Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups....

2013-07-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
n. If you want to change the backup plan fr all machines, you make one change on one computer. It works well, save work and minimises disk space usage, especially with multiple similar clients. Preventing infiltration is simple as you don't need to open it to the Internet at all, the backup server can be completely stealthed and still do its job. -- Neil Bothwick Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported

2013-07-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
0. System Rescue CD is updated frequently so I would expect a release that supports this device to be out before the end of the week. -- Neil Bothwick Vital papers will demonstrate their vitality by moving to where you can't find them. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups....

2013-07-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
der to pull so I think you're saying it could drop > inbound connections, but then how could you talk to it? Do you mean a > local backup server? Yes, you talk to the server over the LAN, or a VPN. There need be no way of connecting to it from outside of your LAN. -- Neil Bothwick There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups....

2013-07-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
ltration > giving read(/write) access on every client to the infiltrator. I don't think it too unreasonable to assume that a machine with no ports exposed to the Internet will not be compromised from the Internet. Whereas a push approach requires that the server have open ports. -- Neil Bothwick Just when you got it all figured out: An UPGRADE! signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups....

2013-07-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 16:14:02 -0700, Grant wrote: > I'd rather lose my backups than lose my backups and give up root > read/write to every system I back up. :) If you want to leave your backup server open to exploitation attempts, maybe you should be looking at a different solution :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Locking down a user with a shell account and SSH access

2013-07-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
user in /etc/shadow is an exclamation point which I > think means the user can not log in with a password. Should I take > any additional steps to prevent that user from logging in and not > being subject to the authorized_keys restrictions? What about "PasswordAuthentication no"?

Re: [gentoo-user] Understanding why portage wants to downgrade nvidia-cuda-sdk

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
You need one of =dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk-4.2* >dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk-4.2 -- Neil Bothwick If Wile E. Coyote had enough money to buy all that ACME crap, why didn't he just buy dinner? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups....

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
aybe you should be looking at a different solution :) > > If "open to exploitation attempts" means accepting inbound connections > from the internet then I agree. I'm grateful for your help with this > Neil! You're welcome. A pull system does rely on the server being

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
ows > about and are something made up from whole cloth by the blkid program) MBRs don't have PARTUUIDs do they? Don't confuse them with filesystem UUIDs as used in fstab. -- Neil Bothwick Oops. My brain just hit a bad sector. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
and add the module to /etc/conf.d/modules to make sure it is loaded ASAP. Yes, it is a kludge, but it is the simplest solution from a practical POV. -- Neil Bothwick Processor: (n.) a device for converting sense to nonsense at the speed of electricity, or (rarely) the reverse. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
r > paritions that don't have filesystems. UUIDs are for filesystems, PARTUUIDs ae for partitions - blkid prints both, but only if both are present, which requires a GPT partition table. -- Neil Bothwick A man needs a mistress - just to break the monogamy signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
e kludge? :-O -- Neil Bothwick Eat shit - 50 million flies can't be wrong Use Microsoft . . . . . signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] xscavenger - game

2013-07-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
ts of the user but it not the same as logging in as that user. To do that use "su -l username" or "su username -". -- Neil Bothwick Cereal Killer Strikes Again! Cap'n Crunch found dead... signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] xscavenger - game

2013-07-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 06 Jul 2013 21:20:12 +0300, Thanasis wrote: > > su username - > > I think that sould be: > > su - username You're right. su is incredibly picky about the location of - on the command line, which is why I prefer to use -l. -- Neil Bothwick Someone who thi

Re: [gentoo-user] eix settings for searching all layman overlays

2013-07-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 19:52:31 +0300, Thanasis wrote: > I would like to use eix and (updating it via cron job) be able to search > locally *all* layman overlays. > What commands and settings should I use? LOCAL_LAYMAN=/path/to/layman/storage eix-remote -q update -- Neil Bothwick

Re: [gentoo-user] pop up windows with text message

2013-07-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
message: (terminal:24945): Gtk-WARNING **: > cannot open display: You probably need to export DISPLAY in your script. -- Neil Bothwick I get enough exercise just pushing my luck. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] pop up windows with text message

2013-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
triggered by the file being opened for read, that kills the at job -- Neil Bothwick God is real, unless specifically declared integer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus problems - am I the only one who has these?

2013-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success I get this on my desktop but not my laptop, yet I have been unable to find the difference that accounts for it. In the end I gave up and made /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper world-executable :( -- Neil Bothwick In a classified ad: "Tired of

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus problems - am I the only one who has these?

