Daniel Campbell wrote:
> Do you know the design consequences of opt-in versus opt-out? I'll keep
> this short: When evolving a codebase, new behavior for core parts of the
> system should not be pushed or forced on users. If you must, keep the
> old behavior around as a default and allow users to t
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 09:42:33AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:36:02 +0100, Steven J. Long wrote:
>
> > > It's evolution. Linux has for years been moving in this direction,
> > > now it has reached the point where the Gentoo devs can no longe
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 09:50:05AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 11/10/2013 09:54, Steven J. Long wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:04:38AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> On 29/09/2013 23:41, Dale wrote:
> >>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >>>> >
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 09:17:02PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:04:41 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>
> > > I suppose that what I am about to say isn't really relevant, but it is
> > > unfortunate over the past year that people blamed udev specifically
> > > for this. It is
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 06:35:58PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >> wrong analogy and it goes down from here. Really.
> > Ohh, but they are inspired on YOUR analogy, so guess how wrong yours was.
>
> your trolling is weak. And since I never saw anything worth reading
> posted by you, you ar
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:37:53PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:05:39 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
>
> > > If *something1* at boot time requires access to *something2* at boot
> > > time that isn't available then I would say that *something1* is broken
> > > by design not the
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:04:38AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 29/09/2013 23:41, Dale wrote:
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> On 29/09/2013 18:33, Dale wrote:
> that gnome is very hostile when it comes to KDE or choice is not news.
> > And their dependency on systemd is just the usual ma
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> Steven J. Long wrote:
>
> > Again you're wilfully misinterpreting what I've said, and answering a
> > completely different
> > point. You didn't know the basics of how to go about approaching Gentoo.
> While I (and others BTW)
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> Steven J. Long wrote:
> > > Again, I proposed myself to the dev list two times in the past. Nobody
> > > cared and I had no answers.
> >
> > Because that has never been the process: anyone can post to the
> > mailing-list, it
>
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> FUD again. The backwards compability is still all there and udev can be
> built standalone and ran standalone.
Sorry I'm going to call "bullshit" on this one.
You know damn well "upstream" moved udev into systemd, promising everyone it
would
be possible to continue to b
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed,
Unfortunately the "design" is crap.
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Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> hasufell wrote:
> > You can use the command line too.
> >
> > www-client/pybugz
>
> I know this tool. I did try it. At that time it was buggy and did not
> work for me. Though, this would still be a busy process as this is just
> another interface og the bugzilla thing.
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Steven J. Long wrote:
> > "POSIX 4: Programming for the Real World" (Gallmeister, 1995)
> > "UNIX Network Programming vol 2: Interprocess Communications" (Stevens,
> > 1999)
> >
> > More here:
> > https://foss
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Peace and hugz OK?
Definitely :-)
"POSIX 4: Programming for the Real World" (Gallmeister, 1995)
"UNIX Network Programming vol 2: Interprocess Communications" (Stevens, 1999)
iirc the first is on safari-online; you can download code from the second here:
http://www.kohala.c
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> you forgot that shared library nonsense. Every app should just bundle
> static copies of everything it needs and leave it up to the dev to deal
> with bugs and security issues
And you forgot: -lc prob'y because it's not required. -lrt comes into play too.
I'd recommend a boo
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Steven J. Long wrote:
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > You might as well ask why do you need or want any other form of IPC
> > > you already have, as that is what dbus is. It's a very small, light
> > > daemon, can run system-wid
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> dbus is NOT a desktop daemon. This is very important, and that single
> misunderstanding is probably behind all the fud you read about it.
>
> dbus implements a message bus - an amazingly useful thing to have.
>
> Why do you need or want a message bus?
>
> You might as wel
Mick wrote:
> I would be grateful if some kind soul guided my hand on configuring mutt to
> behave like ... errm ... kmail! O_o
Funnily enough I did just that, for the same reasons (You want what?! a
full-blown
MySQL production server just to notify me about email? YDIW.) and wrote it up
here:
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:57:40AM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 18.05.2013 00:57, schrieb John Campbell:
>
> > Take a look at imwheel. It's a little unmaintained but it still works.
> > I've used it on an old MX1000 and my current PreformanceMX.
> >
> > You can set mouse buttons on a
Andre Lucas Falco wrote:
> > > It's possible to use the package.env, described here:
> > > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/env.
> > >
> > > I use this for 2 packages (ghostscript-gpl and orbit), runs flawlessly.
> 2013/5/2 Neil Bothwick
> >
> > You could, but then you need to remove the s
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 04:50:43PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
> > And you are vastly overstating the desirability of having pulseaudio
> > enforced on users without very good cause
> How much barefaced lying can you do in one sentence
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 09:31:43PM +0400, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
> On 25.04.2013 19:48, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Walter Dnes
> > wrote:
> >> I think you've hit the nail on the head. Complex setups require
> >> complex software... deal with it. An analogy is
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 02:34:42PM -0600, Joseph wrote:
> On 04/18/13 22:10, Michael Hampicke wrote:
> >Am 18.04.2013 15:33, schrieb Joseph:
> >> What is going on with portage?
> >> All the older packages are being removed and and some of them are not
> >> even made stable.
> >>
> >> I've masked cu
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 04:30:33PM -0800, Grant wrote:
> And then attended like this:
>
> emerge -DuN world
> revdep-rebuild
> etc-update
> elogv
> emerge --depclean
> eclean distfiles
> eclean packages
>
> Am I missing any good stuff?
I've recently modified update[1] to use --changed-use by de
David W Noon wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:49:04 +0100, Kamil Domański wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to figure out a way to emerge GCC with multiple
>> target architectures.
>
> Try using the crossdev package.
Yeah crossdev _rocks_. #gentoo-embedded is a good place to get help,
as well as the
Pandu Poluan wrote:
> Great! BTW, if the ebuild goes into overlay, it could use a newer EAPI,
> couldn't it?
Sure.
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Some fool wrote:
> Following the debates over the summer, about plans to require an
> initramfs for udev, I put together a slightly different approach using
> the dependency tracking in openrc. It's outlined (in Unsupported Software)
> at: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6866484.html
Just wo
Mick wrote:
>> File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/SocketServer.py", line 694, in finish
>> self.wfile.flush()
>> File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/socket.py", line 303, in flush
>> self._sock.sendall(view[write_offset:write_offset+buffer_size])
>> error: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
>> -
Dale wrote:
> Of course, if I find something better, I can backup the /home
> directory and install something else then restore the /home and carry on
> with something new.
>
I strongly recommend keeping a separate partition for /home; it makes things
a lot easier if and when you switch. It also m
Michael Mol wrote:
> Isn't there a kernelland HTTP server? ISTR seeing the option. I don't
> know anything about it, though.
>
Yeah there was; as I recall it got removed a while back.
Google got me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUX_web_server
and khttpd at: http://www.fenrus.demon.nl/
..both of
Michael Mol wrote:
> I'd like to have the Handbook in a format convenient for reading in
> ebook readers.
>
> Now, I know I could take the existing HTML files and convert them, but
> I think it'd be nicer if I could get the handbook maintenance scripts
> to automate a conversion process, and then
>> This is on stable udev (164-r2.) I'm not running unstable, so be careful
>> if you are, and let us know if there are any changes needed. You can get
>> in touch on IRC, or via the forum post.
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Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
>
> I am running ~amd64 and I'll try this, when I h
Hi,
Following the debates over the summer, about plans to require an initramfs
for udev, I put together a slightly different approach using the dependency
tracking in openrc. It's outlined (in Unsupported Software) at:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6866484.html
and consists of a couple of
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