Re: [gentoo-user] Open Question: The feasibility of a complete portage binhost

2015-01-22 Thread Sam Bishop
On 21 January 2015 at 22:44, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Sam Bishop wrote: >> >> I don't see why it can't be all the combinations, the issue is >> storage, and the storage costs could be a lot lower than expected >> given how hard it is to guess. > > I don't believe tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Picking dom0 OS for new XEN server

2015-01-22 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
On 22. jan. 2015 08:49, Tomas Mozes wrote: On 2015-01-22 08:32, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: Pondering dom0 os for new Xen server (Xeon e5 2620 v3 cpu) . Server is for home use. (routing/firewall; dns/dhcp, mail servers, etc. etc; linux gui desktop; linux media-server; windows as separate domains).

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Question: The feasibility of a complete portage binhost

2015-01-22 Thread Sam Bishop
On 22 January 2015 at 01:54, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Mittwoch 21 Januar 2015, 20:36:55 schrieb Sam Bishop: >> So I've been thinking crazy thoughts. >> >> Theoretically it can't be that hard to do a complete package binhost for >> gentoo. >> >> To be clear, when i say complete, Im referring

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Question: The feasibility of a complete portage binhost

2015-01-22 Thread Sam Bishop
On 21 January 2015 at 23:53, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > I actually had kind of a cool idea while walking to the bus stop this > morning; a JIT Portage server that builds packages on demand. This would > require: > > * Writing a portage server > * Patching portage to connect to said server > Or...

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Question: The feasibility of a complete portage binhost

2015-01-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 16:43:32 +0800, Sam Bishop wrote: > I'll quote from the binpkg docs: > >> Next to these, portage will check if the binary package is built > >> using the same USE flags as expected on the client. If a package is > >> built with a different USE flag combination, portage will eit

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Question: The feasibility of a complete portage binhost

2015-01-22 Thread Sam Bishop
On 22 January 2015 at 17:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 16:43:32 +0800, Sam Bishop wrote: > >> I'll quote from the binpkg docs: >> >> Next to these, portage will check if the binary package is built >> >> using the same USE flags as expected on the client. If a package is >> >> bui

Re: [gentoo-user] Openrc now on Arch LInux

2015-01-22 Thread Emre Eryilmaz
2015-01-22 0:32 GMT+02:00 James : > It seems Openrc is spreading? > > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenRC > > Anyone tested openrc on Arch linux? I have read in several places > that Arch linux has moved to systemd, exclusively? Did you read the web page's beginning ? :) " Note: Arch u

Re: [gentoo-user] Picking dom0 OS for new XEN server

2015-01-22 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2015-01-22 09:46, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: On 22. jan. 2015 08:49, Tomas Mozes wrote: On 2015-01-22 08:32, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: Pondering dom0 os for new Xen server (Xeon e5 2620 v3 cpu) . Server is for home use. (routing/firewall; dns/dhcp, mail servers, etc. etc; linux gui desktop; linu

[gentoo-user] Re: Openrc now on Arch LInux

2015-01-22 Thread James
Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > > Anyone tested openrc on Arch linux? I have read in several places > > that Arch linux has moved to systemd, exclusively? > Don't believe everything you read. You'll probably also read that > Gentoo doesn't use systemd. :) https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.

[gentoo-user] Re: Openrc now on Arch LInux

2015-01-22 Thread James
taozhijiang tp-link.com.cn> writes: >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenRC >> Anyone tested openrc on Arch linux? I have read in several places >> that Arch linux has moved to systemd, exclusively? > why ask this question in Gentoo user land? Openrc is developed by Gentoo folks. [1

[gentoo-user] Re: Openrc now on Arch LInux

2015-01-22 Thread James
Emre Eryilmaz piesso.com> writes: > > Anyone tested openrc on Arch linux? > Did you read the web page's beginning ? :) > " Note: Arch uses systemd by default. If you use OpenRC, please > mention so while asking for help." I think that stating what codes you are using, that might affect helps

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Question: The feasibility of a complete portage binhost

2015-01-22 Thread Bruce Schultz
On 22 January 2015 7:20:07 PM AEST, Sam Bishop wrote: >On 22 January 2015 at 17:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 16:43:32 +0800, Sam Bishop wrote: >> >>> I'll quote from the binpkg docs: >>> >> Next to these, portage will check if the binary package is built >>> >> using the same

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Question: The feasibility of a complete portage binhost

2015-01-22 Thread Bruce Schultz
On 22 January 2015 8:50:29 PM AEST, Bruce Schultz wrote: > > >On 22 January 2015 7:20:07 PM AEST, Sam Bishop >wrote: >>On 22 January 2015 at 17:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 16:43:32 +0800, Sam Bishop wrote: >>> I'll quote from the binpkg docs: >> Next to these, po

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Open Question: The feasibility of a complete portage binhost

2015-01-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag 22 Januar 2015, 16:50:45 schrieb Sam Bishop: > On 22 January 2015 at 01:54, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Am Mittwoch 21 Januar 2015, 20:36:55 schrieb Sam Bishop: > >> So I've been thinking crazy thoughts. > >> > >> Theoretically it can't be that hard to do a complete package binho

Re: [gentoo-user] Download of source for file-5.22 blocked by firewall?