2013-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
ften solved by simple re-emerge: > > # emerge -1 glib dbus dbus-glib Often, maybe - always, definitely not. This machine has suffered from that issue for some time and none of the suggested solutions, including that one, or a few more desperate measures, have made any difference. -- Neil B

Re: [gentoo-user] Insync

2013-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
ot of that overlay? -- Neil Bothwick ... We are Dyslexics of Borg. Your ass will be laminated. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE)

2013-07-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
case as the decision on which network manager to use must be global). Are you sure that you have spelled the USE flag correctly, that one has wasted significant chunks of my life before now 9and will probably do so again in the future). > since networkmanager was not in USE before. This is irre

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE)

2013-07-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
hanged-use --ask @world" after changing make.conf? Changing the USE flag there doesn't change the flags that those packages were built with. They will need to be rebuilt without NM support before portage allows you to depclean it. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 00F: Unexplained error - Please tell us how this happened signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager

2013-07-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:04:12 +0200, András Csányi wrote: > Ok. How is possible to get the post-install message of an ebuild > without re-emerge the package neither opening the log file? The man > page of emerge cannot say anything about it. Read the ebuild. -- Neil Bothwick Those wh

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager

2013-07-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
; Read the ebuild. > > I don't think this is a friendly solution in 2013. It isn't. The friendly solution is to have portage log this to a file or email it to you, but you ruled out those methods, leaving only the unfriendly but effective option. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymoron

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager

2013-07-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:03:29 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save" > PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="warn error info log qa" I wouldn't include qa, that's just noise for users. -- Neil Bothwick Deja Moo: The feeling that you heard this bull somewhere

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager

2013-07-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
the log files, hence the "read the ebuild" suggestion. Although I have portage save the logs, I rarely look at them because I also have it mail them to me. That way they are easy to read and hard to ignore. -- Neil Bothwick Having children will turn you into your parents. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
since I managed to wear one of those out (mainly due to a kernel bug). They have lifetimes similar to spinny disks these days. -- Neil Bothwick If you got the words it does not mean you got the knowledge. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
y those operations to the old HDD, why bother? Thing like video files can go on a hard drive because they are read far more slowly than the drive's speed anyway. > Am I being too cautious with current technology SSDs? Yes. -- Neil Bothwick During a raid on a local chemist's shop,

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
ve, really helps you decide how much of the content of ~ you really need. -- Neil Bothwick Weird enough for government work. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:02:48 -0500, Dale wrote: > I > also keep the last two versions of sysrescue for my USB stick. How do you copy one to a stick when you need to rescue an unbootable system? I prefer to keep the ISO in /boot, no need for a USB stick then. -- Neil Bothwick By the ti

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
s case-sensitive :) -- Neil Bothwick "Mmmm, trouble with grammer have I, yes?" - Yoda signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:26:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Remember, he's an Englishman and they don't do slapstick humour, they do > clever and subtle humour. Have you never seen Monty Python or The Goodies? PS, let me know when you think this is getting off-topic... -- Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng segfaults

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
ice stops the segfault lines. YMMV, Try app-admin/checkrestart, I generally run this after updating any daemons or libraries. -- Neil Bothwick "RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!" signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:50:29 -0500, Dale wrote: > Neil, you know how payback is right? ROFL That's the one with Mel Gibson? -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 35: Legally drunk signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:00:21 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 10:43:39PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > How do you copy one to a stick when you need to rescue an unbootable > > system? I prefer to keep the ISO in /boot, no need for a USB stick > >

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
in case "your > root filesystem is damaged" or this still doesn't help, eh? Yes, and it's mounted ro to minimise the risk of such damage. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 15: Extinct Life signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
y on top of the case :) Same features, useful in more circumstances, > less maintenance overhead. This sin't a rescue partition, it's just a GRUB menu entry and a copy f the ISO in /boot, so far less maintenance even than making sure a USB stick stays put. Plus it is much faster to boo

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
> > An interesting idea you present, Neil. So far I've been maintaining a > small rescue system. My /boot is only 100MB so if I wanted to follow > your idea I'd have to move and resize everything else on this MBR > setup. I have twin spinning disks with two LVM sets in logical &g

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
ice/libreoffice disk-tmpdir.conf ]% cat /etc/portage/env/disk-tmpdir.conf PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/mnt/scratch" where /mnt/scratch is a directory I use for all sorts of non-permanent files. -- Neil Bothwick The truth shall make you free, but first it shall piss you off. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 04:50:42 -0500, Dale wrote: > > That's the one with Mel Gibson? > > > > > > It starts with a B. Ironic huh? Actually, his surname appears to mean "son of a GibiBit" ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Hm..what's this red button fo|

