[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-05, Wols Lists wrote: > On 05/06/2024 13:12, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> Which I think is fine, if people want that, but not everyone does, so >> delaying the update altogether might be preferable to those people. > > Ie people like me who don't give a monkeys about python, and consider it

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-05, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 20:05, Grant Edwards wrote: >> What I found misleading (and tripped over) was the implication that >> the three step migration process outlined in the news item had a >> reasonable likelyhood of working for a larg

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-05, byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > 2) Was anything really 'broken'? Most certainly no, going by the above > definition and the fact that the news item provided for a very clear > pathway to maintain compatibility that was essentially a two-line solution. I think that build

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-05, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 11:04 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >>> If a package claimed to support python 3.12 and nonetheless failed to >>> build with it, that's a bug in the package -- can you provide more details?

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 4:58 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> >>> Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation >>> failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it c

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation > failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't > resolve the dependencies. I had plenty of both. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-04, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid > out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some packages to > be built twice or even three times, but it JUST WORKED (tm), at least > here. It only required

[gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-06-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-01, Wol wrote: > I've got news for you, there are quite a few weirdos on the list, Hey! I resemble that remark. [Hmm. That's not as funny in print.]

[gentoo-user] Re: Getting started with a web server

2024-06-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-01, George Kettleborough wrote: > If you only want to build a static site (ie. just HTML, CSS, JS etc; no > server-side scripting) then you don't need to install and configure > something like Apache to test it out. You could just open the files you're > working on straight from the

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-28, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >> >>>> Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names >>>> for the machine I'm on at the moment: >>>> >>>>

[gentoo-user] Re: Off Topic - UPnP servers

2024-05-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-24, Mark Knecht wrote: > The unit showed up today and was a breeze to set up and get running > at a basic level. The device requires an app on my phone. That sets of an alarm for me. > The app is available for Android and Apple but not available for the > Amazon Fire tablet. Good

[gentoo-user] Re: Off Topic - UPnP servers

2024-05-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-24, Mark Knecht wrote: > I'm a Plex user for video and have also ripped my CD > collection. Plex plays audio fine to TVs that have a Plex app but > apparently sometimes doesn't work well (as of yet untested by me) to > network streaming players. I never got the Plex app for Roku to

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >> Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names >> for the machine I'm on at the moment: >> >> --/etc/udev/rules.d/70-my-persistent-net.rules--- >> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add",

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >> If you want consisent network device names (even when you change >> hardware), you need to either >> >> 1. create udev rules that assign device names based on MAC addresses. >> >> 2. use a network configuration subsystem that assigns device names >> and

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > So they both show up.  When I try to start the network, it says: > > ERROR: Interface enp3s0 does not exist. Are you sure the network interface name hasn't changed? What does "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr" show? After booting up, what does "dmesg | grep enp" show? >

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-20, Dale wrote: A 3.0 card is supposed to work fine in a 2.0 slot. > You, or anyone, have any idea why that card would kill my network?  > I suspect the card itself is fine.  It did see the drive.  I just > need the internet to work since it may be used in a NAS rig. Is it causing

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Wols Lists wrote: > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur.  Anyway, I never let >> it near my systems. > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > Grub isn't that bad - it's just that insists on trying to do

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:37:22 BST Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > >> > The Clipboard may be stored in RAM or cache of any applications >> > which use this method. >> >> AFAICT, the clipboar

[gentoo-user] Re: Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > But in the doc on wiki.gentoo.org, I can't find any mention of inbuilt > graphics; all references are to graphics _cards_. Does Gentoo support > my intended processor's graphics, Technically, no. Gentoo doesn't. However, the Linux kernel, Xorg, and Mesa

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > As far as I know the Primary selection is not stored anywhere - > other than within the application's memory space where the range of > characters have been selected. The xserver will call for this when > you middle click to paste it on another application's

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Dale wrote: >> Or just select some empty space in an application, to overwrite your >> previous >> selection. > > Well, since it works, something is acting as a clipboard. It's part of the X server. Same for the two selections. > It doesn't seem to be xclip in my case. 

