On 2018-04-02 21:14, Grant Taylor wrote:
> Though I do think that reading the Linux from Scratch book and doing
> the install along with the book will likely teach more about Linux (as
> it existed at the time)
Does that mean LFS is dead? That would be a pity.
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On 04/02/2018 08:47 PM, Adam Carter wrote:
If you haven't installed and maintained a gentoo system before, its a
great way of building a solid foundation of knowledge.
Agreed.
Though I do think that reading the Linux from Scratch book and doing the
install along with the book will likely teac
>
> I want to learn from scratch securing Linux and ethical hacking. Should I
>> do as the most people so install Kali Linux on virtual machine or install
>> Gentoo Hardened with Pentoo overlay on my PC? I heard a lot of negative
>> opinions about Kali Linux.
>>
>
If you haven't installed and maint
Do people actually dual boot with pentesting distros? I was always
> under the impression you were supposed to load it from removable
> storage
Blackhats would load from removable storage, but I imagine whitehats would
prefer a stable setup with easy retention of info.
I updated my PC today, and there was a lot of KDE-related packages being
updated.
As part of my usual update procedure I depclean'ed and ran
revdep-rebuild.sh - and it wants to rebuild every single package on my
system? Surely that has to be some kind of mistake?
Anyone have any insight?
Dan
re
Philip Webb wrote:
> 180402 Dale wrote:
>> After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, not one.
>> Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do.
>> I only put one after a comma tho.
> That is correct professional secretarial style, which I always follow too.
>
>> Cou
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:02 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> /* loading hacking tools /*
>
> I met someone who said he games on kaliwhy? all the elite hackers
> use it - it is a very powerful linux that is perfect for dual-booting
> with windows 10 due to its high level of security.
>
Do people a
180402 Dale wrote:
> After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, not one.
> Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do.
> I only put one after a comma tho.
That is correct professional secretarial style, which I always follow too.
> Could that be triggering somet
On Mon 2 Apr 2018 at 14:36:00 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> You have "dev/tty". It should be "/dev/tty".
Thank you for catching that typo, I lost the slash somewhere between
the first and second syntax. In my case it was harmless, because I
chrooted into a filesystem root, such that dev/tty ==
Martin Vaeth wrote:
> Daniel Frey wrote:
>> On 04/02/18 08:21, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
>>> BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters
>> I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message
> After every "." there is a non-breakable space inserted.
> I guess this is an attempt of some editor to n
/* loading hacking tools /*
I met someone who said he games on kaliwhy? all the elite hackers
use it - it is a very powerful linux that is perfect for dual-booting
with windows 10 due to its high level of security.
On 2018-04-02 19:18, Bas Zoutendijk wrote:
> That is exactly what I meant to do, and I admit it is rather kludgey.
> Because of the single quotes, which are around everything but $HOST,
> the double quotes are literally echoed. The child shell will
> therefore see the PS1 definition surrounded by
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:54 PM, wrote:
> On 03/30/2018 11:10 AM, Bas Zoutendijk wrote:
>> On Fri 30 Mar 2018 at 10:33:45 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm using a scrip to log-in/boot strap the system over NFS
>>>
>>> -
>>> #!/bin/sh
>>>
>>> HOST=${0##*/}
>>> HOST=${HOST#*-}
>
180402 Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> On 2018-04-02 08:26, Daniel Frey wrote:
>> I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message, you should also
>> probably check your local configuration.
> They render fine for me in mutt/neomutt, too.
Same here.
> I can only see the strange spaces in my editor (emacs 2
On Mon 2 Apr 2018 at 09:25:57 -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> Ah, this is a comedy of errors. You've missed my intended point, which
> was wrong; but now I see the real problem.
>
> I missed the outermost single quotes in your echo command, so I thought
> the parent shell would strip the double qu
On 04/02/2018 03:29 AM, Bas Zoutendijk wrote:
> On Mon 2 Apr 2018 at 10:25:45 +0200, David Haller wrote:
>> You owe me a dollar!
>>
>> export PS1="$(chroot '$HOST') $PS1";
>> ^
>
> The text within the parentheses was meant as literal text, the chroot
> command is executed r
On 2018-04-02 17:55, Bas Zoutendijk wrote:
> What my syntax is doing is to let the $PS1 inside the PS1 definition
> be evaluated by the chroot shell. Suppose you run this command with
> HOST=eden and ROOT=/mnt/eden:
>
> echo 'export PS1="(chroot '$HOST') $PS1"; exec $ROOT /bin/bash -i
>
>
Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 04/02/18 08:21, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
>>
>> BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters
>
> I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message
After every "." there is a non-breakable space inserted.
I guess this is an attempt of some editor to non-french-space
ASCII t
On 03/31/2018 09:37 AM, Hubert Hauser wrote:
Hello!
Hi,
I want to learn from scratch securing Linux and ethical hacking. Should
I do as the most people so install Kali Linux on virtual machine or
install Gentoo Hardened with Pentoo overlay on my PC? I heard a lot of
negative opinions about
On Mon 2 Apr 2018 at 08:14:40 -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> This pipe is something of a Rube Goldberg device. Why not pass the
> variable directly:
>
> chroot $ROOT /usr/bin/env PS1="(chrooted to $HOST) $PS1" bash
That is of course a lot more elegant, I must have been half-asleep
when I w
On 2018-04-02 08:26, Daniel Frey wrote:
> I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message, you should also
> probably check your local configuration.