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
GE_TMPDIR to /tmp. -- Neil Bothwick Mosquito - designed to make houseflies look better. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
sure tmpfs > > can satisfy before you start. > > em, no. KDE does not have large space requirements. LO does. The rest > is happy with 2gb of tmpfs diskspace. And portage checks for sufficient space for greedy packages before it starts emerging anything, so if there is a problem you kno

Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

2013-07-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
hen I have sets for desktop, laptop etc, each of which inherits the base set. so it's pretty much a case of partition the disk, unpack the stage3, emerge @laptop (or whatever, compile the kernel, configure the bootloader and reboot. -- Neil Bothwick Like an atheist in a grave: all dres

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
probably the main reason I do it this way. I believe it's also possible to do this with PXE, meanng you don't even need multiple copies of the file... unless your PXE server needs rescuing. I always have it on a USB stick too, but that's for fixing other people's computers :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

2013-07-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
nstead of one daemon that handles IPC for everything. While we're at it, let's get rid of syslog and add file logging code to every program that needs it. cron and at seem a bit of a waste of space too. -- Neil Bothwick Micro-: (prefix) anything both very small and very expensive. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

2013-07-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
7;m not sure how this would be useful but I can certainly see how it would cause confusion and problems, but I hadn't heard if it before. -- Neil Bothwick Of course it's not your day, With 7 billion people on earth chances are slim it will ever be *your* day. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] QEMU setup questions

2013-07-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
rom installx86.iso -boot d > > Could not access KVM kernel module: Permission denied > > failed to initialize KVM: Permission denied Is the problem with reading the module file or loading it? If you modprobe the kvm module as root first, can you then run it as a user? You may want to add

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

2013-07-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
> However, kmail sucks and akonadi sucks moar, so define for yourself > > @suckykde > kdepim-meta > > And add to your world sets: > > @kde+@kdedev/@suckykde > I see, what about operator precedence, is that equivalent to (@kde+@kdedev)/@kdesuckykde or @kde+(@kdedev/@kdesuckykde) It's been a long time since I studied set operators at Uni :( -- Neil Bothwick I cna ytpe 300 wrods pre mniuet!!! signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

2013-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
av1 $(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion) emerge -1a /usr/share/bash-completion -- Neil Bothwick Member, National Association For Tagline Assimilators (NAFTA) signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] fail: kde-base/kdelibs-4.10.5-r1

2013-07-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
e of an error. There are some clever people on this list but, AFAIK, no magicians or mind readers. > I could'nt find an emake executable. Which package contains such a > beast ? emake is a portage function, not a standalone executable. -- Neil Bothwick QOTD: The only easy

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

2013-07-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
gt; > emerge -1a /usr/share/bash-completion > > Yes we learned this trick a month or two ago. Apparently, not all of us. -- Neil Bothwick Remember that the Titanic was built by experts, and the Ark by a newbie signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] fail: kde-base/kdelibs-4.10.5-r1

2013-07-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
ortage. I don't > quite figure yet how the file got created and not recorded as belonging > to portage. That's the old lib vs lib64 thing ]% qfile /usr/lib64/portage/bin/ebuild-helpers/emake returns nothing except an RC of 1 % qfile /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild-helpers/emake sys-a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

2013-07-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
n't have anything with portage 2.1 installed to check. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 38: Government organization signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
ld also do this be defining a custom src_setup function in /etc/portage/bashrc - FEATURES="buildpkg" is a lot less hassle unless you are really tight on disk space. -- Neil Bothwick If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
the portage man page, I see you can set up per-package bashrc files. Once you get the first one scripted, you can just copy/symlink it for every package you want a per-emerge package for. The exact implementation is left as an exercise for the reader :) -- Neil Bothwick Always be sincere even if you don't mean it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
for that: > > # emerge -eB world It isn't necessary to recompile everything just to build packages of them, quickpkg will do that. -- Neil Bothwick One difference between a man and a machine is that a machine is quiet when well oiled. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:34:22 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > Where is this 'INSTALL_MASK' option for opting out of systemd > completely documented? man make.conf -- Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed, redefine success. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
man page should, and does, define how a setting works. how it is used for specific packages should be described in the documentation for those packages, or on the wiki. -- Neil Bothwick Eat shit - 50 million flies can't be wrong Use Microsoft . . . . . signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
one through the systemd conversion and made everything is working. Adding extra changes increases the chance of things going wrong, and the number of paces you have to look if they do. -- Neil Bothwick Sir! Romulan warbird decloaki»®õ÷üÁ NO CARRIER signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
let the ebuild install both files and those of use with excessive OCD tendencies, or very limited storage, can use INSTALL_MASK t exclude not only the redundant service files but a lot more besides. -- Neil Bothwick Octal: (n.) a base-8 counting system designed so that one hand may count upon