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Dale wrote: > I thought that too.  I highlighted some text in a Konsole and then > looked in the KDE clipboard, what I highlighted was not there.  > > It wasn't there after I pasted it either.  It goes to a clipboard > somewhere but it appears it only remembers one entry then

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be >> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >> 8302, but I've always used the same generic "Linux filesystem&quo

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > OK.  One last update in case someone googles and runs up on this > thread.  I'm using gdisk to display this, because I think it will do > better in email.  If I use cgdisk, it is wider and will wrap more.  > This is what the partition table looks like for GPT, old

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. > That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using > a GPT disk label, Grub requires t

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-27, Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like >> to use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my >> drives, regardless of size. > > GPT is the partition table

[gentoo-user] Re: NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics. >> Even if the CPU costs a tiny bit more, it will give you a free empty >> 16x PCIe slot at whatever speed the CPU supports (v5 in this case - >> which is as good as you can get right

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote: > I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers.  I to run into problems > on occasion with drivers and kernels.  When you switched from > Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you > install or kernel drivers? All in-tree kernel drivers for integrated

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions, >> then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources. > > I was not aware of this package. Excatly what

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" >> kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" >> kernel versions from kernel.org are

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Michael wrote: >> > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a >> > risk that my aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with >> > newer and newer kernels, should I put something like >> > >> >>=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.7.0 >> > >> > into

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Arve, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > >> ... >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily available. > > I'm sure I don't understand this: According to "https://www.kernel.org/; > kernel 6.6.27 is "longterm",

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dale wrote: > I've never understood what is supported long term either.  I use > gentoo-sources.  I've never figured out just how to pick a kernel that > is supposed to be stable for the larger version.  In other words, only > security and bug fixes, no new hardware.  Right now,

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok > wrote: >> > My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS >> > upstream releases. >> >> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just >> looking at the

[gentoo-user] Re: How to synchronise between 2 locations

2024-03-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-27, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 11:59 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: >> I am looking for a way to synchronise a filesystem between 2 >> servers. Changes can occur on both sides which means I need to >> have it synchronise in both directions. > > How synchronized? For

[gentoo-user] Re: New profiles 23.0

2024-03-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-26, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:21:23PM +, Michael wrote >> On Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:21:32 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: >> > I assume my system is already "merged-usr". Current profile... >> > >> > [12] default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib (exp) * >> >

[gentoo-user] Re: New profiles 23.0

2024-03-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-26, Walter Dnes wrote: > I'm AMD64 stable OpenRC. I got tired of dicking around resizing > partitions years ago, so I have all data and binaries in one honking > big partition. Also separate partitions for UEFI and swap. I assume > my system is already "merged-usr". Current

[gentoo-user] Re: Stage-3 and profile 23.x

2024-03-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-25, Michael wrote: > On Monday, 25 March 2024 21:48:24 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Monday, 25 March 2024 16:52:19 GMT Michael wrote: >> >>> The default OpenRC installation now assumes a merged-usr fs structure - >>> therefore make sure you select the appropriate profile in a new

[gentoo-user] Re: Terminal emulator to replace Konsole

2024-03-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-23, Mickaël Bucas wrote: > I think it's not a terminal emulator feature, but rather a shell > feature. > > Some terminal programs are designed to interact with the mouse, but > bash command line, based on readline, doesn't react to mouse clicks. Agreed. > I've tried Midnight

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-sources 5.15.151 breaks amdgpu support?

2024-03-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-11, Grant Edwards wrote: > I upgraded gentoo-sources from 5.15.147 to 5.15.151 this morning and > amdgpu support is now borked on my system with an AMD Ryzen 5 3400G > with Radeon Vega Graphics. > > Everything worked fine with 5.15.147, but when 5.15.151 (built with >

[gentoo-user] gentoo-sources 5.15.151 breaks amdgpu support?