2015-01-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 1/21/2015 4:45 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:58:05 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> Changed mirror setting in make.conf to: >> >> http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/ >> >> and all is well now... >> >> Guess there is a problem with mirror.datapipe? > > That's why I have sev

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openrc now on Arch LInux

2015-01-22 Thread Jc García
2015-01-22 4:23 GMT-06:00 James : > Emre Eryilmaz piesso.com> writes: > > >> > Anyone tested openrc on Arch linux? > >> Did you read the web page's beginning ? :) >> " Note: Arch uses systemd by default. If you use OpenRC, please >> mention so while asking for help." > > > I think that stating wha

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Open Question: The feasibility of a complete portage binhost

2015-01-22 Thread Jc García
2015-01-22 6:11 GMT-06:00 Andreas K. Huettel : > Am Donnerstag 22 Januar 2015, 16:50:45 schrieb Sam Bishop: >> On 22 January 2015 at 01:54, Andreas K. Huettel > wrote: >> > Am Mittwoch 21 Januar 2015, 20:36:55 schrieb Sam Bishop: >> >> So I've been thinking crazy thoughts. >> >> >> >> Theoreticall

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-22 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote: > Zitat von Tom H : >> >> Lennart claims that the embedded world loves systemd. I suspect that, >> as in other corners of the Linux world, there are lovers and haters of >> systemd. > > Embedded systems also quite often means low on resources, C

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Tom H wrote: > > Samsung's starting to release Tizen-driven phones, TVs, white goods, > etc. Tizen uses systemd and, given the size of Samsung, the number of > systemd embedded devices is going to skyrocket in the next few years. > Samsung wouldn't have chosen syst

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-22 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Tom H wrote: >> Samsung's starting to release Tizen-driven phones, TVs, white goods, >> etc. Tizen uses systemd and, given the size of Samsung, the number of >> systemd embedded devices is going to skyrocket

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-22 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
On 19.01.2015 22:49, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > I learned my first steps with ansible around these ansible-playbook(s): > > https://github.com/jameskyle/ansible-gentoo Here my changes in a fork of the mentioned ansible-role: https://github.com/stefangweichinger/ansible-gentoo Maybe someone

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Tom H wrote: > > I'm also curious about the future ChromeOS init. Upstart is, sadly, > walking dead (IIUC Ubuntu'll stop using it in 2019 once 14.04 is > EOLd). It's going to be systemd or Android init, isn't it? AIUI Google > wants to have Android and ChromeOS con

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-22 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello Rich, and everybody else, Happy New Year! On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 01:16:53PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Tom H wrote: > > Samsung's starting to release Tizen-driven phones, TVs, white goods, > > etc. Tizen uses systemd and, given the size of Samsung, the n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Just as a data point, the last project I worked on was an automotive > system, whose controller was a 32-bit Power PC with 768k/64k code/data > flash, and 64k RAM. It did not run systemd! Rather than Linux, it ran > Autosar (a special, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Question: The feasibility of a complete portage binhost

2015-01-22 Thread thegeezer
On 22/01/15 15:46, Jc García wrote: > 2015-01-22 6:11 GMT-06:00 Andreas K. Huettel : >> Am Donnerstag 22 Januar 2015, 16:50:45 schrieb Sam Bishop: >>> On 22 January 2015 at 01:54, Andreas K. Huettel >> wrote: Am Mittwoch 21 Januar 2015, 20:36:55 schrieb Sam Bishop: > So I've been thinking

[gentoo-user] Re: Openrc now on Arch LInux

2015-01-22 Thread James
Jc García gmail.com> writes: > I doubt you will get the responses you want from this list. But, I did; Your response was excellent. I asked here because OpenRC users with Gentoo, often have a deep understanding of OpenRC, as we have been through several migrations over the years. I certainly a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 04:28:26PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote > > I wonder how small linux can actually get in such a world, assuming > you still needed the multitasking, drivers, etc (which would be the > main benefits of running an OS vs just embedding a single program > written in C that directl

Re: [gentoo-user] Openrc now on Arch LInux

2015-01-22 Thread Reverend Homer
AFAIR OpenRC exists in Arch repo for a long time. I mean, even after changing to systemd by default you could install and use OpenRC as init. 22.01.2015 1:32, James пишет: It seems Openrc is spreading? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenRC Anyone tested openrc on Arch linux? I have rea