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-08-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
e.conf. It's not like your computer is going to explode if it fails to mask the service files. -- Neil Bothwick Women live longer than men because they have so many clothes that they wouldn't be caught dead in. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-08-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
ring the way it has grown organically. However that doesn't change my main point , that one could simply try it - which is how I determined that directories worked. -- Neil Bothwick We shall shortly be landing. Please return your stewardess to the upright position. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
7;t that different to udev now, AFAICT, and a recent update forced me to switch back to udev because eudev hadn't been updated (on ~amd64). -- Neil Bothwick Give me ambiguity or give me something else. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
his is caused by a USE flag of one of the dependencies rather than git itself. -- Neil Bothwick I have seen things you lusers would not believe. I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab. I've seen NTU lights glitter in the dark near the Mail Gate. All these thi

Re: [gentoo-user] Where to find the straight dope conf.d/net?

2013-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
; > config_eth0="dhcp" > > you will use the new name: > > config_enp0s3="dhcp" Or add net.ifnames=0 to your kernel boot options to keep the old naming style. -- Neil Bothwick In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
ul functionality. USE="-doc" will greatly reduce that without using INSTALL_MASK or omitting anything important. USE="doc" should only control additional docs, such as needed by devs, although some packages don't respect this. -- Neil Bothwick Math and alcohol don'

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev - more/last questions

2013-08-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
tings for sys-fs/eudev match those for virtual/udev, otherwise sys-eudev won't satisfy its requirements. -- Neil Bothwick Hospitality: making your guests feel like they're at home, even if you wish they were. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
as eudev has been updated and portage is happy again, but it would be a concern if this happened regularly. -- Neil Bothwick PC DOS Error #01: Windows loading, come back tomorrow signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
(the "bleeding edge" version). nothing that complicated, I have nothing in package.{un,}mask for eudev. Something was pulling in virtual/udev-206, which no eudev releases at the time could satisfy (except possibly the version but those are masked by default) so portage needed

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
rge -1a eudev > > Two last questions (first one never got answered, and I'm doing this in > the morning)... > > Do I not have to > > emerge -Ca virtual/udev > > too? No, the virtual is always needed, eudev satisfies it. but you do need to make sure your USE set

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
ould be OK, but portage will let you know if a needed flag is not set. However, if you have a mismatch between the two packages, the virtual may try to pull in udev instead. This happened to me once and it took a while to work out that the issue was caused by USE flags. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 008:

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev - Reboot Necessary?

2013-08-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
it keep > running until I can determine the error and fix it? > > Keep in mind - this is a server, and just runs > postfix/dovecot/apache/mysql... I don't see it being a problem, but in that case, a reboot should clear things. Just make sure you have a package of udev available in case things do go TU. -- Neil Bothwick COMMAND: A suggestion made to a computer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want portage to update Libreoffice......

2013-08-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
ng and come back to it later. 4.1.0.1 is no longer in the portage tree, so 4.0.4.2 is the highest version that fulfils your settings. The solution is to copy the ebuild from /var/db/pkg into your local overlay (you will have to set one up if not already done so) which will keep portage happy

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:36:59 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > I expect it to happen around every new udev release that causes > > slight incompability; the default of the virtual/udev, sys-fs/udev, > > doesn't have to wait for the alternative providers. > > The elegant solution is outlined in my

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:25:33 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-08-11 6:04 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I'm afraid that doesn't solve the problem I had at all, because I'm > > running ~arch. It's as Samuli said, the eudev release lagged behind > > udev,

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
small b) because virtual/udev needed sys-fs/udev and that gave a blocker that uninstalled eudev. -- Neil Bothwick The present never ages. Each moment is like a snowflake, unique, unspoiled, unrepeatable, and can be appreciated in its surprisingness. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] hostapd2.0 not work

2013-08-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
urce browser in the left hand menu on gentoo.org, find the package you want and select the option to show dead files - ebuilds are never removed from CVS. -- Neil Bothwick "One world, one web, one program" -- Microsoft promotional ad "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuehrer" -- Adolf Hitler signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
x I found on the wiki site. I lost conf.d/net too, but there is still a sample file, but it is owned by netifrc, which is now a dependency of openrc. Note to those using USE="-* I_WANT_TO_BREAK_MY_SYSTEM", you will break it when installing the new openrc because you won't get this p