2024-03-11 Thread Grant Edwards
I upgraded gentoo-sources from 5.15.147 to 5.15.151 this morning and amdgpu support is now borked on my system with an AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics. Everything worked fine with 5.15.147, but when 5.15.151 (built with same .config via "make oldconfig") boots there's always a kernel

[gentoo-user] Re: is a global use flag necessary for python?

2024-03-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-09, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 07:55:13PM +0100, n952162 wrote >> I just synced my system after a long delay, > > That's your problem right there. Yep, to quote Olivia Rodrigo... Bad idea, right? >> Is there a way to do it globally? > > First of all python

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-03-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-10, Michael wrote: > Perhaps I'm picking up on semantics, but shouldn't this sentence: > > "... The gap between the DOS disklabel and the first partition" > > read: > > "The gap between the MBR and the first partition"? Yes, thanks -- MBR is more accurate, I've changed that sentence.

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-03-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-22, Grant Edwards wrote: > For many years, I've used a hard drive on which I have 8-10 Linux > distros installed -- each in a separate (single) partition. > > [...] > > Is there an easier way to do this? After some additional studying of UEFI and boot managers like

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with "GRUB upgrades" news item

2024-03-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-06, Walter Dnes wrote: > I've got a UEFI system. According to the news item... > >> Re-runing grub-install both with and without the --removable option >> should ensure a working GRUB installation. > > I tried that... > > [i3][root][~] grub-install I believe you have to run

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-26, Wol wrote: > On 26/02/2024 20:51, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like >> that and just buy a dozen USB flash drives. >> > And then, if USB isn't the default boot media, he might as well sort out

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: > I agree, using the custom.cfg file would not work if needing to boot > different kernels of the same OS and those kernels were being updated. The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like that and just buy a dozen USB flash drives. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: > On 2/26/24 04:57, gentoo-u...@krasauskas.dev wrote: >> You could also write a script that keeps all the distros up to date >> from within whichever one you're currently booted by mounting >> subvolumes to /mnt or wherever, chrooting in and running the update. > > To

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Mark Knecht wrote: > The only other idea I had was to install to a different > disk and then use something like Clonezilla to move it to the partition > you want it in on your system. > > While I suspect you were being sarcastic I do not think any solution > that involves a

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:59 AM Grant Edwards > wrote: >> >> The simple solution is to give up on multi-booting a dozen different >> distros on a single disk and buy a pocketful of USB 3 thumb drives. >> > > Given perfo

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Wols Lists wrote: > On 23/02/2024 00:28, Grant Edwards wrote: >> In my experience, 's bootloader does not boot other >> installations by calling other bootloaders. It does so by rummaging >> through all of the other partitions looking for kernel images, >

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Michael wrote: > The problem starts if/when kernel images are overwritten by > successive Linux OS distros. This is likely when derivatives of the > same main distros e.g. Ubuntu all create a directory called > /EFI/ubuntu/ in the ESP and drop their kernels & initrd images in >

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Wojciech Kuzyszyn wrote: > I guess most (all) of the distro's you are talking about use GRUB (or > at least they allow to do it). Yes, I belive that they are all now using Grub2. > If that's true, I'm pretty sure you can happily let them overwrite > the GRUB in MBR as many times

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-22, Wol wrote: > On 22/02/2024 21:45, Grant Edwards wrote: >> I've been reading up on UEFI, and it doesn't seem to be any >> better. People complain about distro's stomping on each other's files >> in the ESP partiton and multiple distro's using the same name

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-22, Wol wrote: > On 22/02/2024 19:17, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> However, the choice to install bootloaders in partitions instead of >> the MBR has been removed from most (all?) of the common installers. >> This forces me to jump through hoops when installi

[gentoo-user] How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-22 Thread Grant Edwards
For many years, I've used a hard drive on which I have 8-10 Linux distros installed -- each in a separate (single) partition. There is also a single swap partition (used by all of the different Linux installations). There is also a small partition devoted only to the "master" instance of Grub

[gentoo-user] Re: Re-run grub-install to update installed boot code!

