Re: [gentoo-user] HBM gpus

2015-07-08 Thread R0b0t1
1) AMD cards usually have okay FOSS driver support, but all that is available might be the mfr-supported ones for some time. 2) It will never overheat in the stock configuration (which you would have to do a great deal to change) unless you are retarded. Note stock configuration usually assumes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Florian Gamböck
Am 08.07.2015 um 09:00 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 08/07/2015 07:00, Anton Shumskyi wrote: Same for me, but it appears only after I'm canceling some job on terminal with CTRL+C, maybe in 10% of total cases. I thought that was some side-effect of switching env back, but because job is terminated

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
Florian Gamböck m...@floga.de wrote: Hi Stephan, Am 08.07.2015 um 11:28 schrieb Stephan Müller: As you can replicate it reliable, did you test it in Bourne shell? Maybe its not related to bash at all? $ echo $SHELL /bin/bash Sorry for asking, but does Gentoo include the Bourne Shell?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
Florian Gamböck m...@floga.de wrote: I downloaded and compiled your archive. $ echo $0 ./sh/OBJ/x86_64-linux-cc/sh $ $0 --version sh (Schily Bourne Shell) version 2015/06/27 a+ (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1984-1989 ATT Copyright (C) 1989-2009 Sun Microsystems Copyright (C)

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

2015-07-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 06 July 2015 19:16:59 Mick wrote: Peter, I'm going from memory here, but I recovered from a kmail2 problem by clearing the akonadi cache and thereby forcing a reindexing. I recall opening the akonadi console from the tool tray and this offered me a GUI, which listed the various

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/07/15 20:01, walt wrote: This is the problem: occasionally bash gets in a state where it stops echoing the characters I type. The commands I type continue to work properly and I can see the output from them but I can't see the commands on the screen as I type them. I remember having

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Stephan Müller
Am 08.07.2015 um 11:06 schrieb Florian Gamböck: I can replicate it 100% when I ssh to another machine and immediately interrupt it with Ctrl-C. I hadn't considered this a bug, but after reading this thread I can confirm that it also happens randomly with other commands. Not sure if there is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Florian Gamböck
Hi Stephan, Am 08.07.2015 um 11:28 schrieb Stephan Müller: As you can replicate it reliable, did you test it in Bourne shell? Maybe its not related to bash at all? $ echo $SHELL /bin/bash $ bash --version | head -n1 GNU bash, Version 4.3.33(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) If I use /bin/sh

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Florian Gamböck
Hi Jörg, Am 08.07.2015 um 12:13 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Sorry for asking, but does Gentoo include the Bourne Shell? $ readlink /bin/sh bash I guess this means no ... If you like to do, the latest portable Bourne Shell is in:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Florian Gamböck
Am 08.07.2015 um 15:10 schrieb Todd Goodman: I haven't looked for that specifically in the ssh source code though. And it sounds like it's happening to people even without interrupting programs so it's unlikely the cause of all the problems. I didn't say that SSH is the cause to that, I just

[gentoo-user] Re: HBM gpus

2015-07-08 Thread James
R0b0t1 r030t1 at gmail.com writes: 1) AMD cards usually have okay FOSS driver support, but all that is available might be the mfr-supported ones for some time. 2) It will never overheat in the stock configuration (which you would have to do a great deal to change) unless you are retarded.

[gentoo-user] Re: HBM gpus

2015-07-08 Thread James
R0b0t1 r030t1 at gmail.com writes: 1) AMD cards usually have okay FOSS driver support, but all that is available might be the mfr-supported ones for some time. 2) It will never overheat in the stock configuration (which you would have to do a great deal to change) unless you are retarded.

Re: [gentoo-user] Why nepomuk suddenly?

2015-07-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/07/2015 14:53, Peter Humphrey wrote: It's my turn to seek help understanding portage. Yesterday my daily update required a reinstallation of kdelibs with the nepomuk flag switched on, and that pulled in nepomuk-core and nepomuk-widgets. But according to equery, those three packages

[gentoo-user] Why nepomuk suddenly?

2015-07-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
It's my turn to seek help understanding portage. Yesterday my daily update required a reinstallation of kdelibs with the nepomuk flag switched on, and that pulled in nepomuk-core and nepomuk-widgets. But according to equery, those three packages have only a conditional dependence on nepomuk:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Todd Goodman
* Florian Gamböck m...@floga.de [150708 03:15]: Am 08.07.2015 um 02:48 schrieb walt: Next time this happens I'll include the output of stty -a. [..SNIP..] After a small `diff`, the following changes have been made: lnext from ^V to undef; icrnl, icanon, and echo from on to off (they all

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/07/15 20:01, walt wrote: This is the problem: occasionally bash gets in a state where it stops echoing the characters I type. The commands I type continue to work properly and I can see the output from them but I can't see the commands on

Re: [gentoo-user] Why nepomuk suddenly?