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
e to see if that made a difference). The first one lost it's file, the second one kept it. I've got a couple more t update so I'll see if I can see a pattern. -- Neil Bothwick Too many clicks spoil the browse. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
t? Yes, the file was last modified on Dec 6yh 2012, at which time I had openrc-0.11.7. -- Neil Bothwick What do you have when you have six lawyers buried up to their necks in sand? Not enough sand. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: How hard is it to move separate /usr to / partition? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
the init script and a list of files to include. -- Neil Bothwick Secret hacker rule #11: hackers read manuals. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] how can I pause emerge after it finish running configure or cmake and before it do any compilation?

2013-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
gt; one. If the ebuild supports epatch, you can just create a patch for the makefile and drop it in /etc/portage/patches/cat/pkg If the ebuild doesn't support epatch, you can for it by putting this in /etc/portage/env/cat/pkg post_src_unpack() { cd "${S}" epatch_use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
ork" that will cause problems for some, but if it means "you have to work it out for yourself", well, what's the point of a community if we can't work it out between us? -- Neil Bothwick Death to all fanatics! signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
acceptable for you... but do not expect everyone will accept > your setup. That's a limitation of dracut, not of the initramfs per se. -- Neil Bothwick "What I need is a list of specific unknown problems we will encounter." signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
kernel, using the currently installed versions of the various tools. -- Neil Bothwick This virus requires Microsoft Windows XP signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
d to > be smug :-) Those of us running ssh and zsh can easily out-smug you :) And those adding screen/tmux into the mix can become truly unbearable... -- Neil Bothwick I am Flatulus of Borg. You will be asphixiated. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
sounds like HELL, in so many ways :) -- Neil Bothwick Too many clicks spoil the browse. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
#x27;s also a book about how the book and movie were developed in parallel, interesting reading. -- Neil Bothwick Sacred cows make great hamburgers. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
no bother recompiling anything for which the source has not changed. -- Neil Bothwick Of all the people I've met you're certainly one of them. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
Same here. My .zshrc starts scree if it detects I am logging in via SSH. -- Neil Bothwick Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional!! signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
t. > So, how do/can you *guarantee* that nothing ever gets out of sync? You could add a custom postinst function to /etc/portage that would check whether any of the files included in your initramfs are newer than the initramfs/kernel and send an ewarn if so. -- Neil Bothwick Hello, this is

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:10:26 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > So, how do/can you *guarantee* that nothing ever gets out of sync? > > You could add a custom postinst function to /etc/portage that would > check whether any of the files included in your initramfs are newer than

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
se the initramfs cannot be changed. If I make a change to the initramfs, that's a new kernel and however broken it may be, the old one will still work. The kernel and initramfs are so closely coupled, it just seems sensible to keep them in the same file, since neitherof them is any use without

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
hnological point, or even a political one, it is about being outside of your comfort zone. Using Gentoo is an exercise in expanding your comfort zone. -- Neil Bothwick If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh, wait a minute, he already does. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
how to use it. I was exactly the same with GRUB2, and with init doodahs. now I am not only capable of using and breaking both, but also of having a good go at cleaning up the mess afterwards :) -- Neil Bothwick What did the first man to discover you can get milk from cows think he was doing? - anon. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
ng to something that is broken for you is completely different to avoiding things just because they are new or different. But them I'm the sort of person that's about to install systemd on a test VM just to see what all the fuss is about (I probably won't like it because I'll miss those

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
. Support for separate /usr without > initramfs simply SHOULD NOT be dropped unless/until things like this > (updating lvm) can *never* cause a system to fail to boot like this. This is irrelevant to separate /usr. an initramfs is required if / is on a VM, whether or not /usr is on the same LV. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 23: Sweet sorrow signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
tem. Dracut users could use the same method by parsing the output from lsinitrd. -- Neil Bothwick For every action, there is an equal and opposite malfunction. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
on the same LV. > > Sorry, I don't see where he said that this system was running on a > VM... or did you mean where he had / on an *LVM* partition - which, > again, he did not say he had. Sorry, I meant LV. -- Neil Bothwick 667 - The FAX number of the beast signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
m with the timestamp of the file containing the initramfs. it saves parsing and comparing all those dates, just use the shell's -nt test. The only difference between using it with Dracut or the kernel's initramfs is how you generate the file list. -- Neil Bothwick Press every key to continue. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

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