2024-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-17, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> Today's routine update says: >> >> Re-run grub-install to update installed boot code! >> >> Is "sudo grub-install" really all I have to do? [...] >> >> Or do I have to run grub-install

[gentoo-user] Re-run grub-install to update installed boot code!

2024-02-16 Thread Grant Edwards
Today's routine update says: Re-run grub-install to update installed boot code! Is "sudo grub-install" really all I have to do? Grub knows where/how everthing was originally installed and will do the right thing without any options? Or do I have to run grub-install with all the same

[gentoo-user] 147 .pem files in /etc/ need updating

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
After a routine update this morning (last one was probably 3 days ago), I see that 147 files in /etc need updating. When I run etc-update, they're all ".pem" CA files (or links?). It looks like it was all of the .pem files under /etc/ssl/certs. I did a -5, and all seems well. It's a bit alarming

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-06, J. Roeleveld wrote: > If you want to use snapshots, the filesystem will need to support it. (either > LVM or ZFS). If you only want to create snapshots on the backupserver, I > actually don't see much benefit over using rsync. Upthread I've been told that ZFS snapshots 1.

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-06, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 4:38:11 PM CET Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-02-05, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:56:47 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40 PM Thelma wro

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-05, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:56:47 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40 PM Thelma wrote: >> > If zfs file system is superior to ext4 and it seems to it is. >> > Why hasn't it been adopted more widely in Linux? >> >> The main

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-05, Wols Lists wrote: > On 04/02/2024 15:48, Grant Edwards wrote: >> OK I see. That's a bit different than what I'm doing. I'm backing up >> a specific set of directory trees from a couple different >> filesystems. There are large portions of the "source&q

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-04, Wols Lists wrote: > On 04/02/2024 06:24, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I don't understand, are you saying that somehow your backup doesn't >> contain a copy of every file? >> > YES! Let's make it clear though, we're talking about EVERY VERSION of > ev

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-03, Wol wrote: > On 03/02/2024 16:02, Grant Edwards wrote: >> rsnapshot is an application that uses rsync to do >> hourly/daily/weekly/monthly (user-configurable) backups of selected >> directory trees. It's done using rsync to create snapshots. They are >

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-03, Michael wrote: >> If you'll forgive the analogy, we'll say the the functionality of >> rsync (as used by rsnapshot) is built-in to ZFS. > > Broadly and rather loosely yes, by virtue of the COW and snapshot fs > architecture and the btrfs/zfs send-receive commands. > >> Is there

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-02, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 4:39 PM Grant Edwards > wrote: > >> >> I googled for ZFS backup applications, but didn't find anything that >> seemed to be widespread and "supported" the way that rsnapshot is. > > I'm not exa

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-31, Rich Freeman wrote: > Honestly, at this point I would not run any storage I cared about on > anything but zfs. There are just so many benefits. > > [...] > > In any case, these COW filesystems, much like git, store data in a > way that makes it very efficient to diff two

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-31, Thelma wrote: > On 1/31/24 08:50, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-01-31, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> Honestly, at this point I would not run any storage I cared about on >>> anything but zfs. There are just so many benefits. >> >>

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-31, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 6:45 AM John Covici wrote: >> >> I know you said you wanted to stay with ext4, but going to zfs reduced >> my backup time on my entire system from several hours to just a few >> minutes because taking a snapshot is so quick and copying

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-31, gentoo-u...@krasauskas.dev wrote: > On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 20:38 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> It took me an embarassing number of tries to get the intervals and >> crontab entries to mesh so it worked the way I wanted. It's not >> really >> tha

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-30, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:08 PM Wol wrote: >> >> On 30/01/2024 19:19, Rich Freeman wrote: >> > I'd echo the other advice. It really depends on your goals. >> >> If you just want a simple backup, I'd use something like rsync onto lvm >> or btrfs or something.