2015-07-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 08 July 2015 15:13:36 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 08/07/2015 14:53, Peter Humphrey wrote: It's my turn to seek help understanding portage. Yesterday my daily update required a reinstallation of kdelibs with the nepomuk flag switched on, and that pulled in nepomuk-core and

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

2015-07-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 08 July 2015 22:03:16 Mick wrote: I would thing that this is a relatively straight forward transaction to troubleshoot, but devs may not be using POP3 on Kmail2, or if the glacial progress of KDEPIM is anything to go by, then I seriously suspect they are NOT really using ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/07/2015 07:00, Anton Shumskyi wrote: Same for me, but it appears only after I'm canceling some job on terminal with CTRL+C, maybe in 10% of total cases. I thought that was some side-effect of switching env back, but because job is terminated in a bad way haven't considered that as a bug.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-08 Thread Florian Gamböck
Am 08.07.2015 um 02:48 schrieb walt: Next time this happens I'll include the output of stty -a. Since I just hit this bug I will do it for you if you don't mind. ;-) I somehow managed to reproduce this issue by typing `ssh myothermachine`, hitting Enter, and immediately hitting Ctrl-C.

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

2015-07-08 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 08 Jul 2015 08:56:46 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 06 July 2015 19:16:59 Mick wrote: Peter, I'm going from memory here, but I recovered from a kmail2 problem by clearing the akonadi cache and thereby forcing a reindexing. I recall opening the akonadi console from the tool

[gentoo-user] grub doesn't autoselect a kernel

2015-07-08 Thread Grant
I have grub running on many Gentoo machines but on one of them it sits on the kernel selection screen and doesn't autoboot even though the menu says: The highlighted entry will be booted automatically in 2 seconds. Nothing happens for any length of time but pressing Enter boots the kernel as

Re: [gentoo-user] Help with obscure syntax in gsignal.h?

2015-07-08 Thread Alex Thorne
In this context I believe it's a bit shift operator. So 1 0 is 1 and 1 1 is 2. As for the operator in C++... The operator appears in C++ as the bitshift operator too. However, C++ supports operator overloading. This means that for custom data types (I.e. classes), one can define how certain

[gentoo-user] Help with obscure syntax in gsignal.h?

2015-07-08 Thread walt
I'm trying to debug a gtk+ app so I'm trying to learn some basic gtk+ and failing :( Can anyone splain to me what these lines mean: typedef enum { G_CONNECT_AFTER = 1 0, G_CONNECT_SWAPPED = 1 1 } GConnectFlags; In particular I don't understand what the operator is doing. When

Re: [gentoo-user] Why nepomuk suddenly?

2015-07-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 08 July 2015 15:13:36 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 08/07/2015 14:53, Peter Humphrey wrote: It's my turn to seek help understanding portage. Yesterday my daily update required a reinstallation of kdelibs with the nepomuk flag switched on, and that pulled in nepomuk-core and

Re: [gentoo-user] Why nepomuk suddenly?

2015-07-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/07/2015 01:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 08 July 2015 15:13:36 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 08/07/2015 14:53, Peter Humphrey wrote: It's my turn to seek help understanding portage. Yesterday my daily update required a reinstallation of kdelibs with the nepomuk flag switched on, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Why nepomuk suddenly?

2015-07-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 09 July 2015 01:10:29 Alan McKinnon wrote: Bitter hard experience with the same mistake has taught me to always do this when faced with such issues: egrep -r nepomuk|semantic|akonadi /etc/portage/ Indeed. It's just a matter of remembering to do that at the right time. [sigh] --

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

2015-07-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/07/2015 23:57, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 08 July 2015 22:03:16 Mick wrote: I would thing that this is a relatively straight forward transaction to troubleshoot, but devs may not be using POP3 on Kmail2, or if the glacial progress of KDEPIM is anything to go by, then I

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

2015-07-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 09 July 2015 01:04:13 Alan McKinnon wrote: kmail-1 was awesome. kmail-2 is a complete joke. The best recommendation I can give you is to salvage what you can from your mailboxes and switch to something that works. Thunderbird, claws, mutt all work fine and one of those surely

Re: [gentoo-user] Help with obscure syntax in gsignal.h?

2015-07-08 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 07/08/2015 08:26 PM, walt wrote: I'm trying to debug a gtk+ app so I'm trying to learn some basic gtk+ and failing :( Can anyone splain to me what these lines mean: typedef enum { G_CONNECT_AFTER = 1 0, G_CONNECT_SWAPPED = 1 1 } GConnectFlags; In particular I don't