They render fine for me in mutt/neomutt, too. I can only see the
strange spaces in my editor (emacs 24) when I start replying to him and
quote his
On 04/02/18 08:21, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> On 2018-04-02 03:59, Dale wrote:
>
>> That last bit should read can NOT win. Brain didn't quite make it all
>> the way to keyboard. lol
>
> I read it as beautifully subtle sarcasm, so it worked fine as it was.
>
> BTW, your mails are full of strange spac
On 2018-04-02 03:59, Dale wrote:
> That last bit should read can NOT win. Brain didn't quite make it all
> the way to keyboard. lol
I read it as beautifully subtle sarcasm, so it worked fine as it was.
BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters - I didn't
investigate if they're some Un
On 2018-04-02 11:29, Bas Zoutendijk wrote:
> echo 'export PS1="You have chrooted into '$HOST' from $PS1"; exec \
>
On 2018-04-02 01:28, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> I have one from almost 10 years ago, whats the difference :[? how can
> you tell?
You mean Unicomp? At that time, although they were not quite the old
IBM, they were close, probably still using the original design to which
they had bought rights. Bu
Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> On 02/04/18 13:41, Martin Vaeth wrote:
>> Bill Kenworthy wrote:
>>> I use the palemoon overlay.
>> There is also the octopus overlay.
>> Anyway, both can only react to upstream.
>>
>>> builds fine with gcc-6.4
>> Yes, but it has random crashes which do not occur with gcc-5
Walter Dnes wrote:
> Mind you, the Pale Moon team may not
> have the staffing level required to write a new compiler, maintain a
> politically correct "community", integrate real-time-chat into the
> browser, integrate "Pocket" into the browser, rewrite the GUI every so
> often, yada, yada, yada.
On 02/04/18 13:41, Martin Vaeth wrote:
> Bill Kenworthy wrote:
>> I use the palemoon overlay.
> There is also the octopus overlay.
> Anyway, both can only react to upstream.
>
>> builds fine with gcc-6.4
> Yes, but it has random crashes which do not occur with gcc-5,
> and as somebody familiar wit
On Mon 2 Apr 2018 at 10:25:45 +0200, David Haller wrote:
> You owe me a dollar!
>
> export PS1="$(chroot '$HOST') $PS1";
> ^
The text within the parentheses was meant as literal text, the chroot
command is executed rightward of the pipe. I could just as well write
ec
Dale wrote:
> tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dale,
>>
>>
>> to wetten your appetite...;)
>> Here is an exerpt of the wikepedia page for waterfox:
>>
>> Waterfox differs from Firefox in a number of ways by:
>> Disabling Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
>> Disabling Web Runtime
>> Removi
tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> On 03/30 10:36, Dale wrote:
>> tu...@posteo.de wrote:
>>> On 03/30 09:45, Dale wrote:
tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I switched to waterfox for privacy reasons and it supports the older
> plugin system.
> No need to stay to older version
On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 05:41:03AM +, Martin Vaeth wrote
I don't speak officially for Pale Moon. See
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7818 for the official
word about the manpower situation. Mind you, the Pale Moon team may not
have the staffing level required to write a new
tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote:
>> Bill Kenworthy wrote:
>>> I use the palemoon overlay.
>> There is also the octopus overlay.
>> Anyway, both can only react to upstream.
>>
>>> builds fine with gcc-6.4
>> Yes, but it has random crashes which do not occur with gcc-5,
>
On 04/02 08:23, Martin Vaeth wrote:
> tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> > On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote:
> >> It seems currently that mozilla, google, and apple are the only
> >> oranganizations with enough resources to maintain full browsers,
> >> and any forks of their browsers which diverge more th
tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote:
>> It seems currently that mozilla, google, and apple are the only
>> oranganizations with enough resources to maintain full browsers,
>> and any forks of their browsers which diverge more than a patchset
>> of essentially fixed size are
Hello,
On Sun, 01 Apr 2018, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>On 03/30/2018 11:10 AM, Bas Zoutendijk wrote:
[..]
>> echo 'export PS1="(chroot '$HOST') $PS1"; exec > $ROOT /bin/bash -i
>The above syntax produced an error:
>
>chroot-eden: line 30: syntax error near unexpected token `('
>chroot-ede
On Sun 1 Apr 2018 at 20:54:13 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> The above syntax produced an error:
>
> chroot-eden: line 30: syntax error near unexpected token `('
> chroot-eden: line 30: `echo 'export PS1="(chroot '$HOST') $PS1"; exec
>
> I've tried it without brackets "()" no effect.
On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote:
> Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> > I use the palemoon overlay.
>
> There is also the octopus overlay.
> Anyway, both can only react to upstream.
>
> > builds fine with gcc-6.4
>
> Yes, but it has random crashes which do not occur with gcc-5,
> and as somebody famili
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