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-30, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:15 PM Grant Edwards > wrote: >> >> Are there other backup solutions that people would like to suggest I >> look at to replace rsnapshot? I was happy enough with rsnapshot (when >> it was running), but

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-30, Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:15:09 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: >> I need to set up some sort of automated backup on a couple Gentoo >> machines (typical desktop software development and home use). One of >> them used rsnapshot in the past bu

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-30, Thelma wrote: > I backup, periodically: > - corontab (user, root) > - etc > - hylafax > > daily: > - data > > It all depend what you want you backup, how large is your data. > For backup standard "rsync" over the network does the job OK rsnapshot is a perl app that

[gentoo-user] Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
I need to set up some sort of automated backup on a couple Gentoo machines (typical desktop software development and home use). One of them used rsnapshot in the past but the crontab entries that drove that have vanished :/ (presumably during a reinstall or upgrade -- IIRC, it took a fair bit of

[gentoo-user] Re: The hopeless futility of printing.

2024-01-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-29, Michael wrote: > On Monday, 29 January 2024 18:19:19 GMT Alan Grimes wrote: > >> It's a LaserJet Pro M453-4. > > You shouldn't need hplip drivers and what not, IPP Everywhere ought to allow > driverless CUPS to allow you to print: > > https://www.pwg.org/printers/ Does anybody

[gentoo-user] Re: sending message from Linux to window user

2024-01-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-26, Thelma wrote: > Is there a way to send a pop-up message to Windows user from Linux? > > The below command works but from Windows to Windows: > msg fd /server:fd-server "Your message here" > > but I need it to work from Linux. > > I tried: > smbclient -M fd\%5d2f0of -I 10.0.0.137 >

[gentoo-user] Re: downloading from cell phone to Gentoo

2024-01-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-18, Philip Webb wrote: > 240117 Philip Webb wrote: >> I want to be able to download photos from my new cellphone to Gentoo. >> The phone is a Samsung A14 5G ; its pet name is Athene. >> I use KDE to manage my desktops on my desktop machine ANB6. > > Thanks for the many replies, which

[gentoo-user] Re: downloading from cell phone to Gentoo

2024-01-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-18, Philip Webb wrote: > I want to be able to download photos from my new cellphone to Gentoo. > The phone is a Samsung A14 5G ; its pet name is Athene. > I use KDE to manage my desktops on my desktop machine ANB6. MTP can be a bit tempermental if that's what's being used. It's been

[gentoo-user] Re: VboxClient: the virtualbox kernel service is not running. Exiting

2023-12-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-12-12, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > It was a virtualbox upgrade (not kernel), the notification is on > Gentoo host system running VM. Were you trying to run guest additions on the host? > I might be related to "app-emulation/virtualbox-guest-additions" > Unmerging this package

[gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

2023-12-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-12-04, Michael wrote: >> However, the "h264enc" package has a hard dependency on mplayer. > > Which I believe is not needed for mpv. You can set: The problem is not that h264enc is required by mplyaer, it's that the h264enc package requires mplayer: >From the h264enc ebuild

[gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

2023-12-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-12-04, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Do you really need both mpv and mplayer? > > > Given the new one fails to build, that is a good question.  Personally, > I just want to play videos.  lol  This is what equery shows as needing > mplayer.  > &g

[gentoo-user] Re: ffmpeg: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict

2023-12-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-12-04, Dale wrote: > I either started a thread on this a while back or it was mentioned > inside another thread.  This has been popping up for months now.  Either > I have something set wrong or there is a problem in a ebuild or > something.  I just don't know what.  This is what I get. 

[gentoo-user] Re: Abnormal processor temperature.

2023-11-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-11-21, Laurence Perkins wrote: > I have a system here running an Intel N97 processor, which is idling > at 70-80C on Gentoo with all cores 99% idle. This is 40 degrees > hotter than it runs on Ubuntu or Windows 10. > > Powertop confirms that the CPU is spending nearly all of its time in

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info

2023-10-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-10-19, Dale wrote: > That config kinda reminds me of the old grub.  A title line, location of > kernel and then options.  Sounds easy enough.  The new grub config is > almost impossible to config by hand.  They had to make a tool to do it.  > That says a lot there.  ;-)  Manually

