boot > > into. > > That would be easier, you could always add m

[gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread luis jure
OK, now i have my system successfully installed and running on my new SSD. now i have to decide what to do with the rest of the disk (it's a 256MB samsung). the first big question is: what about swap? i found some web pages (perhaps old) stating that it's not wise to put swap on the SSD because o

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread Jarry
On 21-Jul-13 16:31, luis jure wrote: so what i'm planning to do now is: - put swap on the SSD - reduce swappiness - put /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs so, do you guys think that's a good setup? Sounds good to me. But with 12GB RAM the question is: Do you need swap at all? Jarry -- __

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread Peter Wilmott
On 21/07/13 15:31, luis jure wrote: OK, now i have my system successfully installed and running on my new SSD. now i have to decide what to do with the rest of the disk (it's a 256MB samsung). the first big question is: what about swap? i found some web pages (perhaps old) stating that it's not

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/07/2013 16:34, Jarry wrote: > On 21-Jul-13 16:31, luis jure wrote: >> >> so what i'm planning to do now is: >> >> - put swap on the SSD >> - reduce swappiness >> - put /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs >> >> so, do you guys think that's a good setup? > > Sounds good to me. But with 12GB RAM the ques

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread luis jure
on 2013-07-21 at 15:42 Peter Wilmott wrote: > TBH, unless you are really stressing your RAM usage (Lots of VMs or Java > applications, stuff like that) I'd go without swap. it's true that most of the time 12BG is more than enough for me and i don't use swap space on disk. i wouldn't go for a swa

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 21.07.2013 17:39, schrieb luis jure: > on 2013-07-21 at 15:42 Peter Wilmott wrote: > >> TBH, unless you are really stressing your RAM usage (Lots of VMs or Java >> applications, stuff like that) I'd go without swap. > > it's true that most of the time 12BG is more than enough for me and i > d

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 21. Juli 2013, 11:31:41 schrieb luis jure: > OK, now i have my system successfully installed and running on my new SSD. > now i have to decide what to do with the rest of the disk (it's a 256MB > samsung). > > the first big question is: what about swap? i found some web pages > (perhap

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 21:39:29 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > - put /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs > > good, but also put /tmp on tmpfs. Doesn't the FHS spec say that /var/tmp should survive a reboot? So the correct approach is to put /tmp on a tmpfs and set PORTAGE_TMPDIR to /tmp. -- Nei

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
should - not must have to survive. And nothing in /var/tmp/portage is important enough. So just let it get lost. I would not put PORTAGE_TMPDIR to /tmp because if it accidentally fills up, you have a big problem. While a seperate tmpfs /var/tmp/portage... well nobody cares if it is full. Yeah, eme

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread William Kenworthy
On 21/07/13 22:31, luis jure wrote: > > OK, now i have my system successfully installed and running on my new SSD. > now i have to decide what to do with the rest of the disk (it's a 256MB > samsung). > > the first big question is: what about swap? i found some web pages > (perhaps old) stating t

[gentoo-user] openssl-1.0.1c problems

2013-07-21 Thread Alexandre Riveira
I can not use openssl-1.0.1c as in the example below: wget https://qasecommerce.cielo.com.br/servicos/ecommwsec.do I can not use openssl with ruby Currently I use 1.0.0j is works perfectly But some libraries depend version 1.0.1.c including libreoffice-bin I appreciate everyone's help. Alexandre

[gentoo-user] Question about qemu QEMU_SOFTMMU_TARGETS and QEMU_USER_TARGETS

2013-07-21 Thread Walter Dnes
I'm usually pretty good a Google, but I've run into a brick wall with qemu's QEMU_SOFTMMU_TARGETS and QEMU_USER_TARGETS settings. I find that wine on a 64-bit-only machine does not support 32-bit Windows programs. Years ago, I was able to build a 32-bit qemu Gentoo guest, and run wine 32-bit mod

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about qemu QEMU_SOFTMMU_TARGETS and QEMU_USER_TARGETS

2013-07-21 Thread Kerin Millar
On 22/07/2013 06:56, Walter Dnes wrote: I'm usually pretty good a Google, but I've run into a brick wall with qemu's QEMU_SOFTMMU_TARGETS and QEMU_USER_TARGETS settings. I find that wine on a 64-bit-only machine does not support 32-bit Windows programs. Years ago, I was able to build a 32-bit

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/07/2013 00:19, William Kenworthy wrote: > swap: this will make one of the bigger speedups to the system when you > need swap. swap is good - yes you can do without it, but the day comes > when you REALLY do want it, and ... [crash!] ... otherwise it can just > sit there waiting :) > > /etc/

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about qemu QEMU_SOFTMMU_TARGETS and QEMU_USER_TARGETS

2013-07-21 Thread Wang Xuerui
2013/7/22 Walter Dnes : > I'm usually pretty good a Google, but I've run into a brick wall with > qemu's QEMU_SOFTMMU_TARGETS and QEMU_USER_TARGETS settings. I find that > wine on a 64-bit-only machine does not support 32-bit Windows programs. > Years ago, I was able to build a 32-bit qemu Gento