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: > >> The protective MBR and the BIOS boot partition are two different, >> unrelated things. The BIOS boot partition is a real partition (usually >> 1-2MB in size) that's present in the GPT parition table. It's used by >> Grub as a place to store its files. > > Yes,

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-10-18, Rich Freeman wrote: > Oh well, I rarely reboot so it just hasn't been on the top of my > list of things to fix. I don't really care much on the Ubuntu servers I maintain because they are rarely rebooted, and their network interfaces are always up. A couple weeks ago I was

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote: >> Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility >> partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't >> remember the exact name. > > Man pages of partitioning tools refer to it as "Protective MBR", although > I've > seen it

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-10-17, Mark Knecht wrote: > I have 4 Ubuntu-based machines here and over the last 6 years I've > never seen a 1 minute delay to login, much less 5 minutes. I see it all the time. Two minutes is the most common delay that I run into, but I've seen longer. The two-minute delay I

[gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-10-17, Dale wrote: > I to find Gentoo to be much better documented. There were places where > the old BIOS and efi info got a little confusing but eventually I > figured it out. I been trying to think of a way to color code the docs > but I can't figure out a sensible way. You got BIOS

[gentoo-user] Re: Video card. Will this work for me?

2023-10-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-10-13, Dale wrote: > As most likely know, I'm in the process of building a new rig and > putting a couple older systems to use.  Most of my mobos support > PCIe-x16 2.0 for video cards.  I found a Nvidia NVS 510 that has four > mini HDMI outputs.  Research claims those are for multiple

[gentoo-user] Re: What to do about openssl

2023-10-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-10-04, John Covici wrote: > Hi. I just did a world update and found that my openssl-1.1.1v is > masked. What can I do, Use one of the stable versions. > I don't have any version that is not masked Huh? What architecture are you on? There are three versions of openssl that are stable

[gentoo-user] Re: How to move ext4 partition

2023-09-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-09-21, Jack wrote: > >> [...] Of course I've discovered for the Nth time in the past 10-15 >> years, that for the root= command line argument, the kernel doesn't >> grok LABEL or UUID values -- it only understands device names and >> PARTUUID. > > while my Gentoo grub.cfg has

[gentoo-user] Re: How to move ext4 partition

2023-09-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-09-21, Victor Ivanov wrote: > On Wed, 20 Sept 2023 at 23:58, Grant Edwards > wrote: > >>> Just make sure you update /etc/fstab and bootloader config file >>> with the new filesystem UUID or partition indices. >> >> I always forget one or the other

[gentoo-user] Re: How to move ext4 partition

2023-09-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-09-20, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 10:57:00PM +0100 schrieb Victor Ivanov: > >> On Wed, 20 Sept 2023 at 22:29, Grant Edwards >> wrote: >> > >> > That depends on how long it takes me to decide on tar vs. rsync and >> >

[gentoo-user] Re: How to move ext4 partition

2023-09-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-09-20, Victor Ivanov wrote: > On Wed, 20 Sept 2023 at 22:29, Grant Edwards > wrote: >> >> That depends on how long it takes me to decide on tar vs. rsync and >> what the appropriate options are. > > I've done this a number of times for various reasons o

[gentoo-user] Re: How to move ext4 partition

2023-09-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-09-20, Wol wrote: > Or, assuming the people who wrote gparted have two brain cells to rub > together, I'm pretty sure they use the same technique as memmove. > > "If the regions overlap, make sure you start from whichever end won't > overwrite the source, otherwise start at whichever

[gentoo-user] Re: How to move ext4 partition

2023-09-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-09-20, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 20:24:17 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> For example, I have a 500GB partition containing an ext4 filesystem >> starting at sector 2048 (1MiB). I want to move that filesystem so that >> it starts at sector 3

[gentoo-user] How to move ext4 partition

2023-09-20 Thread Grant Edwards
I've got a Gentoo install using a GPT partition table and Legacy boot using Grub2. There is a single /root parition and a single swap partition on the drive. I did not create a bios-boot partition at the start of the disk, so I had to force grub2 to install using block-lists. I'd like to fix

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